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MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?

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Whiterangey · 27/06/2018 19:38

Are charities being used by MLMer's to gain CC's, gain new leads, and get rid of stock?

Here is an example of a top Forever Living Business Owner in the UK taking advantage of a charity.

It may look like she is doing something good for the charity but she isn't. The charity will be getting 20% of profits. The business owner, the current UK number 2 in Forever Living, who recently picked up a $420,000 cheque at the Forever Living global rally in Dallas is just getting her Case Credits (CC's) up, and hoping to get new leads to sign up under her.

For everything that she sold Forever Living will have taking the biggest cut, then the business owners upline will have taken a cut, and then the business owner herself. Her profit will be very small and then she was only going to give away to the charity 20% of that. It could be as little as £10, probably a lot less, despite the members of the group spending hundreds of pounds with her. I hope she had the decency to at least add to it. For a 'charity night' where someone who has received multi-million dollars in cheques, and received $420k two months ago you'd expect at least 3 figures to be donated. 20% of her profits from that night will have been ridiculously small.

The charity will be getting even less as you can see she is running special offers which will come out of her profit, reducing the amount available to the charity even more.

As you can see in one of the screenshots someone in the local area of the charity attempted to warn the charity that the business owners motives may not be as charitable as it seems and the business owner wants to take the discussion away from public view, and then deleted the reply instead of giving a reply to show that the poster was wrong. She can't show the poster is wrong as the poster is right so instead chose to make it all go away.

The screenshot of a slide is one used by someone in the business owners downline, who correctly refers to the charity night as 'a launch' which is what it was, it wasn't for charity, it was for the business owner to sell her products and hopefully get some new recruits to her business.

The same business owner last year set up a justgiving page for donations to make up 'Positive Packs' to give to those suffering with breast cancer.

"The cost is 20 pounds which is non profit making and the pack value is worth far more. This will fund a Positive Pack containing Forever Toothgel, Aloe lips, Ever Shield Deodorant, fast break bar and some woolly socks and to every pack I will personally add a heat lotion, an aloe gelly and a herbal blossom tea sachet and an aloe to go."

So the donations will be used by the business owner to buy the items through her own account where she will make a profit from receiving a percentage of what is spent. She will also receive case credits from that. The case credits she received from sending out these Positive Packs will have gone towards her getting the $420k cheque in Dallas in April. So non-profit is not true as the business owner will be profiting in two ways.

The items can also be bought for a LOT less elsewhere, a tube of toothpaste can cost £1 from a supermarket, a stick of deodorant the same. I also wouldn't call toothpaste and deodorant something that anyone pampers themselves with, they are necessities.

The business owner will have used Forever Living products in the bags despite the recipients getting a lot less, and no luxury items, because she benefited herself from doing so. She also would have been able to, and did, use the Positive Packs to advertise Forever Living Products, and at least some of them were given out at a big presentation where the business owner would have been able to present her business opportunity there, some of whom are very vulnerable.

MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
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BangingOn · 27/07/2018 17:26

FFS I’ve been to that spa a few times, would not be happy bumping into a FL rabble on my spa day.

Willowsauntie · 27/07/2018 17:53

@ohmygodtheykilledkenny

I'm sure there's a local explanation. Yawn's financial freedom means she wouldn't need to travel off peak in term time.

TrippleFlappyDiamondSparrow · 27/07/2018 19:36

For anybody that watched Orange Is The New Black. You will giggle. I won't give the storyline away but there is a brilloant Herbalife rip off, and they nail the MLM Cliche!

Norma27 · 28/07/2018 10:47

I’m going to have to start watching OITNB now so I can see this!

Leliana · 28/07/2018 11:02

Can I join the thread? I've just pissed an MLM bot off so badly she has blocked and defriended me on Facebook! She used to be a Jamberry bot, and has recently joined Younique (presumably as Jamberry is no more). She posted a Younique plug on her timeline last night, and when I left a link to Elle Beau's blog beneath it, she deleted my comment and sent me a condescending PM about how much she lurves her business because it allows her to be at home with her children. I pointed out that money she loses doing MLMs is money she can't spend on her children, and she sent me a furious reply and has flounced off and blocked me 😂😂😂

TrippleFlappyDiamondSparrow · 28/07/2018 11:19

@norma - Orange is the new black is incredible. You will not regret it. The Herbalife rip off is on the new series 6, i fully recommend a binge watch from series 1 though :)

Tizzlebizzle · 28/07/2018 11:41

@leiliana welcome! Was she a friend? It's hard to say something when someone is in the fug as they just aren't receptive to the facts. They are being lovebombed and brainwashed by other bots at that stage. Will you feel the loss of her friendship? If you can contact her any other way you could still be there when she finally sees the light.

cozietoesie · 28/07/2018 12:36

She blocked and defriended you?

RESULT. Grin

Leliana · 28/07/2018 13:06

She wasn't a friend - we were at university together, but she dropped out after the first year and got married young then had two children. I presume her desire to be a SAHM, but earning money, is why she is so susceptible to MLM. I won't miss her, and it's taken a lot of restraint not to challenge her MLM bullshit before now.

cozietoesie · 28/07/2018 13:13

Bet you you'll end like an itch that she has to scratch. This isn't the last you'll hear from her.Wink

Leliana · 28/07/2018 13:23

Hilariously, her parting shot to me was that she has no idea why I think I'm qualified to comment on her business. She blocked me before I could reply pointing out that myself and my colleagues jointly own a business with a seven figure annual turnover Grin

sshuga · 28/07/2018 13:44

@Leliana But your business experience has nothing to do with MLM, MLM is a new business model. It doesn’t matter how smart you are or how well you are doing in your business because MLM is a revolutionary new way of marketing, it’s not like anything else. And of course it’s much better than anything else.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 28/07/2018 15:03

I remember my botted OH telling my mate he understood nothing about business when he had heard out her FLP business model and described it as pyramid selling.

What does he know, he only has an MBA, owns three successful businesses and is the only self-made multi-millionaire we know...

She also reckoned he knew nothing about "marketing" as he didn't plaster pictures of his houses, holidays & vintage cars all over an open FB account.

StickyProblem · 28/07/2018 15:07

Could someone pm me the bot names please? Am fascinated and also appalled. A former colleague of mine is in Herbalife, I'm about to finally bite back as I just can't stomach one more #theuniversehasyourback post. It doesn't. It just doesn't.

Leliana · 28/07/2018 18:22

Indeed. For what it's worth, I don't shy away from posting photos of meals out or parties on Facebook, but I'm not stupid enough to post pictures of my house or car (which is a banger anyway) publicly! It amazes me people do so - surely it makes them targets of crime?!

ArbunneHun · 28/07/2018 20:07

‘Lifestyle marketing’ my darlings. If you make your home/holidays/kitchen/car/meetings with prosecco look attractive enough AND tell everyone that your shitty MLM has paid for it all, people will want to join your team... and if enough people do, then maybe your shitty MLM actually WILL start paying for your lifestyle...

Spongebobette · 29/07/2018 09:36

On her Instagram Yawn describes herself as a ‘Lifestyle Lover’

Whatever that means 🙄

moose23ishungry · 29/07/2018 11:13

"Lifestyle lover"=vacuous and materialistic

Spongebobette · 29/07/2018 11:59

Ha yes

I find it really sad when bots’ kids are encouraged to do goal boards and they are covered with materialistic things (plus wanting to be a model)

What sort of example are these parents setting???

CodLiverOil556 · 29/07/2018 12:17

@Spongebobette they're setting them up to fail which is a real shame as these kids will think/be told they didn't work hard enough at it

Spongebobette · 29/07/2018 12:29

Yawn even has her daughter believing in the Law of Attraction
Yuk

Whiterangey · 29/07/2018 13:36

They are waiting until their children reach 18 so they can bring them into their downline . Yawn has already mentioned her daughter wants to join.

Of course their children will lose money but they will make money off their children because they don't care.

That is only if their MLM is still around then.

They are grooming their children to become bots.

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Leliana · 29/07/2018 14:41

@whiterangey The idea of children being brought up in MLM makes me feel so sad - how will they ever learn to appraise evidence critically and make sound business decisions if the adults around them aren't?

Spongebobette · 29/07/2018 14:59

It’s like being brought up in a cult.

Whiterangey · 29/07/2018 17:08

It IS being brought up in a cult.

Yawn has her daughter telling her friends all about it, I guess in the hope they will tell their parents who will then sign up.

The thought of a child doing that is rather upsetting.

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