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MLM Bot Watch 36 - Those who think it's ok to tell white lies soon become colourblind

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ReformedBot · 18/02/2018 17:38

36 Lies to reel you in...

  1. They will tell you that you will have time freedom in this business. Two weeks later they will tell you the business won't work unless you do.

When it's a business event they will not accept excuses for you missing it and will set an example by missing their child's first birthday or telling you a story of how they once shit themselves in white trousers on the front row at success day because they were poorly but didn't want to miss it.... You will know quickly that the unspoken rules is 'no excuses on success day's.

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Spongebobette · 22/03/2018 10:07

Thank you for sharing @Mielabel

Sadly I think your story is not unusual

Not all bots have registered as a business, but those that have are searchable on the Companies House website.

If a bot is making income claims or you suspect that their flash lifestyle is a bit false, it’s enlightening to have a look

Spongebobette · 22/03/2018 10:15

Also, @Mielabel, you make an excellent point about sacrificing REAL career prospects at a time in your life that matters. Even if you work part time after having children, you are building up experience and skills that help you to make progress in your career later

By the way, I haven’t seen the #sacktheboss meme for ages.... it’s disappeared along with the claims for ‘willable income’

Spongebobette · 22/03/2018 10:17

...... because, if, for example, Yawnbrowbot decided to ‘retire’ because she has a huge downline, it would wither away very quickly.
Gotta keep recruiting!!

Twentytwentyhindsight · 22/03/2018 10:55

Yes, Mielabel, well done for coming out the other side, although I'd argue that you have actually emerged from the rabbit hole.
I am quite interested that you say it was reading hard cold facts that finally did it for you. When my OH dismissed my original concerns about the FL 'business model', and went down that route, I naively thought that the hard fact of her bottom line after a while would be more persuasive than my arguments, but years of relentless mindset indoctrination have made her immune to even that reality. I seem to remember one of those dreadful 'inspirational' quotes cropping up regularly on her feed after anyone may have tried to point something out to her, along the lines of "Those who want to see me fail are only armed with facts, I am driven by the unstoppable power of dreams"... I am glad you did not get sucked in that deep.

Mielabel · 22/03/2018 10:58

Yes I think the aspect of neglecting a real career path is often overlooked. I was targeted after graduating in a fairly niche subject which I was good at. But I fell hook line and sinker for the idea that I would be stupid for getting a regular J.O.B and was grateful I had access to this wonderful MLM company, 'proven' to work by the successful bots around me. For years I was convinced if I just listened to more trainings, did more, worked harder, recruited that 'unicorn' superstar, it would all have been worth it. If I didn't give up in 3-5 years I could travel the world, watch my kid grow up, never have to have a miserable life in an office.

In the meantime I didn't get a single full time job in my field because I was sacrificing my time on MLM. I thought it was sensible. Again loads around me were successful, so I thought. So I took part time retail and catering jobs, min wage, to pay the bills. I had nothing to live on, nothing to travel with. My friends in full time jobs were travelling to amazing places and I wasted most of my 20s watching them trying not to get jealous and convincing myself I was close and it would all be worth it. My CV and experience didn't matter did it- I was going to be successful on my own terms.

So you don't want to be faced with the reality you've been an idiot and wasted the best years of your life to get a good career and set plans for the future, right? I had a good education and prospects and threw it away living worse than I had left school with no grades, as if probably have worked up to a retail manager if that had happened. In my case employment was just not worth the attention as MLM would deliver. Sigh.

I'm in a full time job now, very happy, and in my chosen field which I graduated in. However I am on a entry level wage thanks to my lack of experience for the past few years. I bet employers wonder what on earth I'm doing. I'm being managed by someone 8 years younger than me and working with others the same age. They're great, but I wonder where I'd be now if my ambition and hard work had been left alone to be focused on my career rather than an MLM dream. Maybe i would have done the travelling I'd have wanted to, with paid holiday thanks to a full time job, maybe I'd have a mortgage instead of renting, maybe I'd have been able to afford to have a baby. I'm living as I should have been years ago and it will take me a while to catch up.

This isn't meant to be a sad post! I am VERY happy in life and so so glad things have changed for me. My job and finances are a million times better than before and I feel stable, finally. But I thought this was a good opportunity to expand on the harm MLM does long term to people's career prospects as it doesn't often get brought up.

sshuga · 22/03/2018 13:33

@mielabel I don’t think your last post is sad. Again, congratulations for getting out and for getting back on your path. It’s true the harm done to people’s career prospects isn’t often brought up, but that and the harm done to their personal relationships, are IMO the worst aspects of MLM. So much wasting of energy and opportunities while chasing “the dream”. My ex while not highly educated did have many skills and a personality which could have taken him anywhere he chose to go, if he hadn’t been lured into the immense black hole of MLM. @spongebobette, I’m in the US and not familiar with Companies House. Could you explain? Is this a government organization? I wonder if something similar exists here? The way these people can just make claims without any actual documentation is maddening and the fact that so many believe it despite the total lack of proof is beyond frustrating!

Spongebobette · 22/03/2018 13:39

@sshuga
Yes, it is the government, all companies must be registered and publish the names of their directors etc

Here's a link (no idea what the equivalent in the US is)

www.gov.uk/get-information-about-a-company

Twentytwentyhindsight · 22/03/2018 14:29

@sshuga - what you say is so familiar.
At the time my OH was pulled into MLM, we were having a major review of how to move forward following me being made redundant.
She had always expressed a strong interest in becoming a midwife, but lacked formal qualifications. I had calculated that my redundancy money could have covered the cost of her studies while my new, much reduced, income could cover family expenses for the duration. She chose the FL black hole.
She has missed out on the opportunity to develop a career in something she could have been really good at.
In the meantime, for eight years, the kids have missed out on otherwise attainable extras, such as one decent holiday a year, or us being able to move somewhere where they could have their own bedroom each.
These things are all on the ridiculous 'dream board' of things she was told MLM would bring her.
The irony is that they would all have been easily achievable had she taken on a minimum wage job (not that she would have been on minimum wages for any length of time, as she is competent and hardworking and quickly achieved supervisory or management posts in anything she had turned her hand to before).
A complete waste...

ArbunneHun · 22/03/2018 14:32

Our friend who was unceremoniously sacked by Ariiiiiiiiix is having a full on rant about how the legal odds are all stacked in favour of MLMs and how they can just terminate bots without warning and with no redress.

And the supercar she used to boast about and can no longer afford to keep has just been kerbed and there’s a £1k excess on her insurance.

Despite all the money she was allegedly earning at Ariiiiiix, she had to battle to cover the rent on her house last month - where did all that money go?

ArbunneHun · 22/03/2018 14:56

Has anyone got the inside info on Wig’n’Sleaze’s new car scam? A new car (taxed & MOT’d) every 2 years for just £50 per month, no credit check required...

If it sounds too good to be true...

cozietoesie · 22/03/2018 15:13

Then it is. (Too good to be true. Grin)

Twentytwentyhindsight · 22/03/2018 15:17

@ArbunneHun - it looks like 'privilege car club', it's a recruitment Ponzi scheme. You pay an annual fee, plus your £50 monthly, and once you recruit enough people, you get a car (value based on number of recruits) to drive, which remains their property.

cazzyg · 22/03/2018 15:38

Anyone else getting an advert for a mlm scheme at the bottom of the page?

Seems to be Zen8, which is Jeunesse Global....

sshuga · 22/03/2018 16:32

@twentytwenty, I am so sorry. Yes my ex had the same “dream board” list of goals that would have been easily achieved if he’d stuck with his J.O.B. or even devoted his energies to his actual own business. The wasting of people’s energy and time (while ripping them off) is a monumental element of the crime of MLM which makes it IMO unequivocally evil.

spanfan · 22/03/2018 18:17

Bradford bot is making lots of friends today. Grin

Apparently she is now an expert on depression. We should all just get on with it. Dr Bradford bot I reckon. 😂😂😂😂

Ladiva1971 · 22/03/2018 18:38

I saw that spanfan and she got an absolute roasting, and I don't mean of the coffee bean type. I am pretty sure at the end she says she is done with organo I think it is around the last 25 seconds.

miffytherabbit1974 · 22/03/2018 18:38

Yes, I'd noticed that too, spanfan. She has done a great job at alienating at least half of her downline! Clearly, what she understands about depression could be written on the back of an Organo Gold Coffee sachet!

Twentytwentyhindsight · 22/03/2018 18:49

Spanfan - she had to pull an earlier live where the audience were less than thrilled by the 'stop whingeing' school of dealing with depression, but then proceeded to carry on digging. Sadly, of all the bots whose antics are commented on here, she is the one genuinely most in need of help.

Ladiva1971 · 22/03/2018 18:54

She did get very defensive after a counsellor said that in her opinion Bradford was depressed and had anxiety issues. When I watch her lives, she does appear to be very down in the dumps, and as another person pointed out she was sectioned a while ago, so if depression is all in the head why didn't she just use her mind set to stop that happening?

Norma27 · 22/03/2018 20:16

Bradford is the one I do really hope comes through the other side well. I think she has a lot to deal with and has been totally manipulated. If she ever got in touch with Natasha shingles I think she would probably be a real help for her.
I know Bradford thinks we hate her but I think the opposite is true. Xx

SSDGM · 22/03/2018 21:31

I think for someone who threw an massive tantrum when called out for her own “depression” that could only have been cured by a holiday to Lanzarote she’s a massive hypocrite.

She’s ranting because her downline aren’t selling the stupid mushroom coffee enough without her acting like an actual supportive manager.

MLMsuperfan · 22/03/2018 21:42

Please remember what got thread 34 deleted.

spanfan · 22/03/2018 22:25

@superfan oh I know the risks. Her lives are completely open so i personally don't feel too bad.

I'm actually very concerned for her. Her lives are quite manic and I really hope she is as well as she says.

I shouldn't have added all the smileys and I do apologize for that.

Tw1nsetAndPearls · 22/03/2018 23:37

Bradford looks unstable in that video, I want to use manic in a non clinical sense. I hope somebody is looking out for her

Jonsey32 · 23/03/2018 00:18

I do too and manic is how I would describe it 😢