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MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?

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Whiterangey · 27/06/2018 19:38

Are charities being used by MLMer's to gain CC's, gain new leads, and get rid of stock?

Here is an example of a top Forever Living Business Owner in the UK taking advantage of a charity.

It may look like she is doing something good for the charity but she isn't. The charity will be getting 20% of profits. The business owner, the current UK number 2 in Forever Living, who recently picked up a $420,000 cheque at the Forever Living global rally in Dallas is just getting her Case Credits (CC's) up, and hoping to get new leads to sign up under her.

For everything that she sold Forever Living will have taking the biggest cut, then the business owners upline will have taken a cut, and then the business owner herself. Her profit will be very small and then she was only going to give away to the charity 20% of that. It could be as little as £10, probably a lot less, despite the members of the group spending hundreds of pounds with her. I hope she had the decency to at least add to it. For a 'charity night' where someone who has received multi-million dollars in cheques, and received $420k two months ago you'd expect at least 3 figures to be donated. 20% of her profits from that night will have been ridiculously small.

The charity will be getting even less as you can see she is running special offers which will come out of her profit, reducing the amount available to the charity even more.

As you can see in one of the screenshots someone in the local area of the charity attempted to warn the charity that the business owners motives may not be as charitable as it seems and the business owner wants to take the discussion away from public view, and then deleted the reply instead of giving a reply to show that the poster was wrong. She can't show the poster is wrong as the poster is right so instead chose to make it all go away.

The screenshot of a slide is one used by someone in the business owners downline, who correctly refers to the charity night as 'a launch' which is what it was, it wasn't for charity, it was for the business owner to sell her products and hopefully get some new recruits to her business.

The same business owner last year set up a justgiving page for donations to make up 'Positive Packs' to give to those suffering with breast cancer.

"The cost is 20 pounds which is non profit making and the pack value is worth far more. This will fund a Positive Pack containing Forever Toothgel, Aloe lips, Ever Shield Deodorant, fast break bar and some woolly socks and to every pack I will personally add a heat lotion, an aloe gelly and a herbal blossom tea sachet and an aloe to go."

So the donations will be used by the business owner to buy the items through her own account where she will make a profit from receiving a percentage of what is spent. She will also receive case credits from that. The case credits she received from sending out these Positive Packs will have gone towards her getting the $420k cheque in Dallas in April. So non-profit is not true as the business owner will be profiting in two ways.

The items can also be bought for a LOT less elsewhere, a tube of toothpaste can cost £1 from a supermarket, a stick of deodorant the same. I also wouldn't call toothpaste and deodorant something that anyone pampers themselves with, they are necessities.

The business owner will have used Forever Living products in the bags despite the recipients getting a lot less, and no luxury items, because she benefited herself from doing so. She also would have been able to, and did, use the Positive Packs to advertise Forever Living Products, and at least some of them were given out at a big presentation where the business owner would have been able to present her business opportunity there, some of whom are very vulnerable.

MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
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Spongebobette · 31/07/2018 13:22

Hmm that's a new one. Presumably she wants people posting on their own pages about how fabulous the aloe shite is...stealth marketing? Is this to avoid breaking the FB riles of selling on a personal page?
Wonder what the pay is?

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 31/07/2018 13:47

I think they're having to come up with increasingly desperate measures to get round social media advertisings regs and also the more people are becoming aware of MLMs and saying "No thank you" the more bots need to convince them that the products are good.

You could always message her Spongebobette

Whiterangey · 31/07/2018 14:36

Roomie is on holiday and is busy promoting Forever in every single photo.

She's taken one of those yellow aloe bottles to the beach with her, she appears to have filled it with water. It's so she can talk to people about it. If someone started talking to me on the beach about why she has taken an aloe bottle onto the beach with her to promote her biz i'd back away slowly and not make eye contact.

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Spongebobette · 31/07/2018 15:17

can someone explain what this is supposed to mean?

Think like a bee and fly anyway

BangingOn · 31/07/2018 15:27

Messiah’s baby has arrived. I wonder how long until we see the first TS Life photo featuring a newborn?

Norma27 · 31/07/2018 15:31

Sponge I know yawn uses that quote. I think it is because a bee shouldn’t be able to fly because of its heavy body and light wings. Something like that anyway.
Bots then use it to say you can do anything. Don’t listen to negferrets! ie you can succeed in the shitfest that is mlm!

BangingOn · 31/07/2018 15:32

Think like a bee and fly anyway

Isn’t there something about how bees shouldn’t be able to fly from a law of physics perspective, but somehow they do?

SSDGM · 31/07/2018 15:49

I may possibly have the details for a zoom call tonight on TS Life. 😃

BangingOn · 31/07/2018 15:51

Oooooh!

Spongebobette · 31/07/2018 15:54

Yes I know about bees not being aerodynamic but the quote does not make sense to me.

ArbunneHun · 31/07/2018 15:56

I think MrsStick’s message is just another #joinmyteamhun lure in disguise. She won’t be paying: they’ll sign up and pay her.

That’s the way of the pyramid

Norma27 · 31/07/2018 16:51

Sponge I think if a bee was told it couldn’t fly then it wouldn’t unless it ignored those negferrets and tried anyway.

BangingOn · 31/07/2018 17:21

Bees can defy the laws of gravity with sheer force of will (and MLM magic).

Happypuppy · 31/07/2018 17:49

Turkey is dirt cheap to go to these days anyway. I wouldn’t be aspiring to it.

cozietoesie · 31/07/2018 18:20

You said it, Arbunne. Grin. (They'll end up signing up.)

IdontunderstandPicasso · 31/07/2018 19:00

One of my most sensible friends has announced that she will be doing unique make up. I text her telling her to be very careful etc and she says it’s just a way of making some extra money now she is part time... have done some further reading (an ex bot did a fabulous blog) and I am bloody alarmed! I’ve suddenly been added to her make up Facebook group Hmm and there’s lots of cringe worthy posts. I thought sensible people being converted was some kind of urban myth but no! My lovely, very sensible friend, is now spouting shit about “can’t wait to play with all my new make up”...I’ve seen her wear mascara and that is it! Shock Someone please tell me that some people give it up nearly straight away...

cozietoesie · 31/07/2018 19:08

They do - sadly not all, though. She'll have a vulnerability that you haven't clocked, I bet.

IdontunderstandPicasso · 31/07/2018 19:19

She has a 6month old baby...oh dear. Everything on that blog is coming true on her Facebook. Tempted to send her a link to the blog but to be honest I’m not sure it would help

Spongebobette · 31/07/2018 19:30

Oh dear she might not react well, she is probably hoping it all means she can stay at home with her baby. Those BASTARD MLMs prey on new mums. I know a Younique bot, she spends an unbelievable amount on the makeup, there is no way at all she's made any money. She is the customer.

Norma27 · 31/07/2018 19:43

Oh no! Yawn is about to upcycle again!!

cozietoesie · 31/07/2018 20:36

How old is your friendship, Idont? And would you have said it was on a sound footing?

BSintolerant · 31/07/2018 21:41

Just when you think that MLM bots can't sink any lower ...

One of the posters on this thread (linked below) describes the antics of a bot who went on a recruitment drive at a funeral.

No words ...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3320818-to-hate-mlms-with-a-passion?watched=1&msgid=79874446#79874446

cozietoesie · 31/07/2018 21:51

Recruiting at a funeral............

BSintolerant · 31/07/2018 21:55

I know. There's got to be a special place in hell for bots who recruit at funerals. When the cheeky, thoughtless fuckers get down there they'll fight their way through the flames and sulphur to recruit Mr Lucifer himself.

SSDGM · 31/07/2018 21:57

Eek! Sounds like one of the posters on that thread is related to Wig’n’Sleaze!!