MLM Bot Watch 33 - Powered by Twunk's Yazoo: Tragicomic cultic wampum flogging scamalangadingdongs like Forever Living, Ariix, Herbalife, Younique, Juiceplus, LifeTreeWorld.

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The top bots also make money from training days, software packages, passion planners, success days etc. Most of them have other businesses, which are not mlm related, income from properties, partners with jobs ... but they like to make their downlines think their money is all generated by mlm schemes.

I wonder how many top bots' real businesses have been damaged by the stigma of network marketing?

So THANGbot is now in Milan and has made up with Mr and Mrs LipBot after slagging them off in several lives. From all accounts she is a struggling single mum who has recently lost a lot of money with Valentus and Xerveo. We all know the Milan trip isn’t exactly cheap and we all know that she won’t have brought in enough money from Organo to pay for it. So who is paying? Ideas anyone?

Mr plastic?

fitgirl26:

I've had similar thoughts about ThangBot and her friend (I'm not sure what her moniker is.)

As much as watching these folks repeatedly walk into the same MLM catastrophes again and again can be funny, I've got a depressing feeling that ThangBot will have begged, borrowed and metaphorically stolen to get herself over to Milan. I doubt very much that she would even have a credit card to max out in the first place (I don't use a credit card either, and my partner does only very, very rarely, so it isn’t a judgment call, I just think it’s unlikely.)

I noticed when, on a FB Live vid the other day, she opened her starter kit from Organo, with twelve sample sachets of mushroom drek in it, and she was preternaturally thrilled by its meagre contents (especially by the USB stick.) There was a horrible pathos watching this, because it just seemed like her expectations of life were set so very low. I didn't find it funny. It made me sad. Similarly, when she and her friend got to their hotel room (again, on a FB Live vid), she was a like the small child happy to get an empty giftbox for Christmas.

There's no doubt that this very short weekend away will have cost people so low down in that particular MLM food chain very dear. The Organo Gold site was still selling tickets for the event this morning and, as mentioned before, the accumulated costs of £200 plus on event tickets, hotel, flights, food and the rest will have stacked up. Bearing in mind that a day or two prior ThangBot was imploring people to "help her out", on a Live vid, by asking them to buy a week's worth of samples for eight quid (I can't remember off the top of my head how many people she was asking to take part, it might've been thirty or even more), it gives the impression that she doesn't have gazillions of bots in her downline as yet (if any.)

Forgive me for saying this, but ThangBot just seems to me to be credulous and gullible in the extreme. The "friend" that accompanied her to Milan strikes me as being rather more clued up and with it. They are both extremely cringe-inducing, but still it is all rather like being mesmerised by a car-crash in slow-motion.

Actually I’ve seen that GCC Guru Sleazebot had to cancel at short notice so I wonder if a deal was done?

I can't work out if Thangbot is on drugs, has bipolar, ADHD, or all three, she is just way too emotional. One minute she is slagging of Lip and Porche bot for going to Milan, because they paid for it and not been invited guests and Lo and fuckin' behold she is there too???? She needs to get a fucking grip!!! She just rambles on and on and on, she needs to find a proper job if she wants to make real money. I could go to Milan any weekend of the year if I wanted to because I have a real job. I am not a millionare and my job isn't 9-5 but I earn roughly £2000 a month which is more than Thang bot will earn in 6 months, and I don't work my arse off I just drink nescafe and pretend to look busy .

Forgot to add where is Stokeflatbroke bot? Why isn't he in Milan? or does his budget only stretch the UK? And is returnofthex like that great song Return of the Mack???

Passports are expensive when you’re broke.

I find it hilarious his ex, the reason he moved to Stoke, is now in his downline 😂

Also, how dare THANGbot slag off people for working in Tesco. At least they have an honest job! She will be happy when she’s earning £10k a month, apparently. And there are people in Organo who earn£1m a month too.
Yep, sounds like legit work right there.

I used to feel sympathy for the woman. Now, nothing. I want this stupid Organo caper to collapse too.

There are definitely top bots who do make a huge income from their FL downlines. And I'm talking tens of thousands per month. But that is probably only about 20 people in the U.K.

But you're right, once they have the huge downline and the so called celeb status at the top, they use that to their advantage and usually end up writing a book, or making money from outside sources. I will say, there was very little left from training days that they put on, as the rooms that they used were very expensive, and that money was usually used for the gifts and treats for their downline. But there's no denying that they all start up external income streams. Now why would they need to do that if FL was the gift that keeps on giving? I'm yet to find out about a single top bot who has been able to retire and live off their residual income. If they stop recruiting and working then their income drops. It's a fact. And if anyone tells you any different they are telling you lies.

Are we assuming that organo gold is all legit?
I don’t teally know how to check up on it.

On a side note, these threads are definitely working. People in the mlm world know about them now. And it will definitely put some people off joining. No doubt all the bottles have a response to give people now who might come across them, and will say that we are all haters and weren't successful. But we all know that's rubbish. More and more people are leaving who WERE successful, but realised what a messed up industry it really is. The manipulation into spending your own money to keep up the 'fake it til you make it' lifestyle is unbelievable.

If anyone is reading these threads, who has been approached about joining and MLM, and is considering it......DON'T!!!

You will end up working 12+ hours a day, in loads of debt, be alienated by your family and friends, have a whole new group of fake friends who you won't see at all if you're Kit making them any money, you will lose your evenings and weekends. You will have to pay extortionate amounts to go to training days (which come out of your pocket) It's really not worth it. But if you're ok with all of this, then go for it, but we will all be here for you when out decide that you just can't take it anymore.

Dora - there seems far fewer Success days in FL which means the numbers must have tailed off dramatically. One bot I follow was one of the big cheque holders but her company has been dissolved by the inland revenue. I believe these big cheques are genuine - hers was high £90k I think - so I imagine all that money was ploughed back into buying stock and expenses to keep recruiting. Yet she is still trying to recruit despite knowing all this. You must have to go through so much mental gymnastics to make it morally acceptable to yourself.

Does anyone know how top bots view people in their downlines who run real businesses alongside trying to sell aloe vera, magic beans, and so-called coffee?

I recall bots being told to tell stories along these lines:

"I was working 18 hours a day as a gym owner / graphic designer / shop owner and now I don't have to thanks to this amaaaaayyyyyyzzzzzziiiinnng opportunity!"

Yet isn't it funny how they're still running their own businesses (more than one in some cases) and the amazing opportunity isn't mentioned on their social media anymore. Those who aren't quite brave enough to admit mlm is all a big con (I'm thinking about Forever Living bots in particular) coyly mention the F-word once, or refer to a nameless "franchise" (which it most definitely isn't) to make it sound impressive and not pyramid-shaped at all - pm me for details huns!

I sincerely doubt that there are more than a handful of people who can make a good living out of FL
Presumably that's why the narrative has changed a bit recently, to 'extra income' 'cash pot for a wedding' 'pay for all the little extras' etc etc

I see from the latest leaderboards that some familiar names are missing. One has an alternative income stream selling gussied up planners and seems to have handed the baton to her brother..And the ex number 1 has her own 'coaching' sideline

HMRC were involved, Teenager?

I hope that you had some responses on Stella and Dot, Toobusy. I fear that, personally, I’ve not been involved with them.

Teenager - did HMRC dissolve the company? On what grounds? A lot of them have set up companies so does this mean that HMRC is closing these “businesses”or companies down?

Well.......if - say - HMRC or the IC have decided to take an interest? Oh Boy............

You can dissolve your own company too for any reason you like.

If HMRC were involved then it must be serious. Tell us more - we're all ears! A screenshot of the relevant entry on Companies House entry (the online beta version which is free to access) would make interesting reading.

How are organo gold/bots getting away with photoshopping pics of celebs and pretending they are endorsing the product? I would be suing the arse off them if it was me.

Claims of large earnings - or a lavish lifestyle which was potentially incompatible with declared income - could well attract HMRC interest, BS. And once they ‘take an interest’...........

When you say “take an interest” - apart from claims, and incompatible income against stated claims, I am keen to understand what would alert HMRC to take action? Why has this not been done before or at least muted? We don’t hear about this action - and remember it’s not just FL people with their own companies - other high earners in other MLMs must have their own - unless it could be prove that revenue also came from activities outside “the business”

You have to cease trading as a company if you become insolvent, ie if you cannot service your debts with your income

Who can tell, Rumple? HMRC work in mysterious ways.