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MLM Bot Watch 40 - Forever Living is 40! Yet still 99% of people in all MLM's lose money

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Whiterangey · 29/05/2018 12:27

Not making money with Forever Living?

Not making money with any MLM?

How to make money with Forever Living?
How to make money with MLM?

Maybe this report done for the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) by Jon M. Taylor, MBA, Ph.D., of the Consumer Awareness Institute may have the reason why.

www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/public_comments/trade-regulation-rule-disclosure-requirements-and-prohibitions-concerning-business-opportunities-ftc.r511993-00008%C2%A0/00008-57281.pdf

When someone urges you to join an MLM in their downline with tales of the riches you can earn, all they are trying to do is use you to earn themselves more money. They know the stats, they know you won't make money and you will lose money, and friends.

They will lovebomb you, be your best friend, be all over you and then drop you like a stone.

Look at the person who is your uplines facebook. See how the people who were tagged in her statuses a year ago the same way you are tagged now are doing. Are they still with the company? Many won't be. Those who are will still not be doing well, exactly the same as a year ago, or two years ago.

If you are in Forever living, check facebook for the global rally cheques of your upline, notice how they have been going down year on year? The market reached saturation point in 2015, it's downhill since then and things will get worse, not better.

Most MLM's in the UK are at the same point, we are not a huge country and MLM's have reached saturation point.

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RelativePitch · 26/06/2018 17:59

Yawn Bestie has had her new car delivered, might be an 18 plate but it looks very dusty!

BangingOn · 26/06/2018 18:41

And she thanks a leasing company in her post- leasing isn’t actually that expensive if you don’t try to actually own it.

Whiterangey · 26/06/2018 19:17

I saw the leasing company, it's a few steps down from walking into a prestige car garage and ordering your lease car with all the trimmings.

It's possible her car isn't brand new, it has an 18 plate but it could be a few months old. Cars are so much cheaper when someone else has driven it off the forecourt.

No new car photo on a garage forecourt with the silk sheet reveal or flowers and whatever else.

The car was initially registered in London.

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RelativePitch · 26/06/2018 19:18

Yes but it's being paid for by FLP apparently...

DoraExplorer99 · 26/06/2018 20:00

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Sean1984 · 26/06/2018 20:59

The european bots wont have to pay much for the trip to sweden, when they can catch a Ryanair or Easyjet there for £40 return!!!!

Lonelybutnice · 26/06/2018 21:18

Thanks for the nice replies guys. Just perusing FB and ended up on yawn's new bot's page (the one whose husband makes tree/stick art type gift things) One of her recent posts reminds me exactly of the one I was ashamed of this morning on my FB memories. She says something along the lines of 'I'm not earning millions but I'm earning enough to have a good lifestyle'
She's just had her first promotion (same level as me when I made that shameful post) and I would bet my house that she's spent more than she earned so far. All of her posts speak for themselves; all of her FLP posts have few, if any, comments and a few likes. One post about the anniversary of Michael Jackson's death has loads of comments.
I wish I could let her know that if she fast forwards a few years she will be deleting that post while her cheeks are burning in shame.

ArbunneHun · 26/06/2018 21:41

Wait: didn’t Yawn announce that she had qualified for Stockholm while she was in Dallas (or shortly after)?

I’m sure she already broadcast that success to the world...

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Whiterangey · 26/06/2018 21:51

Yawn's husband announced it, Yawn didn't know and he wrote it and was congratulating his awesome wife. I don't know if anyone actually bought that, but there you go.

It was back in April 'her husband' wrote that. He must be a bit dim because he mentions that she has to work hard now to get another one of those big fat cheques.

When would she have known she wasn't getting a cheque this year? That, written before she went to America indicates she would be getting a cheque. Were they blagging it or did she really not know before she went?

That she kept the bottom part of her invitation to the global rally in Dallas back in Feb hidden led me to believe with hindsight that she knew then.

Another post of hers I saw from the boom year was all about her surprise that she was going to receive a cheque in 2015, that was in Feb as well. Surely they would know earlier?

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Toobusytowee · 26/06/2018 22:27

Lonelybutnice, you’ve given me an idea. I could do a blog post of confessions from ex-bots. People could submit things they did that they now regret. Screenshots of Facebook posts and explanations of the truth behind them would make fascinating reading.

If anyone would like to submit their experiences, I would treat them confidentially and sensitively. I think it would be a great weapon against the MLM industry and ‘fake it til you make it’ mentality.

Please email me at [email protected] or visit me on Twitter or Facebook.

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Whiterangey · 26/06/2018 23:14

You know when you read something so disgusting that you just want to put your head in your hands and cry for a while?

Last night Uber couldn't be at the last Monday night cult session because she "had a fab evening with a breast cancer charity".

Yawn is looking forward to her Summertime Masterclass at her house on Sunday and has shared some slides.

Uber had a launch on Monday, her first one with the new gels. 5 out of 10 people there ordered 3 bottles (Tripacks are a winner!!!)

I'm guessing the slide before was how to trick people into buying your Forever Living crap by thinly disguising it as a charity event.

She bloody did as well, it was at an event in Sutton Coldfield, it's a group run by people who have suffered with Breast Cancer.

20% of the profit got donated to the group. So by selling her aloe vera shit to people suffering with breast cancer Uber, who has received cheques in excess of a million dollars and this year received a cheque for over $400k donated 20% of her profit. I'm guessing that was likely about £10, after selling hundreds of pounds worth of utter shite that if you really wanted it you could buy similar for a lot less.

I wouldn't be shocked if health claims were made.

We all know the real reason she went there, it was to try and recruit women who have had, or who are suffering from breast cancer for her stupid little 'business'.

Uber has no morals, what she did was disgusting and absolutely vile.

She is now trying to get more people in the breast cancer group to book her stupid pamper and prosecco sessions.

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Whiterangey · 26/06/2018 23:25

I also love how Uber claimed it was a charity thing and Yawn accidentally outed the truth on her slides. They don't even care enough to even pretend to each other and those in their teams.

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Whiterangey · 27/06/2018 09:44

Someone has replied to Ubers post, laying out what is going on and outlining how she has donated real proper money without scamming anyone and how you can do it to.

Uber is requesting a PM, why always the PM's? She is 'very upset'.

Upset at being caught out.

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Norma27 · 27/06/2018 10:28

Has that been deleted now whiterangey? I can’t see anybody replying to Uber’s posts upsetting her?
They are all bloody vultures. Pretending to be charitable.

ArbunneHun · 27/06/2018 10:36

I just looked for it too. Think it must’ve been deleted. Hopefully someone screenshotted for posterity.

Cue the next round of cyber bullying claims...

J x

Whiterangey · 27/06/2018 10:39

I think Uber has deleted her post.

Not shocked at that.

MLM Bot Watch 40 - Forever Living is 40!  Yet still 99% of people in all MLM's lose money
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Whiterangey · 27/06/2018 10:44

This is Yawns slide which busted Uber's 'Charity Night' claims. Showing that Uber wasn't doing a charity night, she was doing a launch. Those she was selling at were obviously under the impression it was charity related, but as Yawn says, it was a launch and is planning to incorporate what Uber did into her training session.

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Whiterangey · 27/06/2018 10:56

The reply and details on how to donate to the charity if you so wish. The reply is written by some hero who we should all aspire to be more like.

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9dartfinish · 27/06/2018 11:05

Not all heroes wear capes it seems.

Whiterangey · 27/06/2018 11:22

This is what I like about people, you are down, thinking about how horrible people can be, and then you get your faith in humanity restored.

Uber also did the whole Positive Pack thing out of the goodness of her heart.

She crowdfunded, she legit set up a justgiving page for people to sponser these packs.

"The cost is 20 pounds which is non profit making and the pack value is worth far more. This will fund a Positive Pack containing Forever Toothgel, Aloe lips, Ever Shield Deodorant, fast break bar and some woolly socks and to every pack I will personally add a heat lotion, an aloe gelly and a herbal blossom tea sachet and an aloe to go."

Notice how she is donating products and not money, products she will already have an abundance of as she will have bought them to keep her CC's up or whatever. The money will go through her Forever account, while she may not make a financial profit, she will get the CC's from that, so she will benefit.

You could also buy the same products for a lot lot cheaper. Shouldn't a care package be about treats and luxury? I wouldn't call toothpaste and deodorant a luxury.

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Norma27 · 27/06/2018 11:39

Poor Uber. How dare somebody say the truth and upset her.

ArbunneHun · 27/06/2018 12:06

I think we should ask FLP UK what their official policy is when it comes to using charitible outreach to boost CCs/sell products that profit FL.

peacypops · 27/06/2018 14:12

Roomy is offering pampering sessions - all profits to go to a well-know cancer charity (whilst boosting sales for roomy of course). Grrrr