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MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?

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Whiterangey · 27/06/2018 19:38

Are charities being used by MLMer's to gain CC's, gain new leads, and get rid of stock?

Here is an example of a top Forever Living Business Owner in the UK taking advantage of a charity.

It may look like she is doing something good for the charity but she isn't. The charity will be getting 20% of profits. The business owner, the current UK number 2 in Forever Living, who recently picked up a $420,000 cheque at the Forever Living global rally in Dallas is just getting her Case Credits (CC's) up, and hoping to get new leads to sign up under her.

For everything that she sold Forever Living will have taking the biggest cut, then the business owners upline will have taken a cut, and then the business owner herself. Her profit will be very small and then she was only going to give away to the charity 20% of that. It could be as little as £10, probably a lot less, despite the members of the group spending hundreds of pounds with her. I hope she had the decency to at least add to it. For a 'charity night' where someone who has received multi-million dollars in cheques, and received $420k two months ago you'd expect at least 3 figures to be donated. 20% of her profits from that night will have been ridiculously small.

The charity will be getting even less as you can see she is running special offers which will come out of her profit, reducing the amount available to the charity even more.

As you can see in one of the screenshots someone in the local area of the charity attempted to warn the charity that the business owners motives may not be as charitable as it seems and the business owner wants to take the discussion away from public view, and then deleted the reply instead of giving a reply to show that the poster was wrong. She can't show the poster is wrong as the poster is right so instead chose to make it all go away.

The screenshot of a slide is one used by someone in the business owners downline, who correctly refers to the charity night as 'a launch' which is what it was, it wasn't for charity, it was for the business owner to sell her products and hopefully get some new recruits to her business.

The same business owner last year set up a justgiving page for donations to make up 'Positive Packs' to give to those suffering with breast cancer.

"The cost is 20 pounds which is non profit making and the pack value is worth far more. This will fund a Positive Pack containing Forever Toothgel, Aloe lips, Ever Shield Deodorant, fast break bar and some woolly socks and to every pack I will personally add a heat lotion, an aloe gelly and a herbal blossom tea sachet and an aloe to go."

So the donations will be used by the business owner to buy the items through her own account where she will make a profit from receiving a percentage of what is spent. She will also receive case credits from that. The case credits she received from sending out these Positive Packs will have gone towards her getting the $420k cheque in Dallas in April. So non-profit is not true as the business owner will be profiting in two ways.

The items can also be bought for a LOT less elsewhere, a tube of toothpaste can cost £1 from a supermarket, a stick of deodorant the same. I also wouldn't call toothpaste and deodorant something that anyone pampers themselves with, they are necessities.

The business owner will have used Forever Living products in the bags despite the recipients getting a lot less, and no luxury items, because she benefited herself from doing so. She also would have been able to, and did, use the Positive Packs to advertise Forever Living Products, and at least some of them were given out at a big presentation where the business owner would have been able to present her business opportunity there, some of whom are very vulnerable.

MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
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OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 15/07/2018 08:50

As predicted Roomie's rant about the noise from the pub next door has been removed.

Maranello4 · 15/07/2018 09:10

I've been following with interest, particularly as I have a juicebot in my fb group...and have read one of the FL blogs about its annual profits declining every year, not to mention the proportion of people who are appointed as 'managers'.

How do those of us who are new to the thread work out who these people are? Apologies if this was covered in an earlier thread.

Orchardgreen · 15/07/2018 09:17

Now Yawn is pouncing on poor Hungarian women who probably are those who can least afford to lose money.
She has no morals.
I’ve reported her hate comment to FB

Spongebobette · 15/07/2018 09:30

She’s absolutely foul

CodLiverOil556 · 15/07/2018 09:31

Is that comment not hate speech? Can it be reported to the police? She's a hateful, vile creature and I hope FL dumps her from a great height...if you're reading this, yawn, your comeuppance is on its way and I hope it fucks you royally

KevinTheYuccaPlant · 15/07/2018 09:50

Hi guys - got someone offering to hold a candle-selling event at our village hall and donate all her profits to hall funds. I'm smelling MLM all over it. Should we:

(a) let her do it
(b) charge the normal hall hire fee and say she can keep her profits
(c) refuse the booking?

I'm currently leaning towards (b), but need to discuss with the rest of the committee, which will have to start with an explanation of what an MLM is. Does anyone know who the candle MLMs are in the UK? I can only find lists of US ones online. Scentsy was quite popular in my area for a while, but seems to have died a death, and that's oils, I think, rather than candles.

Norma27 · 15/07/2018 09:53

I would have said scentsy.
Personally, if mlm then I would refuse.

RelativePitch · 15/07/2018 10:31

Someone called out Roomie doing a C9 so soon after her last one. Another anti-MLM hero out there!

SSDGM · 15/07/2018 11:38

I’ve reported the “face” comment for hate speech against people with disabilities. I suggest a lot of you do the same.

Also her “10 rules” post she’s just made? I repeat my comment about Broke. Is she taking the fucking piss? Integrity??

fitgirl26 · 15/07/2018 11:38

Jeez - I remember kids at my school pulling that face at you, making the noise and saying you were "Bexley" which was the name of a local mental hospital. This was at primary school in the 70s. Attitudes have moved on a bit then or so I thought. As someone who works for a disabled children's charity I'm actually quite a shocked that someone with her following would have that comment on her page.

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 15/07/2018 11:55

Surely one of her friends or followers would/should have said something to her, either publicly on the post or privately via messenger?

Spongebobette · 15/07/2018 12:08

Oh the charming persona slips when questioned or criticised, I’ve tried it on Twitter.
Roomie’s response to the question about yet another C9 is in the same vein as the replies I got from Yawn, instant defensive/ aggressive

willdoitinaminute · 15/07/2018 12:29

Just read about India Hicks new business venture, don’t think it’s been launched over here but it is an MLM. You can become an ambassador etcetc usual bullshit.
Easy to find just google India Hicks. She had a write up in the Telegraph but the business barely got a mention.

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 15/07/2018 13:29

Yawn has just commented on her BFF's page that she (BFF) had the best Roomie for the Dallas trip.

Is that a dig at her Roomie who she no longer appears to have anything to do with I wonder?

Whiterangey · 15/07/2018 13:41

Why does Roomie keep deleting her pub noise rants?

Why did she choose to move next to a pub with a garden without realising there will be some noise, especially in summer.

I am rather shocked that Yawn still has that hate up on her page, I really thought she would have deleted. Forever Living haven't replied to me yet.

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ArbunneHun · 15/07/2018 13:46

Reported the comment. Crass, vile, discriminatory, offensive... wow.

There is an email for compliance issues: [email protected]

J x

Whiterangey · 15/07/2018 14:26

Thank you, I shall email them, I saved what I wrote so i'll just copy and paste and send that off.

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ArbunneHun · 15/07/2018 15:37

I’ve used that contact email before. I would always cc in the DSA - it helps get the issue pushed up the agenda!

Whiterangey · 15/07/2018 19:58

Thank you muchly for the advice, just about to do the email now.

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BSintolerant · 15/07/2018 20:06

That awful comment - Yawn is beyond the pale. I've also reported her for hate speech.

As for those deckchairs - are those the ones Forever bots are rearranging on the Titanic? Grin

Whiterangey · 15/07/2018 20:56

I've sent the email, cc'd the DSA and hopefully i'll get a reply in a timely manner.

I'm shocked that none of her friends or other FL acquaintances have told her to take it down and told her how offensive it is. They either tried and she wouldn't, or everyone thinks what she posted was acceptable.

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ArbunneHun · 15/07/2018 21:48

She’s a bully - remember how she got her nickname? - her followers might be too intimidated to say anything.

SSDGM · 15/07/2018 22:55

BROKE IS CONSIDERING BECOMING A COACH AS HE IS SO SUCCESSFUL KLAXON

Paddy1234 · 15/07/2018 23:06

I am also completely and utterly shocked that not one of her followers have pulled her up over this. Together with the R word I have told my children that is completely unacceptable as I work in the sector and the reasons why and the historical meanings of the words.
I would comment but I don't want my cover blown as our paths have crossed and we have mutual friends #undercover
Anyway on another note my friend had roomies son to stay this weekend #that will get them thinking 😂

Tw1nsetAndPearls · 16/07/2018 00:56

I reported Yawn's post but it was not considered a problem.

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