MLM Bot Watch 36 - Those who think it's ok to tell white lies soon become colourblind

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36 Lies to reel you in...

1. They will tell you that you will have time freedom in this business. Two weeks later they will tell you the business won't work unless you do.

When it's a business event they will not accept excuses for you missing it and will set an example by missing their child's first birthday or telling you a story of how they once shit themselves in white trousers on the front row at success day because they were poorly but didn't want to miss it.... You will know quickly that the unspoken rules is 'no excuses on success day's.

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It’s dove expensive. How many CCs is it?

*so expensive

Duck off, autocorrect 🤣

@ArbunneHun You forgot the Ponzi where she lost a lot of people a lot of money by dragging them into it.

She didn't 'lose her way', trading standards told her no more MLMing until they have finished investigating. They are taking a very long time about it, I hope that is a good thing.

I really hope her reputation is still remembered when she does come back. Her immediate downline from Valentus are not doing well in other ventures or those who are still in Valentus are not doing well, so it is possible she could drag those into another MLM.

Does anyone know what the outcome legally could be if Trading Standards find she has broken laws?

Dora, I totally agree with your conspiracy theory. Our favourite yawnybot has done a c9 about four times a year for the past few years, talking about how much weight she's lost, but the proof is in the photos. Photos from two years ago and now are no different - there's no shame in being curvy or overweight, but it's a bit rich to claim to be a weight loss guru when you can't maintain any losses you do achieve. I can't imagine how bad her metabolism must be after what, 9 years of quarterly c9s? That's 9 years of dipping between starving yourself and bingeing!

Didn't like Arbunne pointing out what she has done.

Does she think people have forgotten and she can make a fresh start?

I have two main bots who I check in on daily. Salon, and Broke. Salon to check she isn't scamming more people, and Broke in the hope he eventually gets out of MLM.

I don't think Broke is a bad person, he's not vicious, and he's not someone who you just wish would crawl back under the rock he crawled out of. He loves his kids and I truly believe he wants to succeed and give them a better life. If he won the lottery i'd be delighted. He may not always have done right by his partner, but he quite clearly adores his children.

Maybe i'm a bit naive here, and I know he has dragged people into his schemes and they have lost money, but I don't think he is a bad person, despite the criminal record. I believe he truly thinks that he, and all of his downline in the 78686 MLM's he's been in will make lots of money.

Salon on the other hand is not a nice person, from everything i've seen and read, and everything i've seen and read from those who have had contact with her, including her many many victims. She knew what she was doing. She lied to a lot of women to get them to make her money. A lot of those women are vulnerable and she took advantage of that.

I really hope she does end up in legal trouble for what she has done, both as punishment but also so she never ever does it again. She harms women.

I kind of feel the same way about various bots @Whiterangey.
Although the scourge of MLM is nothing but tragic in the effects it has on all those drawn in, I have in my mind a distinction between the 'comedy' bots, as personified by Broke, and the more sinister, manipulative types like salon.

It is no coincidence the former are running around in mindless circles, while the latter make money off them.

The comedy bots are totally taken in by the LoA mindset bollocks and the attraction marketing nonsense. The mindset stuff makes them incapable of learning from their experience, as they "shake off the baggage of past negativity" every time they wake up, effectively ready for another "exciting new journey" around the goldfish bowl. They are condemned to a life of repeated failure because they believe they have to keep the blinkers on to avoid negative thoughts.

In the case of the manipulative bots, they are simply basically unscrupulous scam artists who, in MLM, have found a ready made pool of desperate, vulnerable and consenting victims. Whether they refer to the LoA or not, they are wily enough to know that their money comes not from 'opening up to the Universe's positive vibes', but hoovering the pockets of their downline. They are also the ones who are savvy enough to project some sort of wealth and success in a more plausible way - as opposed to, say, Broke's celebratory banquets where he proudly displayed 20 quid's worth of Lidl shopping as being a signifier of the epitome of success (before anyone accuses me of snobbery, I shop at Lidl).

Basically, to have a chance of being among the tiny minority that achieve some measure of success in MLM (and it is vastly less than the level they project), you have to be completely unhindered by moral considerations or empathy.

Ah broke is the same as every other one, in fact he seems to go thru more mlms then the rest,seems to have a new one every month or two, and therefore every month or two he sucks more and more people into this shit, and takes more and more money off different people....

I've said this before but Broke's Ex seems to seamlessly slip from one Ponzi to another without a whisper of dissent on her posts. She's been involved in virtually every dodgy MLM featured on these pages since I started watching her when she was with Traffic Monsoon and LTW. Until recently she was claiming that Usi had paid for a holiday to Florida for her and her kids flying First Class. She's now ditched all mention of Usi and is by all accounts pushing Omnia and appears to be Welsh Bot's upline. People must have lost money but they're all singing her praises 🤔

More income claims from yawn. As if those poor mugs are going to be earning £2000 per month and even double that!

Omnia translates as 'wish' in Arabic and 'all' in Latin. Very apt for a crypto Ponzi scheme.

Yawn's income claims are arse-clenchingly embarrassing. Or arse-quenchingly embarrassing as she would put it.

I'd love to see stats on how many people the big bots have recruited (in their direct down line) and how many have been retained. Uber bot is the top business builder for Feb, I'd love to see how many are still botting in a year's time

hotelduvin I've found a few bots on FB with a team who have tagged their latest recruit who will be smashing it, sacking the boss, or want to make bit extra to titivate their eyebrows and suchlike. If you search the FB accounts of these poor, deluded souls a few weeks later most of them don't even mention Forever Fibbing / other grubby mlm scheme which suggests that they're not smashing it, they've sacked the bot, and their eyebrows are as luxuriant as ever.

This will likely only happen this once, but I feel really really bad for Yawn, terrible in fact.

It appears she has struggled with her weight since at least she started in FL, likely before that as well. She has been yo-yo dieting and using the FL supplements and C9's ever since.

She appears in a widely shared photo where she lost over 2 stone many years ago.

I saw a video where she added about 600 calories worth of peanut and coconut butter to a weight loss smoothie.

She doesn't appear to know how to count calories and eat healthily and that this has to be done forever. Weight doesn't return when you go back to a 'normal' diet. Your interpretation of a 'normal' diet was what caused the excess weight to begin with. Hence why you have to learn how to eat so that you ingest roughly the same amount of calories you burn each day.

C9 just encourages you to crash diet and yo-yo diet, it's not healthy.

With all the money she has spent on the C9's, which is likely thousands of pounds, she could have sought out a nutritionist. Or for no money she could just have stuck two fingers up at the world and not started crash dieting in the first place.

If you want to lose weight then lose weight, but do not body shame others into doing the same. I've seen her sell the C9 to women who obviously have a BMI under 25.

She obviously has poor self esteem bodywise, which is stupid. I don't like her, but there isn't anything wrong with her body the way it is. She should learn to love the way she looks instead of trying to change it with magic beans.

hotel where do I find that info, is it on the FL Facebook page?

Messiah is moving house- apparently he’s found his dream home. I’m sure there’s no other motivation to moving. None at all.

hotel ignore me, I’ve found it

Messiah must be feeling the pinch... still, he’s only renting an appartment in that massive stately home. For a great deal less than it would cost to rent a scummy one bed flat in zone 4 in London. You get a lot of visual bang for your buck when you’re renting in rural Northern Ireland.

OMNIA tech is being fronted by Moyn & Monir Islam in the UK. That’s right, the ‘top leaders’ in One Coin who pulled out just before it collapsed, saving their own investments and letting their downline take the hit. I think that tells you all you need to know about OMNIA.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/alleged-pyramid-scheme-onecoin-faces-11911858

So who was at the official UK launch of Privilege Car Scam yesterday?!!! Eeeeeek!!! Not very many people from the look of the desperate couple of lives I’ve seen! Never have I witnessed such a low-rent, embarrassing ‘launch event’ since the first Valentus one. Looked like a very low turn out, very cringey presentations. Even Wig didn’t do a live or post any pictures, despite promising/threatening to do so earlier in the day.

Poor Wig’n’Sleaze: not sure they’ll be getting their £60k car for £50 per month after all...

Hmmm - the Islam brothers were pushing Wor(l)d and the (not so amazing) Helo last year after they scuttled away from One Coin. I guess Cryptoponzis are their natural home. That would explain Wig 'n Sleaze attacking OMNIA as they were busy attacking One Coin when they were still in league with Broke and recruiting people into their superior level Ponzi schemes. They're so caaaaaring.

They really care about people not getting scammed. That’s why they were recruiting for GCC, USI, Cryptopians... and now Privilege Car Club. Their approach would appear to be to point the finger at other ponzis and scream “PONZI!” while knowingly recruiting people into their chosen ponzi. Classic sleight-of-hand distraction methods.

The term pyramid scheme is used a lot with respect to MLMs, but where income enters the pyramid through sales of products to non-members it does muddy the waters a little. The Privilege Car Club on the other hand is such an obvious pyramid scheme it's incredible.