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MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?

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Whiterangey · 27/06/2018 19:38

Are charities being used by MLMer's to gain CC's, gain new leads, and get rid of stock?

Here is an example of a top Forever Living Business Owner in the UK taking advantage of a charity.

It may look like she is doing something good for the charity but she isn't. The charity will be getting 20% of profits. The business owner, the current UK number 2 in Forever Living, who recently picked up a $420,000 cheque at the Forever Living global rally in Dallas is just getting her Case Credits (CC's) up, and hoping to get new leads to sign up under her.

For everything that she sold Forever Living will have taking the biggest cut, then the business owners upline will have taken a cut, and then the business owner herself. Her profit will be very small and then she was only going to give away to the charity 20% of that. It could be as little as £10, probably a lot less, despite the members of the group spending hundreds of pounds with her. I hope she had the decency to at least add to it. For a 'charity night' where someone who has received multi-million dollars in cheques, and received $420k two months ago you'd expect at least 3 figures to be donated. 20% of her profits from that night will have been ridiculously small.

The charity will be getting even less as you can see she is running special offers which will come out of her profit, reducing the amount available to the charity even more.

As you can see in one of the screenshots someone in the local area of the charity attempted to warn the charity that the business owners motives may not be as charitable as it seems and the business owner wants to take the discussion away from public view, and then deleted the reply instead of giving a reply to show that the poster was wrong. She can't show the poster is wrong as the poster is right so instead chose to make it all go away.

The screenshot of a slide is one used by someone in the business owners downline, who correctly refers to the charity night as 'a launch' which is what it was, it wasn't for charity, it was for the business owner to sell her products and hopefully get some new recruits to her business.

The same business owner last year set up a justgiving page for donations to make up 'Positive Packs' to give to those suffering with breast cancer.

"The cost is 20 pounds which is non profit making and the pack value is worth far more. This will fund a Positive Pack containing Forever Toothgel, Aloe lips, Ever Shield Deodorant, fast break bar and some woolly socks and to every pack I will personally add a heat lotion, an aloe gelly and a herbal blossom tea sachet and an aloe to go."

So the donations will be used by the business owner to buy the items through her own account where she will make a profit from receiving a percentage of what is spent. She will also receive case credits from that. The case credits she received from sending out these Positive Packs will have gone towards her getting the $420k cheque in Dallas in April. So non-profit is not true as the business owner will be profiting in two ways.

The items can also be bought for a LOT less elsewhere, a tube of toothpaste can cost £1 from a supermarket, a stick of deodorant the same. I also wouldn't call toothpaste and deodorant something that anyone pampers themselves with, they are necessities.

The business owner will have used Forever Living products in the bags despite the recipients getting a lot less, and no luxury items, because she benefited herself from doing so. She also would have been able to, and did, use the Positive Packs to advertise Forever Living Products, and at least some of them were given out at a big presentation where the business owner would have been able to present her business opportunity there, some of whom are very vulnerable.

MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
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Norma27 · 24/07/2018 11:07

Yes yawn, I would, be so, happy, too if I , heard my daughter, explaining forever shite, to, her friends

Just having a go at chucking in a couple of handful of commas too and seeing where they land in that statement!

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 24/07/2018 12:00

Dear Yawn...

MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
cozietoesie · 24/07/2018 12:26
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Paddy1234 · 24/07/2018 20:25

I have decided to branch into global leadership and mentoring coaching. My fb posts will be posting an inspirational quote each day that I have downloaded off the internet. I hope you will support me in my future endeavour. There is no 'i' in team 😏

Spongebobette · 24/07/2018 20:40

Go for it, hun, you’ll, smash it!

I am crying like a baby here, I feel so blessed to be in your team

Eddierussett · 24/07/2018 21:27

Urgh, I haven't posted in ages but a certain FL bot now a women empowering global business mentor coach with a very high level of education has really wound me up. She is advocating taking a leap (ie: going into debt) on the grounds that you just have trust yourself and the universe to catch you. Of course the story she tells from her life reveals she had some financial safety nets that lots aren't so lucky to have...

Business can be risky and people do go bankrupt on taking a chance but there's a difference between a) taking a calculated risk on your business ie investing everything in it and b) blowing all your money on a lifestyle and hoping you'll get the business to support it because 'the universe'. I hate that all these MLM 'mentors' seem to think it is ok to encourage people to do the latter. Angry

ArbunneHun · 24/07/2018 21:35

It’s very very easy to persuade others to spend - sorry! - “invest”, when you as their upline will directly financially benefit from them doing so. That’s why MLM is so warped: your upline/Manager/whoever recruited you has a personal interest in persuading you to spend money, whether you have it or you don’t.

You spend, they profit. How can you ever trust them?

Spongebobette · 24/07/2018 21:58

‘You have to leap and the net will appear’

Bloody hell, worst advice ever

PoohBear219 · 24/07/2018 23:42

Been watching these threads with a morbid interest after seeing a friend - highly paid, great job (which she has now left) - sucked in. I am lucky and have smart parents who laugh about the Amway stuff. They had very nice, very highly-educated people friends trying to sucker them in 30 years ago.

So many comments to make but smoke and mirrors is the big one …

The flash lifestyles of leased cars, rented houses, Louboutins and LV handbags (bad investments) is fascinating. Look at the big players and they all wear costume jewellery. I know it's horribly materialistic but the lack of watches stands out to me. The showy 30 somethings I know who are really earning £100K plus all have a decent timepiece as do most people in the top earning bracket.

moose23ishungry · 25/07/2018 05:44

@Eddierussett yep saw that one too.

"I'm so clever, spent all my savings on a car, then took out a rental while unemployed. You should do the same, just make sure your mum and Dad will pay your default!"

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 25/07/2018 09:32

Wig and Sleaze are outraged about a crypto-Ponzi and are busy talking about reporting them to whomever will listen.
Thank goodness their current project isn't an MLM ponzi as well.....oh.

Eddierussett · 25/07/2018 10:01

I just can't get my head around whether bots like the one I mentioned above just don't understand that not everyone has their advantages and therefore risk losing a lot more (which is naïve) or whether they know and don't care (which is verging on evil)

Spongebobette · 25/07/2018 12:08

yes, airily saying you had to move in with mum and dad because you'd spent all your money on a car and couldn't afford your own place... meaning mum and dad were subsidising you..... as the Americans would say, CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE!

9dartfinish · 25/07/2018 14:10

@Eddierussett
I take the stance that the majority are victims but some stay involved so long that the predatory behaviour almost becomes normal to them and can't see the appalling ethics involved in MLM recruitment techniques such as targeting SAHM's and Uni students or blatantly goading people into debt to chase a dream that is not going to materialise.

fromdownwest · 25/07/2018 15:17

I see that one of the FL top figures has managed to get a place as a guest speaker in a big networking event with Alan Sugar. She will be sharing the stage with genuine business people. Few questions:

  • How did she manage to do this
  • Will people see through her and the 'business' that she runs
  • Or will people be genuinely interested in her work

It is quite different preaching to the converted day in day out, preaching to genuine SME's will be interesting.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 25/07/2018 15:34

So six generations ago, were the family of Wig 'n' Sleazes CEO mere bathtubs?

Norma27 · 25/07/2018 15:59

Fantastic stealth boast by castle about how much she is spending on a last minute holiday.
Do jog on dear. Hope you sleep well there knowing how many lives you have ruined/helped to ruin to get you there.

Norma27 · 25/07/2018 16:01

Poor bloodsucker. Thieves got in the back of her car on holibobs and stole everything. If it was on the back seat, and/or her windows were left open I hope insurers refuse to pay out.
My heart bleeds for her!

Norma27 · 25/07/2018 16:03

Funny thing is she is saying she hopes karma gets them. I detest thieves, but maybe this is karma getting its own back on her!

Whiterangey · 25/07/2018 20:29

She could have been followed and targeted after bragging about how wealthy she is and how much stuff she has while trying to sign someone up. Now THAT would be karma.

They spend their lives telling everyone how wealthy they are and how much stuff they have. It's really not surprising thieves will go after them.

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rainbowfudgee · 25/07/2018 20:54

Didn't Alan Sugar endorse Tropic skincare?

Sean1984 · 25/07/2018 21:22

Surly the thieves didnt steal anything,they opended the car booth and it was full of aloe vera bottles and they said what a nut and ran a mile !!!!!

SSDGM · 25/07/2018 21:41

I’ve added up the amount of flights I will have taken for business and pleasure by the end of this year. It’s at least 21. By Sleaze’s Standards I must be a billionaire!

Bradford doesn’t see why teachers should get presents since they choose to do that job and get paid for it. Says the woman who started a go fund me for a family holiday.

Broke has started deleting posts again. Is he about to jump to another complete disaster amazing company?

An Inteletravel Bot has totally buggered up a customer’s holiday by being completely undertrained. I had this sent to me...

Hi SSDGM... just heard that clients who travelled to Cuba with did not have a visa (were not advised they needed one) when they arrived at the hotel the booking was not paid for, he had to pay again. Inteletravel said they must have given a digit wrong in cc number (yeah right) Client was told he would be reimbursed by Intel but they would withhold £400 of it??? To date he has had no money back (he travelled in May. xx

Obvs, there no ABTA comeback on this. No mediation, no way of prosecuting. Serious case of Buyer Beware if anything chooses to use them.

cozietoesie · 25/07/2018 22:13

Out of interest, why did they 'withhold' £400.00?

cozietoesie · 25/07/2018 22:14

Sorry - propose withholding. (I see he's had nothing back.)

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