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45K in debt

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UsedToLoveMorrissey · 27/04/2018 13:47

Hello, i think i just need to get this off my chest.

We are £45k in debt. All unsecured, and no access to anymore credit and all in husband's name.

I don't work. I used to do well on-line and at craft fairs but that has taken a huge hit and I don't do fairs anymore as they are not worth it now where we live. I am learning to drive so I can get a job within school hours (we live in the middle of nowhere, 5 buses a day, if they bother to show up and times don't suit to get back for DS).

DH has a good job, but we live in Scotland and I think the rate has changed or the pension contributions have because DH is less £70 a month now. I cried when I saw this this morning.

We can make the payments but any spending above our food/petrol/school lunches etc and we end up in our overdraft so by christmas, we are £2k down. My craft sales at xmas pay this off thankfully, and pays for presents but the rest of the year is rubbish. I sell on Etsy so I dont have a website to upkeep, just the cost of listing each item and a small % in commission.

DS has a good job, but with less than £3k a month coming in, and £900 of to go purely on CC and Loans repayments, excluding mortgage and car (which DH needs because of where we live) we are struggling. Our food bill is approx £100 per month. That includes 1 bottle of wine. No smokes. I have coeliac disease so my bread is a bit dearer, but that's only one loaf a week. One pack of GF biscuits, no other biscuits and very little crap.

I'm not a good cook, we eat basic meals that I do cook from scratch. We eat meat once a week (either chicken or mince beef), we eat mostly salads with tuna/roasted veg and rice/baked pots/soups. We don't eat takeways (we live too far our for delivery). I get the shopping delivered from Asda as that works out at about 40p per week with the mid week saver. We go through about 20 eggs a week (DS and DH love them). Sliced Egg on toast is a favourite weekend lunch.

We eat a lot of fruit, which we do buy from M&S as that is so nice. I have found the delivered fruit to be poor quaility.

If I really try, I am sure we could shave about £10 of the shopping. But really, I cant see anywhere else to make the saving.

The issue somes to this: because we are making the payments, we've not missed one, the Debt website Step Change, are recommending a cut in spending accross the board but no debt advice as such because we can repay.

Also, DH has a job which he would lose if he was made bankrupt. We'd love the debt to be paid off, but we have no extra income, and we'd be out on the streets if were chose a debt soloution as we have no savings to get us through DS losing his job.

I'm prepared to accept the advice that we simply have to accept the situation, we can pay the debt, we have a house and food, but we have nothing else. Any clothes, hair cuts, days out takes us further in debt. It's getting us down and we are snipping at each other too. I'm probably about 6mth away from passing my driving test, and will be reliant on getting a part time job to help out. Until then, I'll keep doing surveys. Being a lurker on here, I have recently changed the CC repayments to a set amount, so that should reduce the balance so much quicker. Thank you t the poster who mentioned this trick.

Sorry for the moan. I know we are to a certain extent luckier than so many people but for 2 very unflashy, unshowy people, we sure have wracked up too much debt through poor choices years ago.

OP posts:
TalkinPeece · 28/04/2018 15:25

THe spreadsheet to check out the difference that Standing Orrders make to credit card debt is on here
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/legal_money_matters/1987219-SPREADSHEETS-for-Debt-Control-Budgeting-Mortgages-etc

If you switch to a standing order TODAY the debt will be gone in three years
if you stay with a direct debit you will have it for nearly 20 years

just do it

blinkowl · 28/04/2018 15:38

This is interesting - from Money Saving Expert - is your council tax band correct? If your overpaying, get a backdated refund!

www.moneysavingexpert.com/reclaim/council-tax-bands-change

TalkinPeece · 28/04/2018 15:47

Don't hold your breath though as councils are so strapped for cash they do not have the staff to process claims

TalkinPeece · 28/04/2018 15:50

PS - I've popped the OP's numbers into the spreadsheet :-)

greathat · 28/04/2018 15:54

How long have you spending that much on lottery! That's a big chunk right there. Cut back on Netflix and look for better deals for phone internet and gas elec etc. Have you switched insurance providers recently?

greathat · 28/04/2018 15:58

Did you buy your car new? Don't do that again! Brand new cars are a shocking waste of money. They lose like a third of their value as soon as your drive them off the forecourt. Cancel the lottery and delete anything that would remind you of it

Laska5772 · 28/04/2018 16:06

TalkinPeece really knows what she is doing withcredit card and debt advice .. So yes please do take her advice and change to a standing order ASAP..

Also for other on-going support why not come and join us on the Frugaleers thread? .. we are a friendly bunch and are all there supporting each other with living the best we can on the money we have.

daysofpearlyspencer · 28/04/2018 16:07

Evening and weekend jobs are not always advertised, walk into your nearest pub or restaurant and see if you can get some shifts. Sometimes landlords don't realise they need staff until you present yourself! It worked for me in the past, good luck

TalkinPeece · 28/04/2018 16:09

And Laska5772 is pretty good on that frugal stuff - so do join that group Grin

Laska5772 · 28/04/2018 16:14

waves at Talkin

blinkowl · 28/04/2018 16:16

Lots of good suggestions on this page also: www.moneysavingexpert.com/family/money-help

TryingToForgeAnewLife · 28/04/2018 16:17

Does your DS school have any work? Cleaner, LSA, lunchtime supervisor?

irregularegular · 28/04/2018 16:19

How old is your DS? What are your work options? There are obvious savings you can make: we live very happily without the lottery, Netflix, Sky, M&S fruit. But unless childcare would cost more than your wages, getting a job is probably going to be worth rather more than small cutbacks.

blinkowl · 28/04/2018 16:21

@Babyiwantabump excellent! And according to the email Bulb sent me, the credit will come through just in time for my birthday, so thank you for the birthday present!

We found them much cheaper than British Gas too.

Only one thing to mention. Bulb offer to pay any fees your company charges for leaving (we'd been with British Gas so long there were no fees though!) but if you have any outstanding debt, British Gas will ask you to settle up on your last bill.

If you're not paying off any old debt to them then that's irrelevant, but we had a debt on the account. If I'd been on the ball, I would have rung them and arranged to pay this debt in a few instalments rather than all at once. But it didn't occur to me so it just came out of my account which was a bit of a surprise!

QuiteLikely5 · 28/04/2018 16:22

Op

Your mortgage has gone up £200 since your deal expired?

No no no. You need to get a rate switch. Your own lender allows you to select a new rate without having to assess your income/charging you any legal fees

You need to look into this ASAP

You can borrow against your mortgage - you don’t have to extend the term you just contact your lender and they will tell you if you are eligible or not.

Another poster has kindly pointed out that you would be debt free in 3 years if you paid by Standing order too

Tbh your fruit and sports tv - I would keep. Otherwise what else exciting do you have to look forward too

Also I’m not sure what careers you have been in, in the past but they might have charity’s? For instance there are nursing, armed forces, teaching charities

QuiteLikely5 · 28/04/2018 16:23

Oh and op you can usually rate switch online without having to talk to your lender. You log into their website

LonelyOversharer · 28/04/2018 16:29

Hi op. I was going to suggest coming to see us on the frugaleer thread too!

I have 31k on credit cards. From just day to day stuff, spending more than I have. I too don't have a huge house, or flashy cars, or designer clothes galore. I just sometimes need to buy clothes, or food for the dc, or get the car fixed etc. It just mounted up.

talkinpeace you are ace Flowers. I am standing ordering my credit cards, and not spending on them. My balance is starting to reduce. But it is bloody hard.

Our stories sound similar op I too am a crafter. I sell on etsy as well. It has paid for many Christmases! I sell to a craft shop too, at a sort of 'trade rate' but can make regular (ok small amounts of) money doing this. Could you maybe try crafty shops (in posh areas, where they will value your work properly) to try to get bigger orders? You could send out emails with your etsy photos for no outlay bar some time and googling.

Craft fairs are the worst unless you live in a ver trendy city.

NonnoMum · 28/04/2018 16:31

Following... some v good advice here!

HermioneWeasley · 28/04/2018 16:33

It sounds like you can’t afford your current house, and living rurally is very restrictive. Can you move to a cheaper house in a town where there might be some jobs?

Teatogo · 28/04/2018 16:35

Without meaning to be flippant but my guess is that your priorities are way out.

With £850 a month left over you should be paying the debt off way earlier than that.

But I suspect, like the lottery and the netflix, your not really committed to cutting your cloth to suit your budget. Your still living the life you want as opposed to working out the life you can afford. It's a massive mindset leap. The fact you can view the lottery and netflix in any way reasonable gives me real concerns for your spending generally.

TalkinPeece · 28/04/2018 17:01

Ah, MN Bingo strikes again !

Just move house - yup because that is ALWAYS and option for people with massive mortgages Hmm

squadronleader87 · 28/04/2018 17:51

I would think moving house is a red herring - fees for solicitors, estate agency, surveys etc mount up quickly.

However it should be possible to negotiate a new mortgage deal that could save you a chunk each month. You probably won’t be able to change provider but your current lender should offer you a no deal with no further affordability checks. I’m with Halifax and they do it. You could also see a (free) mortgage broker for advice.

Others have mentioned Sky, BT etc but if you are still within contract there will be a financial penalty for terminating early. Better to wait until those deals expire. Can you move onto a SIM only mobile contract?

Do you have an Aldi or Lidl near you? Could trim a bit more off your shopping and I find their fruit & veg to be excellent.

Good luck OP

crimsonlake · 28/04/2018 18:19

You say you don't buy many clothes, don't buy any clothes except for your sons. Shop in your own wardrobe as this is what I do, you would be amazed at what you have got. I have been cutting back and haven't bought anything really for 18 months, just wear what I have. As far as food goes if you are spending £100 a week surely you could almost halve that if you shop in the likes of Aldi or Lidl.

VioletCharlotte · 28/04/2018 18:36

I think you could definitely save £20 a week on food. Then cancel lottery, Sky and Netflix (keep BT). That's £140 a month saved for starters.

When you're able to get a job, this'll make a big difference. Is there anything you could do in the meantime? Local shop, dog walking, bar work maybe?

melonribenia · 28/04/2018 18:45

How old is ds? Would working and using child care help?