MLM Bot Watch 36 - Those who think it's ok to tell white lies soon become colourblind

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36 Lies to reel you in...

1. They will tell you that you will have time freedom in this business. Two weeks later they will tell you the business won't work unless you do.

When it's a business event they will not accept excuses for you missing it and will set an example by missing their child's first birthday or telling you a story of how they once shit themselves in white trousers on the front row at success day because they were poorly but didn't want to miss it.... You will know quickly that the unspoken rules is 'no excuses on success day's.

Please add your own below!

UK MD (can’t remember his title) has really had to push the success tickets this year. Constant pushes, offering 15% off at some points.

Agenda hardly looks enthralling...

Anyone still in FBO groups know how much new starters are conned into parting with for this pack? ‘You’d buy it if you were serious about your bizzness Hun’

Cause these are the same teeth...............

twentytwenty love your observation!
"@Corblimeyguv - yes it does change peoples' morals. I thing the OP on this thread has got it spot on with the title. Not only are the bots lied to by the company, they are gradually dragged into a world where the truth becomes an increasingly flexible concept.
In FL, one of the first things you are told (and this is in black and white in a company brochure) not to tell people you are trying to convince to come to the weekly "business presentation" that the meetings actually happen each week- a way of bumping people into agreeing to come & not give them time to think it over).
Soon, you're in a world where stalking strangers in the street is "contact marketing", preying on vulnerable groups is "making sure they have a chance to benefit from the amaaazing product/business opportunity", projecting a false image of wealth and success is "attraction marketing", people asking you to stop harassing them are saying "not at the moment", friends become "prospects", those who express caution become "jealous negative-minded haters who don't want you to succeed", manipulative lies are "powerful business tools that will ensure your success".
Gradually, morality and truth are turned on their heads, and the victim becomes another link of deceit in the chain of exploitation (that they are still extremely unlikely to derive any benefit from...)."

Will keep an eye out Dora, I had no idea PMs were an issue too

@GoldenKelpie - thanks (although I can now see a couple of sloppy typos!), it is from close observation.

twentytwenty just caught up with this thread. Really sorry for what you’re having to deal with. I loathe all MLM but FL has a special place on the hated list. I’ve seen them very actively trying to target cancer patients (who were part of a patient group). There is a special place in hell for this behaviour. I’m sorry you’re having to watch someone who was close to you change into someone else. Sorry about your mum too and the behaviour you had to deal with at the time.

How can anybody be taken seriously when they describe themselves as an entrapeneur! Let’s do biznis!

Equally, if I want to do business with someone it sure as hell isn't going to be with someone who calls themselves #bossbabe, BusinessMama or Positivity Magnet.

Ha ha positivity magnet!!

I know!! Honest to god this is on this FL bots bio bit on fb

"Entrapeneur, Mum, Business Coach, Author, Fitness Freak, Positivity Magnet"
(Note - another Entrapeneur . As an "author you'd think she'd be able to spell)"

I've got a feeling she also had "property developer" on there too at one point - it seems selling your big house (when you relocate for husband's job) , downsizing for a smaller one that needs redecorating makes you a property developer

If someone is a positivity magnet, that would mean they are negative, surely?
Magnets only attract the opposite pole

You can see Yawn's bestie's take home pay (and Yawn's for that matter, maybe the Uber bots too) in Companies House under her business name (see the website address or the Facebook @ name of her business page for that). Interesting information on how much a top bot in FL actually takes away in assets each year... I wish all potential recruits checked these figures or knew how to.

I always just love the self entitled status these bots give themself. Pay £200 for a “business in a box” and their suddenly “entrepreneurs” ,, really ,is that what an entrepreneur is nowadays!!!! Scam another person into it,and suddenly their “business coaches”, scam people from abroad and their suddenly “international business coaches” with a global business!! FFS ,you couldnt make it up!!!

@Spongebobette - I have tried raising this (positive electric charges & negative electric charges, north & south poles of magnets) whenever a bot raises the ludicrous Law of Attraction, but their eyes just glaze over...

@Sean1984 - yes, my OH described herself as an 'international business owner' because her DM in Sweden occasionally bought some lip balm, and someone in the US sporadically bought a small amount of product through her. The irony is that the cheques in US$ were all for so little that it would cost her more to cash them here than they are written out for!

Broke bot building a Rapport totally annoys me.......Dunno about u guys.

I think a certain bot should be very careful boasting that she can afford to retire because she’s achieved everything she set out to and more
Because her company accounts do not show that at all

Next accounts due in 10 days, could be informative...

There is no way she can retire now, or in the foreseeable future, not while she is with FL anyway. Her current companies house figures cover the figures andChairman's bonus she got in 2016 which was the year she got a huge chairman's bonus.

Her figures for last year should be available on Companies House in the next two weeks and will cover her Chairman's bonus for last year, which was a lot less, over half less if I remember correctly.

The dollar was a lot stronger last year than in 2016 so that will help a little when the cheque is converted into GBP, but with a cheque half of what it was, not by much.

The figures shown are not enough to be able to pay for the type of lifestyle she portrays as it's the sole income in the household. I would not be shocked if there is debt or some remortgaging has been going on in order to be able to carry on with the appearance of a Champagne lifestyle on Prosecco money. Especially as her earnings are likely going to be a lot less than they were when the house was bought.

If you look closely her expenditure is actually quite modest. The flash cars are leased, not owned outright and paid with the FL car bonus I believe. Notice that when there was a leak or whatever to the house her husband fixed it instead of getting a professional.
There is nothing in the interior of the house that screams expensive. There are no expensive holidays and trips for the family multiple times a year.

Where it does get expensive is with all the training days and the hotel stays and keeping up appearances for those events and the expenses that come with that.

She can't even budget year on year because her income changes, and i'm guessing that this years accounts are going to show less income than last year. That is likely to keep going down.

If a lot less people have managed to qualify for cheques those that have could get more money, but we know that FL UK has had a drastic drop in profits, if that is true globally, then the share of the profits will obviously be a lot less.

I can't wait to see what the cheques show this year.

Seriously, why is it considered a good thing that you can multi task looking after family at the same time as delivering training? In any other profession, you would look totally unprofessional being distracted half the time rather than dedicated to delivering the training. And you yourself would surely just be frazzled trying to juggle both and doing neither well.

Disclaimer : I have once taken dc on a job but I was there in support of a colleague not leading and we were only in contact with external people for part if the time. It ifs not something I would choose to do again and I would absolutely not have done it if the work had involved teaching or presenting.

I wonder how successful a coffee shop in the centre of Bradford selling instant mushroom coffee could actually be...???

How many times can you touch your business (or probably tuch yur bizniz) in the pockets of time you have each day? Morning before school, break times etc.
Forget any rest time for you or even fun time or housework.

How do you touch your business anyway?