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MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?

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Whiterangey · 27/06/2018 19:38

Are charities being used by MLMer's to gain CC's, gain new leads, and get rid of stock?

Here is an example of a top Forever Living Business Owner in the UK taking advantage of a charity.

It may look like she is doing something good for the charity but she isn't. The charity will be getting 20% of profits. The business owner, the current UK number 2 in Forever Living, who recently picked up a $420,000 cheque at the Forever Living global rally in Dallas is just getting her Case Credits (CC's) up, and hoping to get new leads to sign up under her.

For everything that she sold Forever Living will have taking the biggest cut, then the business owners upline will have taken a cut, and then the business owner herself. Her profit will be very small and then she was only going to give away to the charity 20% of that. It could be as little as £10, probably a lot less, despite the members of the group spending hundreds of pounds with her. I hope she had the decency to at least add to it. For a 'charity night' where someone who has received multi-million dollars in cheques, and received $420k two months ago you'd expect at least 3 figures to be donated. 20% of her profits from that night will have been ridiculously small.

The charity will be getting even less as you can see she is running special offers which will come out of her profit, reducing the amount available to the charity even more.

As you can see in one of the screenshots someone in the local area of the charity attempted to warn the charity that the business owners motives may not be as charitable as it seems and the business owner wants to take the discussion away from public view, and then deleted the reply instead of giving a reply to show that the poster was wrong. She can't show the poster is wrong as the poster is right so instead chose to make it all go away.

The screenshot of a slide is one used by someone in the business owners downline, who correctly refers to the charity night as 'a launch' which is what it was, it wasn't for charity, it was for the business owner to sell her products and hopefully get some new recruits to her business.

The same business owner last year set up a justgiving page for donations to make up 'Positive Packs' to give to those suffering with breast cancer.

"The cost is 20 pounds which is non profit making and the pack value is worth far more. This will fund a Positive Pack containing Forever Toothgel, Aloe lips, Ever Shield Deodorant, fast break bar and some woolly socks and to every pack I will personally add a heat lotion, an aloe gelly and a herbal blossom tea sachet and an aloe to go."

So the donations will be used by the business owner to buy the items through her own account where she will make a profit from receiving a percentage of what is spent. She will also receive case credits from that. The case credits she received from sending out these Positive Packs will have gone towards her getting the $420k cheque in Dallas in April. So non-profit is not true as the business owner will be profiting in two ways.

The items can also be bought for a LOT less elsewhere, a tube of toothpaste can cost £1 from a supermarket, a stick of deodorant the same. I also wouldn't call toothpaste and deodorant something that anyone pampers themselves with, they are necessities.

The business owner will have used Forever Living products in the bags despite the recipients getting a lot less, and no luxury items, because she benefited herself from doing so. She also would have been able to, and did, use the Positive Packs to advertise Forever Living Products, and at least some of them were given out at a big presentation where the business owner would have been able to present her business opportunity there, some of whom are very vulnerable.

MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
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cozietoesie · 13/07/2018 17:36

Is the image titled at all?

Whiterangey · 13/07/2018 17:42

It's a post and then she's attached two photos. The drawing is a blue biro drawing in Yawn's diary. About 21 hours ago it was posted.

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SnoogyWoo · 13/07/2018 23:34

Can someone tell me who Yawn is? Been fascinated with MLM since I was conned into Amway 20 years ago lol.

Paddy1234 · 13/07/2018 23:56

Just catching up with Messiah - he and his followers/disciples are completely stark raving bonkers!
I still still think the FL lot are more dangerous as they go under the normality radar.

Whiterangey · 14/07/2018 04:46

The whole of MLM scares me, the lot of them.

Messiah's lot scares me the most, as you just said they are stark raving bonkers. None of them have actually held the product in their hands and i'm certain he has not discussed how many units of each product is being made, what happens when that sells out, or anything else apart from how it's going to be the biggest thing in the world.

I'm not sure what is going to happen at launch and in the period of time afterwards. The products will all be bought within 24 hours, by all the consultants, then what? Will more stock be forthcoming or will they need to wait months for more?

Will he just run off with the money before the launch? Or will he wait and try and get more money?

Those in FL are dangerous, you are right, they are so 'normal' on the outside. I've thought before about how i'd totally do MLM if I could get the same amount of money as Uber. Then my mind goes to my first meeting with a prospective recruit and how i'd have to lie to her and promise her the world while knowing she will lose money, self respect, friends, and maybe even her relationship, and I know I couldn't. I haven't got it in me to do that to people.

I have a conscience.

Obviously not talking about low down bots who actually truly believe that they will make lots of money and anyone they bring in to the MLM will make lots of money, they are victims, not predators.

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moose23ishungry · 14/07/2018 05:33

Bots recruiting desperate uni grads pisses me off big time

fitgirl26 · 14/07/2018 06:56

Broke's Ex's post about looking for a J.O.B (earns enough from MLM to keep her and the princesses in swanky holidays but won't volunteer) has mysteriously vanished. Funny that...

BangingOn · 14/07/2018 08:29

Uber’s post this morning has made me rather nauseous. Shoving a tube of aloe in your baby’s hand and posting schmaltzy nonsense about Mummy providing an extraordinary life Hmm

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 14/07/2018 09:09

Meanwhile Roomie got back from her trek across the UK last night only to be leaving again today for Success Day.

More unpaid miles, more unpaid hours with the expense of petrol, tickets and refreshments etc

Her son's school broke up last week. Wonder if she's seen much of him whilst working her family friendly business?? 🤔

Norma27 · 14/07/2018 10:33

I’m sure Uber’s daughter’s favourite toy is a tube of aloe jelly.
Let’s hope she doesn’t shove it all in her mouth at some point. What irresponsible parenting.

Another success day you say? They must love all the time they get to spend making memories with their families. NOT!

Norma27 · 14/07/2018 10:35

And roomie is about to start another c9. Really?!

moose23ishungry · 14/07/2018 10:51

So roomie bot is losing her mind about traffic jams on her epic road trips. Imagine if she had a job where she could stay at home and work her biz from the comfort of her own home.. oh hang on!

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 14/07/2018 11:13

FFS she's moved to Devon and seems surprised to discover a lot of traffic heading that way on a Friday afternoon/evening......D'oh!

Norma27 · 14/07/2018 12:06

Wonder if roomie and yawn will be talking to each other today at success day?!

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 14/07/2018 12:09

Nah. Roomie shat on her from a great height in Dallas.

Yawn's got a new favourite now...Mrs Stickman.

moose23ishungry · 14/07/2018 12:26

How the hell is it success day again!?

moose23ishungry · 14/07/2018 12:31

Also, Stickmans's wife C9 progress photos are of weeks 2, 6 and 13 weeks post parturition.

#1, it's normal to lose weight naturally following childbirth
2# ffs surely caring for the baby is more important than losing weight! If you're breastfeeding, doing a c9 won't be helping you! And if you're not, well you still need some healthy food to get over the blood loss and get through the sleepless nights.

SSDGM · 14/07/2018 13:12

Broke: “you will never be successful if all you do is moan, blame and complain”

Is he taking the fucking piss????

Norma27 · 14/07/2018 13:15

I do feel sorry for Mrs stickman. She should be enjoying her new baby, not stuck in some crappy room in order to walk across a stage. As well as spending every waking hour peddling that shite.
She commented on my Herbalife bots statuses this week. Hope she doesn’t get suckered into that too.

rainbowfudgee · 14/07/2018 13:21

There's been a utility warehouse bot whose stickered mini I've seen every day walking my DCS to school. Well, yesterday the stickers had all been removed send the mini is up for sale...end of the mlm dream I think.

Myusername2015 · 14/07/2018 13:24

I’ve just seen the saddest post on an fl team page about a woman whose just joined talking at success day. She has stage 4 terminal cancer and is doing fl to give her family “financial security”
I am more angry than I’ve been in a long time to whatever leech signed her up with such promises. Spending her possible final time chanting at success day and swing over priced gloop instead of making memories with her family Sad

Norma27 · 14/07/2018 13:50

That is disgusting. Someone I know died this week of brain cancer. Thankfully they spent their last days/weeks/ couple of months being looked after by their family.
Makes me sick how they can do this to people when they are obviously at their lowest:
Bloody vultures

Whiterangey · 14/07/2018 17:54

That is utterly disgusting, though somehow i'm not shocked, saddened, but not shocked.

Yawn is making bullshit income claims again. Has listed names of people in her team who went on stage and claimed one of them earns 20k a month. Must be referring to BFF, i've seen her accounts, going by her last accounts she qualifies for tax credits. She's either hiding income and thus committing fraud, or Yawn is lying.

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rainbowfudgee · 14/07/2018 18:04

They are all lying. It's just awful. If one of my relatives or friends was dying of cancer and got roped into thelse schemes I would be livid.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 14/07/2018 18:59

So the best thing about the 'new' aloe gloop
is that it has 'zero aloe taste'.

Basically admitting that they've been forcing vile-tasting shite down their, and everybody else's, throats for forty years.