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MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?

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Whiterangey · 27/06/2018 19:38

Are charities being used by MLMer's to gain CC's, gain new leads, and get rid of stock?

Here is an example of a top Forever Living Business Owner in the UK taking advantage of a charity.

It may look like she is doing something good for the charity but she isn't. The charity will be getting 20% of profits. The business owner, the current UK number 2 in Forever Living, who recently picked up a $420,000 cheque at the Forever Living global rally in Dallas is just getting her Case Credits (CC's) up, and hoping to get new leads to sign up under her.

For everything that she sold Forever Living will have taking the biggest cut, then the business owners upline will have taken a cut, and then the business owner herself. Her profit will be very small and then she was only going to give away to the charity 20% of that. It could be as little as £10, probably a lot less, despite the members of the group spending hundreds of pounds with her. I hope she had the decency to at least add to it. For a 'charity night' where someone who has received multi-million dollars in cheques, and received $420k two months ago you'd expect at least 3 figures to be donated. 20% of her profits from that night will have been ridiculously small.

The charity will be getting even less as you can see she is running special offers which will come out of her profit, reducing the amount available to the charity even more.

As you can see in one of the screenshots someone in the local area of the charity attempted to warn the charity that the business owners motives may not be as charitable as it seems and the business owner wants to take the discussion away from public view, and then deleted the reply instead of giving a reply to show that the poster was wrong. She can't show the poster is wrong as the poster is right so instead chose to make it all go away.

The screenshot of a slide is one used by someone in the business owners downline, who correctly refers to the charity night as 'a launch' which is what it was, it wasn't for charity, it was for the business owner to sell her products and hopefully get some new recruits to her business.

The same business owner last year set up a justgiving page for donations to make up 'Positive Packs' to give to those suffering with breast cancer.

"The cost is 20 pounds which is non profit making and the pack value is worth far more. This will fund a Positive Pack containing Forever Toothgel, Aloe lips, Ever Shield Deodorant, fast break bar and some woolly socks and to every pack I will personally add a heat lotion, an aloe gelly and a herbal blossom tea sachet and an aloe to go."

So the donations will be used by the business owner to buy the items through her own account where she will make a profit from receiving a percentage of what is spent. She will also receive case credits from that. The case credits she received from sending out these Positive Packs will have gone towards her getting the $420k cheque in Dallas in April. So non-profit is not true as the business owner will be profiting in two ways.

The items can also be bought for a LOT less elsewhere, a tube of toothpaste can cost £1 from a supermarket, a stick of deodorant the same. I also wouldn't call toothpaste and deodorant something that anyone pampers themselves with, they are necessities.

The business owner will have used Forever Living products in the bags despite the recipients getting a lot less, and no luxury items, because she benefited herself from doing so. She also would have been able to, and did, use the Positive Packs to advertise Forever Living Products, and at least some of them were given out at a big presentation where the business owner would have been able to present her business opportunity there, some of whom are very vulnerable.

MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
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Spongebobette · 22/07/2018 22:16

Yeah how many C9s has she done in that time. Absolute waste of money.

But, the, commas will no one think, of the commas?? #commaabuse

Sean1984 · 23/07/2018 00:44

Great, theres gym wear now, so we all spot bots miles off and run a mile,like if you see them dragging the yellow suitcase thru the airport ...ekkkkkkk

MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
moose23ishungry · 23/07/2018 08:48

Shill bot regales a wow-is-me fairy tale of their rise from dire straits to top bot, points out how skinny they were before they did 6 c9s per year for nine years.

Hopeful Bot: "this will be me one day!" (Because everyone wants to do endless c9s to gain weight)

Shill bot: "oh hopeful bot, you will, just touch your business every day!"

GrinWink

moose23ishungry · 23/07/2018 08:49

@Sean1984 I saw a guy kitted out in the FIT wear one day at Bank station in London, it was peak hour so I wonder if he was trying to attract new boys with his shiny kit. he looked like a proper manhun

moose23ishungry · 23/07/2018 10:19

I meant BOTS not BOYS

Costacoffeeplease · 23/07/2018 10:28

I have my first mlm in fb, sculpt movement? I haven’t heard of it before

8misskitty8 · 23/07/2018 11:05

Well my friend who is a forever bot has just reposted a post from someone in her ‘team’ which is about their deodorant .
It has the usual guff about non stickyness etc but the bit that has now given me the rage is they are claiming it ‘helps to prevent breast cancer ‘
Wtf. I’m going to report it to Facebook . Sorely tempted to also comment on it too.

GoldenKelpie · 23/07/2018 12:13

Costa a google of "sculpt movement" brings up this website sculptmovement.com/ which doesn't really tell me exactly what they sell, but seems to be supplements that look a lot like those we see in juiceplus. I couldn't find a "terms and conditions" link either which is strange.

To get more information I would have to fill in a form. Not going to do that, obviously. This MLM seems to originate in Ireland, I watched the video (about 8 minutes) which featured Irish women talking excitedly and adoringly about the usual MLM 'benefits' of belonging . At this point you could easily play MLM bingo and get a full house.

Having said that, they spoke very little about exactly HOW the MLM works in practice, I guess we are supposed to be inspired to ask for more information in order to get snagged in.

If anyone can find me the terms and conditions, please do post a link here so I can have a look and analyse the nuts and bolts.

GoldenKelpie · 23/07/2018 12:21

Hmm, a brief look on fb and I have found a page that seems to link juiceplus with sculpt movement, again in Ireland.

GoldenKelpie · 23/07/2018 12:38

Interesting, it does seem that the couple who started Sculpt Movement in Ireland did it in conjunction with juiceplus. I found another website here www.sculptyourlife.ie/ which gives more details than the other website I posted earlier. There is no mention of juiceplus on the first website I posted, but then again there was very little factual information anyway. All very vague.

Is it juiceplus changing its name?

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 23/07/2018 12:47

Roomie is obviously going to spend her holiday trying to recruit and expand her business in Turkey looking at her packing photo.

FFS do they not get it?! Holidays are a holiday from work and day to day routine, not an opportunity to work a bit more.

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 23/07/2018 12:54

Salon's BFF made a big thing last year of her husband giving up work because her bizniz was doing so well.
She's since gone back to working in her own salon, and is now asking people to 'like' her H's new handyman company page on FB.
I guess that travel agency MLM isn't working out quite the way she expected then.

Spongebobette · 23/07/2018 12:58

Roomie is the sort of person I'd run a mile from on holiday.

Costacoffeeplease · 23/07/2018 13:53

It would make sense if it’s juice plus as a year or so ago she was talking about giving her children juice plus and how great their skin, hair, nails were....

Afishblowingbubbles · 23/07/2018 15:46

8misskitty8, that's disgusting to say the deodorant helps prevent breast Cancer. When my family member was in FL, I tried the deodorant, I have to admit it smelt quite nice and at £6 a bar thought I would give it a go. (This is before I know what I know now). It is crap, we had a hot summer and I stunk of B.O half way through the day. I also had sweat marks. Trying not to be too gross but if it was good I would say so. My Mother-in- Law said the same thing too. Told my family member and to be fair she did agree with me, but was still selling it to other people.

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 23/07/2018 16:14

For some reason they seem to think that aluminium in deodorant causes cancer. It's a complete load of crap. Aluminium is naturally found in the body and is in all sorts of things we ingest. It's just typical bot scaremongering.

8misskitty8 · 23/07/2018 17:36

I’ve had to stop myself commenting on the post as I know if I do my friendship with her will be over.

She didn’t talk to me for 6 months after I told her I couldn’t use forever products due to the parabans in some of the products. (Is true, I do try and avoid them in beauty’s products due to the question mark over their links to health problems. ) It would have been longer if I had told her the other reason, namely the owner gives money to ant-gay demonstrations etc. In America.

DoraExplorer99 · 23/07/2018 18:24

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

8misskitty8 · 23/07/2018 19:34

@DoraExplorer99 I have tried to report it but the only option that I can find on the post is ‘give feedback on post’ which doesn’t allow you to comment to Facebook what the issue about the post is.

8misskitty8 · 23/07/2018 21:11

Well I commented on the original post which was promptly deleted !
That bot then friendship requested me. I ignored it.
But a small victory. She’s left the deodorant post up but she took out the bit about it preventing breast cancer.

fitgirl26 · 23/07/2018 22:16

So Wig 'n Sleaze have made £55,000 from a £50 investment and are earning £2,600 a day plus they are on track to make £4 million by the end of the year. That's very believable...

ArbunneHun · 23/07/2018 22:50

I for one totally believe Wig ‘n’ Sleaze. After all, they were going to be millionaires last year from their 3D printing & crypto ponzi, so why should this year’s blatant scam be any different?

Sean1984 · 23/07/2018 23:00

I love when bots say that,their “on track” to make XXX, and never seems to happen. Its like saying I play the Euromillions lotto and I'm on track in the future to win 160 million, but in the mean time I'm gona tell as many strangers and people i dont know all about my potential win, and post it all over my facebook because i want all you strangers to be part of it and oh ya ,by the way, you just have to give me some money to be part of it.... such utter shit. lets be honest ,if u were making 2k a day,you wouldn't be sharing it with strangers,with every tom dick and harry ,you would keep it to yourself, unless there was a reason for sharing it,which of course there is,to get others to give you money.

ArbunneHun · 24/07/2018 07:16

It’s also worth remembering that in those crypto Ponzi schemes, whatever money they do make is money effectively stolen from people underneath them.

Every single penny is taken from someone else.

I couldn’t live with myself if that were how I made money.

Spongebobette · 24/07/2018 10:46

@Sean1984 yes you are so right, and have you also seen the 'putting plans in place for a 2k a month income' etc

you can 'plan' all you like with your upline, dear bot, but you'll need to recruit more bots or shift a lot of aloe gloop to make that much.

And if 'planning' means making lists of all your friends, approaching everyone you see with your shitty flier or paying for a stall at the local mums and tots fete..... this is not a business plan!

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