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MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?

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Whiterangey · 27/06/2018 19:38

Are charities being used by MLMer's to gain CC's, gain new leads, and get rid of stock?

Here is an example of a top Forever Living Business Owner in the UK taking advantage of a charity.

It may look like she is doing something good for the charity but she isn't. The charity will be getting 20% of profits. The business owner, the current UK number 2 in Forever Living, who recently picked up a $420,000 cheque at the Forever Living global rally in Dallas is just getting her Case Credits (CC's) up, and hoping to get new leads to sign up under her.

For everything that she sold Forever Living will have taking the biggest cut, then the business owners upline will have taken a cut, and then the business owner herself. Her profit will be very small and then she was only going to give away to the charity 20% of that. It could be as little as £10, probably a lot less, despite the members of the group spending hundreds of pounds with her. I hope she had the decency to at least add to it. For a 'charity night' where someone who has received multi-million dollars in cheques, and received $420k two months ago you'd expect at least 3 figures to be donated. 20% of her profits from that night will have been ridiculously small.

The charity will be getting even less as you can see she is running special offers which will come out of her profit, reducing the amount available to the charity even more.

As you can see in one of the screenshots someone in the local area of the charity attempted to warn the charity that the business owners motives may not be as charitable as it seems and the business owner wants to take the discussion away from public view, and then deleted the reply instead of giving a reply to show that the poster was wrong. She can't show the poster is wrong as the poster is right so instead chose to make it all go away.

The screenshot of a slide is one used by someone in the business owners downline, who correctly refers to the charity night as 'a launch' which is what it was, it wasn't for charity, it was for the business owner to sell her products and hopefully get some new recruits to her business.

The same business owner last year set up a justgiving page for donations to make up 'Positive Packs' to give to those suffering with breast cancer.

"The cost is 20 pounds which is non profit making and the pack value is worth far more. This will fund a Positive Pack containing Forever Toothgel, Aloe lips, Ever Shield Deodorant, fast break bar and some woolly socks and to every pack I will personally add a heat lotion, an aloe gelly and a herbal blossom tea sachet and an aloe to go."

So the donations will be used by the business owner to buy the items through her own account where she will make a profit from receiving a percentage of what is spent. She will also receive case credits from that. The case credits she received from sending out these Positive Packs will have gone towards her getting the $420k cheque in Dallas in April. So non-profit is not true as the business owner will be profiting in two ways.

The items can also be bought for a LOT less elsewhere, a tube of toothpaste can cost £1 from a supermarket, a stick of deodorant the same. I also wouldn't call toothpaste and deodorant something that anyone pampers themselves with, they are necessities.

The business owner will have used Forever Living products in the bags despite the recipients getting a lot less, and no luxury items, because she benefited herself from doing so. She also would have been able to, and did, use the Positive Packs to advertise Forever Living Products, and at least some of them were given out at a big presentation where the business owner would have been able to present her business opportunity there, some of whom are very vulnerable.

MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
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Norma27 · 10/07/2018 14:20

They obviously have a completely different moral compass to the rest of us.
I’m meeting a best friend of Uber’s soon. Can’t wait to get some gossip from her! She still loves Uber as a friend but knows she hates her getting other friends involved in the scam.

Whiterangey · 10/07/2018 15:10

Her daughter's friend will go home and tell her mum and dad all about Forever and her parents will tell her all about what a scam it is and how they despise people selling that shite.

I know for a fact that my kids already have that knowledge and would say something. I wouldn't be surprised if she's had comments at school because of what her mother does, especially as Yawn will have tried to recruit some of her classmates mothers.

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dickiedavisthunderthighs · 10/07/2018 17:44

Yawn's admitted on various posts that she left school with bugger all in the way of qualifications. Surely you'd want more for your child than to be a soap rep?

Whiterangey · 10/07/2018 18:43

I think she sees her daughter as an extension of herself and not a person in her own right who needs to do her own thing, not follow her mother blindly into an MLM. Although when her daughter is 18 I imagine the top bot in the UK with forever will be earning £6.72 a week and Yawn will be working in a J.O.B.

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Norma27 · 10/07/2018 18:44

For the second time in 2 competitions, my nuskin bot has not picked a winner in the date stated. Luckily I have reminded her again!
The cynic in me would say it is a way of getting more names on your who do I know list, as you have to tag 3 people in order to enter, without ever intending anybody to actually win.
Don’t worry, I won’t let her forget.

Whiterangey · 10/07/2018 18:55

I hate the tag people thing. That is how learned about LuLaRoe. Kept on getting tagged in groups by people trying to win prizes. When you are tagged the group owner will join you into the group.

Which is ridiculous because then you end up with lots of people who don't care about what you are selling.

Then they would have a go at me when i'd complain, not even caring that they don't see to anywhere by the US.

LuLaRoe is fascinating for it's extremely rapid growth and equally rapid demise. It's nearly over. Lot's of link to religion, Mormon's especially. Christian's are all over it as well though 'God has blessed me with this business' that kind of thing.

It cost many thousands to join though, many women have lost many many thousands of dollars, it's horrendous.

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Whiterangey · 10/07/2018 19:16

According to Broke CBD can be used in dogs, for everything, from cancer pain, to epilepsy.

It's one thing an adult choosing to use it, dogs don't have that choice and are reliant on humans to make that choice for them. I'm not a vet but i'm going to guess that a vet would be a better choice to help with conditions in dogs.

In my experience with dogs i've not seen them in pain from cancer. One of my dogs growing up had womb cancer, she was 14. A hysterectomy was advised, not as a cure but that it would take away the tumour and she would have another 6 months pain free.

18 pain free months later and she had some kind of sudden collapse, legs were paralysed, she seemed happy enough even then and we got to say goodbye to her. I miss her and i'm crying now.

A dog in pain from cancer doesn't need painkillers, if the cancer cannot be removed then the dog has no quality of life, the cancer will just get bigger and the pain worse. Painkillers for arthritis is one thing, with cancer once it's causing pain then you have to put the dogs welfare above your own want for the dog to remain alive.

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cozietoesie · 10/07/2018 19:32

Presumably, canine 'meds' are less regulated?

Norma27 · 10/07/2018 19:45

My nuskin bot loves the support I am giving her!
Think my reply will get me blocked but!

Norma27 · 10/07/2018 19:46

*blocked now! Not but

SSDGM · 10/07/2018 19:57

@ArbunneHun I saw Broke’s Comment on his toddler son too. He’s just a complete fool. Thing is now, he’s ruined it for himself. He was so insistent that he was right that he can never admit defeat and get a proper job with an average salary to support his children because that will mean admitting to himself that he is wrong and he will never do that.

Spongebobette · 10/07/2018 20:32

I would advise having higher ambitions for your daughter than being a child model and being a network marketer. Encourage her to stay in education, widen her horizons and not be limited by her mother’s ‘achievements’.

Paddy1234 · 10/07/2018 20:37

Anyone heard of this one - came up on my fb timeline on the miraculous healing powers of the oil. Knowing the lady it's not a surprise though. I think she maybe a distributer and mlm

MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
Spongebobette · 10/07/2018 21:00

Bloody hell. Talk about health claims!!!

Whiterangey · 11/07/2018 00:58

To me, and i'm sure to all of you, those health claims are giggle worthy, we know that CBD is not going cure, or even help with, anything at all, unless you want to lose money.

However, to people with terminal or chronic diseases who are desperate, they will buy this shit and have false hope and it's utterly depressing for those around them who know it will do sod all for them.

There have been no clinical trials for the CBD oil which is legal in the UK. Most bring out the clinical trials which have been performed on CBD oil which is not legal in the UK. The miraculous seizure stopping CBD oil which has been in the press, is not the same as the one these shysters are selling. Hence the medical licences for the children involved to have it.

I dread to think how many MLMers contacted the parents of the kids involved offering their oil, for a price, with a view to getting a new team member.

It's heartbreaking to see someone who thinks CBD is going to help, when you know it won't, when someone has hope and you know it's all bullshit. People who sell these CBD oils really do need to fuck off.

There are teams of experts all over the world working in their laboratories and clinics and stuff trying to find cures, trying to find treatments. If CBD was a cure don't you think they would be giving it to patients?

I'm not talking pharmaceutical companies, but many many research projects are paid by charities, billionaire donors, The EU, universities, and so on. What have they got to gain by hiding this miracle cure?

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Whiterangey · 11/07/2018 01:05

It's nice to see Yawn showing off her body. I hope that continues, especially as she has a girl child.

There is nothing at all wrong with how she looks.

Here's hoping her change of heart with how she feels about herself will translate to her stopping fatshaming women into buying her bullshit 'weight management' products. She knows they don't work and in the case of the C9 actually contribute to women feeling bad about themselves when they put back on every single lb they lost within a few days of stopping it.

Probably too much to wish for as she doesn't care about other women.

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SSDGM · 11/07/2018 11:26

Pleased Bradford is doing some voluntary work, but this kind of blows her argument that she can’t do traditional work outside the home out of the water a bit...

ArbunneHun · 11/07/2018 11:30

Wig ‘n’ Sleaze are well on their way to making a million £ this year huns! They are ‘semi-retired’ now and living the high life on a night out in Southport! This is despite all the lies and hate directed towards them, sometimes even from their own ‘famalies’ (sic).

It’s all real! It’s all true! It’s not a scam!

SSDGM · 11/07/2018 12:31

bites tongue trying not to comment about our our favourite powercouple having a hard paper round

fridgepants · 11/07/2018 14:50

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SSDGM · 11/07/2018 15:02

I think Yvonne is telling fibs.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 11/07/2018 15:56

I think Yvonne may be imaginary, just like her claimed income.

willdoitinaminute · 11/07/2018 17:45

Yawn has been photoshopping again. Had a look at her “new figure” and the door frame behind her is way out of line. Yet again lack of attention to detail always fails her as does her maths.

SSDGM · 11/07/2018 18:08

It’s barely a “new body”. I can gain 2 inches on my waist by dinnertime and it will be gone by the next morning.
She’s supposed to work for a health and wellness company. Not a weight loss company. You can be healthy and well at the size she is now.

Whiterangey · 11/07/2018 18:09

My son was just watching a Smosh video that came up on my facebook, I was watching some cat thing and it was next suggested video, hence why I was watching it.

Suddenly, a wild Avon ad appeared, it was a personal one, an Avon 'business owner' has paid for ads to appear in videos on facebook. It was super crappy, it was just photos from what I can remember as I wasn't taking notice at first until I saw the Avon bit.

Her face suddenly zoomed into the video, a still photograph with some kind of video editing tool.

As it was an ad I can't go back and have another look at it.

Why would an Avon ad appear in the middle of a Smosh video?

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