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MLM Bot Watch 40 - Forever Living is 40! Yet still 99% of people in all MLM's lose money

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Whiterangey · 29/05/2018 12:27

Not making money with Forever Living?

Not making money with any MLM?

How to make money with Forever Living?
How to make money with MLM?

Maybe this report done for the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) by Jon M. Taylor, MBA, Ph.D., of the Consumer Awareness Institute may have the reason why.

www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/public_comments/trade-regulation-rule-disclosure-requirements-and-prohibitions-concerning-business-opportunities-ftc.r511993-00008%C2%A0/00008-57281.pdf

When someone urges you to join an MLM in their downline with tales of the riches you can earn, all they are trying to do is use you to earn themselves more money. They know the stats, they know you won't make money and you will lose money, and friends.

They will lovebomb you, be your best friend, be all over you and then drop you like a stone.

Look at the person who is your uplines facebook. See how the people who were tagged in her statuses a year ago the same way you are tagged now are doing. Are they still with the company? Many won't be. Those who are will still not be doing well, exactly the same as a year ago, or two years ago.

If you are in Forever living, check facebook for the global rally cheques of your upline, notice how they have been going down year on year? The market reached saturation point in 2015, it's downhill since then and things will get worse, not better.

Most MLM's in the UK are at the same point, we are not a huge country and MLM's have reached saturation point.

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ArbunneHun · 22/06/2018 15:06

Speaking of Sacked By Arrriiiiiiix, she’s just posted an angry status about lots of her team receiving the same scripted voice message trying to poach them to an unlaunched, unproven new MLM.

Which new MLM could be going around trying to poach leaders from other companies, I wonder? T-otally S-hocking behaviour! Let people live their LIFE, that’s what I say...

Whiterangey · 22/06/2018 15:41

@ArbunneHun I'm not having a lot of luck finding Sacked by Ariiiiiiiiiiiiix, is there any way that facebook search can help me?

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 22/06/2018 15:51

@Whiterangey - She is fond of posh cars, and her surname serendipitously matches that of a premium UK brand.

(Used to be UK, anyway)

Twentytwentyhindsight · 22/06/2018 16:12

Wig's crowing about her 'best investment yet' - presumably because it's gone all of five days before the mugs she roped in have realised their money's gone.

ArbunneHun · 22/06/2018 16:20

But surely not?! After all, Wig’s new company has Powernodes AND Masternodes!

That’s always what I look for in an investment opportunity.

Whiterangey · 22/06/2018 16:21

Found her, and of course the first thing I tried to find was something to do with urine.

Found a post referencing it but it appears the video is gone.

I is sad.

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Whiterangey · 22/06/2018 16:31

I found a video where she did the same thing but with stagnant paddling pool water and then got her kids to drink it.

Except she switched the bottles. When she was drinking it herself she kept the front of the bottle covered with her hand, the kids didn't and the little black bits and other gunk were suddenly missing from the unfiltered water in the bottle. I'm guessing the urine was the same.

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ArbunneHun · 22/06/2018 16:36

We rather took the piss (see what I did there?) on Timeless Vie at the time. She was alerted and took the video down, but not before bringing a bunch of her downline over to kick off in the page and mass-report...

Twentytwentyhindsight · 22/06/2018 16:45

@ArbunneHun - That must be the secret. The Nodes have given the scheme a full week of life before the website goes quiet and the Barcelona lawyers (regulated by EU law, no less) have disappeared off the face of the Earth.

But it's OK huns, I'm sure Wig's team of legal experts checked it over first!

Twentytwentyhindsight · 22/06/2018 16:50

Re. Sacked by Ariiiiix & the magic water filters, I almost feel some respect for the team of snake oil salespeople who thought that one up.

"Hmmm, what is the most unlikely scam we can pull?

I know! We'll get people to pay to drink their own piss and recruit others to do the same!

Oh, be quiet, no one is that gullible!

Well... maybe it's worth a throw..."

ArbunneHun · 22/06/2018 16:55

Went down a little rabbit hole of looking at my screen grabs from a year ago - still got some of the wee-drinking, so that’s preserved for the archives - found one of the FLP UK General Manager saying how disappointing it was that UK had fallen to second place in the world rankings, but that if everyone pushed hard to ‘sponsor’ more new FBOs, they’d soon be back at the top!

That’s not aged well, has it?? How’s that working out for you, FLP UK? U OK HUN?

Twentytwentyhindsight · 22/06/2018 17:03

On a more positive note, it seems Sleaze's son is out of danger and on the mend.

I'm a cynical curmudgeon, but I genuinely wish him well.

I am also looking forward to our favourite Power Couple being whole again and continuing their 'fast and deliberate' drive toward World domination!

Twentytwentyhindsight · 22/06/2018 17:04

*or was that 'fast and intentional'?

Hunbot · 22/06/2018 18:08

Ha ha whiterangey. Went to look at broke and was looking at the wrong one yesterday. The one I was looking at was dressed like jesus Hence the wtf Ness. Have now found the real broke

Whiterangey · 22/06/2018 18:12

Bless the FLP UK General Manager, he forgot to put it on his dream board.

Is he paid on results in his country?

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Whiterangey · 22/06/2018 18:17

That is fantastic news about Sleaze's son, so pleased he is out of hospital and getting better.

Wig without Sleaze is like Laurel without Hardy, it will be good to have the double act back.

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ArbunneHun · 22/06/2018 18:18

Pretty sure he is, @WhiteRangey.

Also, he was very clear that the key to success is to sponsor as many people as possible. No mention of actually selling any over-priced Aloe-derivatives. Funny that.

SSDGM · 22/06/2018 18:27

I tried to read Sacked’s tgread about the message to her leaders but when I got to the bit with the Isagenix bot who’s making millions and saying the UK launch last year was the biggest ever I started getting that feeling where I want to punch the people in my phone and had to put Facebook away. Again.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 22/06/2018 18:58

@Hunbot - I can assure you that, given time, 'Our' Broke is just as special in his own way.

ArbunneHun · 22/06/2018 19:07

@SSDGM I followed one of the first Isagenix bots in the UK for a while. She clearly couldn’t sell the stuff as it’s so expensive. She also battled with her weight and I started to find her posts distressing.

Happy to say that she’s given up MLM, has a normal J. O. B. and has joined Slimming World.

Whiterangey · 22/06/2018 19:09

Yawn is off delivering customer orders, just like Santa. if Santa only had a deodorant and toothpaste to deliver.

I'd say the petrol would cost more than postage would but she will be trying to get whatever poor sod ordered those on her team, so of course she will be paying a personal visit.

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fitgirl26 · 22/06/2018 19:14

@Twentytwentyhindsight - you are right.Wig 'n Sleaze do indeed move "fast and intentional". From scam to scam to scam to scam.....

BethanyBarleywater · 22/06/2018 19:46

Is Sacked by Ariixxxx now Lipsense?

danbarnes · 22/06/2018 19:55

What actually happened to Privilege Car Club? Did the scheme collapse or did they get shut down? What happened to the cars that people qualified for, did PCC own them outright or were the leases in the names of the qualifiers?

Twentytwentyhindsight · 22/06/2018 20:06

@danbarnes - That is the whole thing about those Ponzi schemes.

All of a sudden, it stops happening, the website or FB page goes dead, everyone is left to give their own explanation to those that they roped in.

There is no real paper trail, neither did those dazzled by the promise of cheap cars, free cash etc. ask for one.

The smoke and mirrors are removed, and there is nothing to see.

The mugs haven't lost enough individually to make it worth their while to pursue it through the courts for a forensic analysis of who owned what to ever take place.