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45K in debt

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UsedToLoveMorrissey · 27/04/2018 13:47

Hello, i think i just need to get this off my chest.

We are £45k in debt. All unsecured, and no access to anymore credit and all in husband's name.

I don't work. I used to do well on-line and at craft fairs but that has taken a huge hit and I don't do fairs anymore as they are not worth it now where we live. I am learning to drive so I can get a job within school hours (we live in the middle of nowhere, 5 buses a day, if they bother to show up and times don't suit to get back for DS).

DH has a good job, but we live in Scotland and I think the rate has changed or the pension contributions have because DH is less £70 a month now. I cried when I saw this this morning.

We can make the payments but any spending above our food/petrol/school lunches etc and we end up in our overdraft so by christmas, we are £2k down. My craft sales at xmas pay this off thankfully, and pays for presents but the rest of the year is rubbish. I sell on Etsy so I dont have a website to upkeep, just the cost of listing each item and a small % in commission.

DS has a good job, but with less than £3k a month coming in, and £900 of to go purely on CC and Loans repayments, excluding mortgage and car (which DH needs because of where we live) we are struggling. Our food bill is approx £100 per month. That includes 1 bottle of wine. No smokes. I have coeliac disease so my bread is a bit dearer, but that's only one loaf a week. One pack of GF biscuits, no other biscuits and very little crap.

I'm not a good cook, we eat basic meals that I do cook from scratch. We eat meat once a week (either chicken or mince beef), we eat mostly salads with tuna/roasted veg and rice/baked pots/soups. We don't eat takeways (we live too far our for delivery). I get the shopping delivered from Asda as that works out at about 40p per week with the mid week saver. We go through about 20 eggs a week (DS and DH love them). Sliced Egg on toast is a favourite weekend lunch.

We eat a lot of fruit, which we do buy from M&S as that is so nice. I have found the delivered fruit to be poor quaility.

If I really try, I am sure we could shave about £10 of the shopping. But really, I cant see anywhere else to make the saving.

The issue somes to this: because we are making the payments, we've not missed one, the Debt website Step Change, are recommending a cut in spending accross the board but no debt advice as such because we can repay.

Also, DH has a job which he would lose if he was made bankrupt. We'd love the debt to be paid off, but we have no extra income, and we'd be out on the streets if were chose a debt soloution as we have no savings to get us through DS losing his job.

I'm prepared to accept the advice that we simply have to accept the situation, we can pay the debt, we have a house and food, but we have nothing else. Any clothes, hair cuts, days out takes us further in debt. It's getting us down and we are snipping at each other too. I'm probably about 6mth away from passing my driving test, and will be reliant on getting a part time job to help out. Until then, I'll keep doing surveys. Being a lurker on here, I have recently changed the CC repayments to a set amount, so that should reduce the balance so much quicker. Thank you t the poster who mentioned this trick.

Sorry for the moan. I know we are to a certain extent luckier than so many people but for 2 very unflashy, unshowy people, we sure have wracked up too much debt through poor choices years ago.

OP posts:
TalkinPeece · 29/04/2018 14:24

House and car insurance - I always use a google incognito window and buy as a new customer every year (with the same company) and reduce the renewal by about 25%

northbynorthwesty · 29/04/2018 14:28

@talkinpeace great tip! I’m going to use that next time... thanks

TalkinPeece · 29/04/2018 14:32
Grin It works a treat my Co op house insurance renewal was £500 - I got it for £350 car insurance with Direct line - their staff admitted that THEY do it Wink renewal down from £400 to £300
Tiddlywinks63 · 29/04/2018 14:34

Stop auto renewal op. I halved my car insurance this year (£248 to £125), house insurance cut by £134, changed utilities provider and saved £320 this year.
Go for supermarket Basics range when shopping and use eBay and charity shops for clothes.

Soundsgood · 29/04/2018 14:42

Halifax just gave me a renewal price of £275 for my car.

I rang up to say I won't renew. They said ALL insurance has rocketed in the past year Hmm

Confused.com quoted me £220 with Halifax.

Go compare quoted me £170 with Halifax. So I got that one yesterday.

Voluntary excess £0.

When I put in £250 voluntary excess, the quotes went up by £150 Confused

Anyway I also saved £10 by changing my job title. It's still relevant.
Thank you Martin Lewis for that tip.

TeisanLap · 29/04/2018 15:01

Im not in the Uk and dont understand why paying a CC debt by DD is better than paying by standing order?

Can someone explain pls?

Laska5772 · 29/04/2018 15:01

Sounds like you are starting to look a this more now.. do keep on with us frugaleers aftre to keep up th emomentom though.

Talkin I though I had a handle on most of the tricks by now but I've just learnt new something from you about google incognito windows! Thanks.. Smile

It doesn't matter how long you are doing thi,s OP , there's always good advice to be had from some of our resident 'experts' ..

Laska5772 · 29/04/2018 15:02

.. and its all the better if you can type better than I do !

PatsysPyjamas · 29/04/2018 15:02

I learned to drive at 36. Yes, I was cursing myself for not learning at 17, but it's never too late!

It sounds like you might be struggling with confidence in general? Eg not trusting yourself to fill in forms. I am not a very confident person and feel like that has held me back from lots of things I would like to do (which might remind you of a song, if you used to love Morrissey Grin). I am trying to get over myself a bit and just do the thing anyway!

TalkinPeece · 29/04/2018 15:09

teisanlap
The credit card standing order trick is about locking the amount you pay every month ....
follow the links I posted through to the spreadsheet and you'll see

its such a good idea that the Financial Regulator started suggesting it this spring only eight years after I did

UsedToLoveMorrissey · 29/04/2018 15:41

@Patsysinpyjamas - God I loved Mozza. He was my first crush, I knew every song backwards, not sure I could listen to them again now though.

Confidence has never been good, I'm a wallflower and actually, at my age, I've come to accept that's how I am and be fine with it. But this perimenopause thing - brain fog like nobody's business. I was recommended Evening Primrose Oil to help with other symptoms - costs too much so I didn't buy it.So, I'm not filling out any forms until I can have back up (and someone else to share the blame with if it goes wrong Grin) Keep going and just be yourself - I am finding it a bit freer to think that I can actually be myself and it's other people's problem, but I still can't stand up for myself. One step at a time

Incognito - that's a great tip. I wish the renewals were coming up but they are all in 6 months time.

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UsedToLoveMorrissey · 29/04/2018 16:26

Sorry, talkingpeace just saw your post. There is no fee with 4 of the 5 options. I'll look again though, with DH right beside me, but the row of figures with %s, dates etc, had nothing for fees apart from on one.

the link has timed me out but it was something like

option 1: 2.29% for 2 years, £749 fee cost £410
option 2: 2.29% for 2 years, cosy £4.18
Option 3: 2.35% for 3 years cost £420
Option 4: 253$ for 4 years cost £428
option 5 : 2.84 for 5 years cost £436

%s and actual savings approx but roughty as above. So I'm assuming the difference between option 1 an 2 was the fee was added in rather than paid upfront. Will look more closly at it tonight though

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Highhorse1981 · 29/04/2018 16:29

TalkinPeece

Can you explain the credit card tip pls ?

TalkinPeece · 29/04/2018 16:30

Highhorse
follow the link to the spreadsheets thread .... its all explained in great detail - including the actual spreadsheet - so you can see it in action

Highhorse1981 · 29/04/2018 16:48

Hi
Sorry would you mind posting the link please

Ticketsfrom · 29/04/2018 16:58

You know that you can contact a charity that deals with this? They negotiate with your creditors to freeze all interest payments. You then set up a payment plan agreed by the charity with your debtors to pay back monthly what you owe. They put you on a strict budget. And until your debt is paid off you won;t have access to credit of any kind ( except for a Credit Union for example.)
Going on this plan saved my relatives life, literally. Without it they were miserable, in a spiral of debt that they couldn't pay down properly.
It's not easy but at the end of the 7 years it took them, they were debt free and proud of what they'd achieved.

Ticketsfrom · 29/04/2018 17:00

I know you said Step Change said you're fine as you aren't missing payments, but you aren't. there are other charities who can arrange this for you. You need to ask for the help, Credit companies have no interest in helping out people who owe lots of money but son't miss payments.

Ticketsfrom · 29/04/2018 17:01

And you really do need to get a job asap.

TalkinPeece · 29/04/2018 17:09

ticketsfrom
Have you actually read the thread ?
Because telling her to get a job is almost as la la land as telling her to move house

Snog · 29/04/2018 17:12

Advertise for local work - gardening, ironing, cleaning, help for older people etc to try to get your income up ASAP
And look at home based working too - virtual PA, social media manager etc
You need to start earning and you don't need to wait to get a car to do it!

gassylady · 29/04/2018 17:20

What is google incognito? How might it help with the insurance etc renewals

TeisanLap · 29/04/2018 17:20

The credit card standing order trick is about locking the amount you pay every month ....
follow the links I posted through to the spreadsheet and you'll see

Thank you, I did have a look but I can’t see what it’s all about apart from deciding to pay a set amount off on a CC and sticking to your decision. It’s common sense. The bit that had me confused initially, and still does, is why it’s better to pay by direct debit over standing order. What’s the difference between the two. We don’t have the latter where I live.

TeisanLap · 29/04/2018 17:26

Sorry, in all honest none of it makes much sense.

May 2018 balance outstanding is 2930 pounds

June 2018 after paying 70 pounds balance outstanding is 7,718.92

How can that be?

TalkinPeece · 29/04/2018 17:32

teisan
you put your percentages in without hitting the percentage button .... I've put the sheet right for you

direct debit the amount drops by a little bit each month
standing order it doesn't
the impact is massive

gassylady
incognito window stops the sites using all of the tracking cookies on your computer to skew their prices
I ALWAYS use it when buying plane tickets