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MLM Bot Watch 33 - Powered by Twunk's Yazoo: Tragicomic cultic wampum flogging scamalangadingdongs like Forever Living, Ariix, Herbalife, Younique, Juiceplus, LifeTreeWorld.

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DoratheExplorer17 · 13/11/2017 17:58

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DoratheExplorer17 · 20/12/2017 22:02

The 50CC and 75CC Club post was so interesting. It means only one thing. It means that barely anyone is in the 100CC club anymore. It’s just too much of a stretch for most bots now. And as a company they know that one of the things that keeps people from leaving is the love bombing recognition and ‘walking across that stage’. All for marketing purposes though as we all know just how many people were on stage a couple of years ago. This smacks of desperation to me. They’re terrified that as no one can achieve the 100CC club, that people will feel inadequate. They’ve introduced the lower levels to keep the bots in the recognition firing line.

For info 50CC (open business which the incentive is based around) is around £1000 of income for the month. The people who have lots of manager legs will be earning an income separately from those legs, but anyone going for the 50CC club, is unlikely to have managers yet or their business would be much bigger than this. And don’t forget that this £1000 is before expenses and tax etc so more likely to be around £600-£700 once these are taken out. That’s an ok part time income but if you’re stuck at that level, that is not the business that’s promised if you ‘work hard’

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cozietoesie · 20/12/2017 22:04

That was my - admittedly fast - reading of it, Dora. Smile

cozietoesie · 20/12/2017 22:06

Sorry. Your first para, anyway. (The second para, I'll have to defer to your knowledge on.)

Eddierussett · 20/12/2017 23:35

Dora does 50cc open business mean £1000 of sales then? I just can't imagine selling that much every month

DoratheExplorer17 · 21/12/2017 00:35

No 50CCs is from your downline. So
Other people selling and you take the % from those sales, based on their position the marketing plan. Generally most bots do 4-5CCs a month themselves in sales (around £200 profit) and the 50CC club is including those CCs PLUS the CCs generates by their team

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cozietoesie · 21/12/2017 00:37

'Garage Qualification'?

SSDGM · 21/12/2017 04:59

My Vida bot has gone back to Acti! No real details except that she “didn’t get what she was promised and neither did her team”. Strange as she was sacked from acti for fraud. Cue selling off all her Vida stock for cost price plus others commenting on her status saying they are selling it off at the same too. Vida has been very quiet recently, is this the beginning of the end?

ToucheEcat · 21/12/2017 07:04

So even as a successful manager in FL, it would be an achievement to earn 700 month - which is the equivalent of approx 100 hrs a month at minimum wage. Hardly the road to financial freedom and willable income they claim.

SSDGM - don't vida have huge compliance issues (like all the shonky weight loss beverage MLMs)

entrepeneur · 21/12/2017 07:44

Toucheeclat - yes the sad reality is that the average bot working around the clock would be lucky to make a living wage once all expenses have been taken into account.

As the bot's income depends on having lots of active sellers in their downline, it could all come crumbling down any second. It must be a frightening way to live, like a house of cards that could topple down at any given moment if the downline don't work hard enough and if the new recruits dry up.

ReformedBot · 21/12/2017 09:00

"Please take the time to get behind this post! XXX is being an absolute super star this month....8.5 month’s pregnant; very unwell in hospital 😢 and over 4CC active, with just 12.5CC’s to go until Supervisor is hers.

XXX why is huge and I know how much she wants and needs this.

Please boost her belief by throwing some love her way xxxxx"

Or...leave her alone she has bigger things to focus on right now!

Comments:
"Hope you feel better soon and congratulations lovely !!!

You can do anything you put your mind too x"

"XXX this promotion is yours lady come on!!!" - PHD Bot

"Keep going-you can do this!"

ReformedBot · 21/12/2017 09:10

To say am proud of you Amanda* is a total under statement!!!! Still recovering from major surgery at home, 20 ALOE lip's and a C9 sold the last hour and her very best friend joining January!!!

Amanda's why just got a whole lot stronger the last few week's when she is off on the sick for the 1st time in her 20 year's service as manager in A NATIONAL FAST FOOD RESTAURANT, she realises no matter where you are in the company your only just a number and they are only paying SSP!!! Disgusting actually, she is 100% committed to building her business and not returning to her job!!!

WATCH HER GO 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝

*NAME CHANGED

ReformedBot · 21/12/2017 09:19

"EXCITING!!!!!

Who wants to see what NEW products we are getting in 2018, and what is being replaced with a new and improved formula?

I'll give you a hint..... THE MASCARA IS FINALLY COMING BACK!!!!! AHHHHH!

Watch below for more info!!!! "

Yes the mascara that went 'out of stock' at the end of 2015. It WAS a brilliant mascara and a good seller for me (NOT Younique style!!) but it went out of stock then there were lots of excuses passed down of why and when it would come back in stock until everyone stopped asking and forgot about it.

It was being reformulated.

This is a great opportunity to introduce your customers to other products.

Offer your customers the BLUE mascara as it isn't very blue.
^^
There was a mistake in the batch and Forever didn't want to release a bad batch (aren't we lucky they take such good care of us!?)

It will be back in Feb, then March, then April etc.

We were strung along - I guess because the fallout of a top selling product being discontinued wouldn't have been good for Head Office Angry

ReformedBot · 21/12/2017 09:21

"When you put training into practise....slotting business cards into library books"

ReformedBot · 21/12/2017 09:43

Well this is a surprise.

Castle it wrote a book?! Funny she never mentioned this before.

Skip the ClickFunnrels and download here

eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Femmacooperglobal.us15.list-manage.com%2Ftrack%2Fclick%3Fu%3D132482fed82405d5033ada7ea%26id%3D75fb90a30b%26e%3D2f69217ceb&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0eb532dd0f7d4528ced908d54856d9f8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636494460216327424&sdata=dKfLKisZu8c1nSO5l4ECP97rLNASTZc707qW6qxOwI8%3D&reserved=0

DID YOU KNOW I WROTE A BOOK??

While in my first full year in Forever I have no idea how but I wrote a book.

I'll never publish it publicly but i'd like you guys to have it & your new starters. For free of course.

Sign up to our new eagles team website mailing list and receive my book for free!

entrepeneur · 21/12/2017 09:46

What does the bot mean by "It will be back on Feb, then March then April?"

Their posts are so confusing!

ReformedBot · 21/12/2017 10:01

Re:Feb, March etc. That was what we were told. False promises of the mascara coming back into stock with a date that kept getting pushed back. I wanted to put these bits in italics as they were what the top bots were promising us but the italics didn't work and I cannot edit the post:

"It was being reformulated.

This is a great opportunity to introduce your customers to other products.

Offer your customers the BLUE mascara as it isn't very blue.

There was a mistake in the batch and Forever didn't want to release a bad batch (aren't we lucky they take such good care of us!?)

It will be back in Feb, then March, then April etc."

I have just shared some of the posts from a major FLP team page to give people an insight into the current issues and techniques in FLP. They are not concurrent because they are posted by different people about different topics.

Does that make everything a bit clearer?

entrepeneur · 21/12/2017 10:07

So the company is just trying to hype up the mascara or did it never actually come back in stock?

ReformedBot · 21/12/2017 10:14

It never came back into stock but it is being relaunched in 2018. Its discontinuation in 2015 was never really confirmed and we were led on for at least 6 months about it coming back into stock!

ToucheEcat · 21/12/2017 10:36

what struck me most about the posts you quoted, Reformed Bot, was the faux outrage at a company only paying SSP - when FL pay you diddly squat when you are unwell. and working whilst recovering from major surgery is seen as something to encourage Hmm

SpecialAgentDaleCooper · 21/12/2017 10:50

That's shocking how people are not only encouraged to work but have to work whilst in their sick bed. Sad

If they don't they will have their upline on their backs and it could all come tumbling down.

Toobusytowee · 21/12/2017 11:40

USI- Tech, one of the crypto currency MLMs has been in a lot of trouble recently with licensing issues. Now a Facebook page has been set up with upto date information. If anyone has an interest in USI Tech, have a look at www.facebook.com/Usi-tech-scam-page-303785166766536/

Thanks for the encouragement on the new webpage. Elle Beau and others did more on it than I did.

ReformedBot · 21/12/2017 12:43

Rex's Christmas Message

Rex’s Message - Slow down with nature
It’s a well-known fact that consistent work, putting in the hours and tireless attention to your business directly correlates to achieving more. I understand, part of keeping the momentum going means you may be looking at your phone more often than you probably want. It may feel like you are constantly going, never getting a break. While it seems like nothing slows down, nature, on the other hand, has a special way of slowing down time for us.

As a young boy growing up in Idaho, I remember taking the time to be still and observe the magnificent nature around me. I loved the outdoors and the energy that filled me when I sat and looked out at the sprawling blue sky. It was during those times that I came to understand and respect the lessons that nature provides – community, freedom and destiny.

It’s amazing how small one can feel while sitting in the woods. Sitting by myself I would watch the birds, animals and insects interact and listen as the breeze rustled the leaves in the trees. Although I felt small, I realized that I was a part of a bigger whole. Like the birds, the ants and the trees, everyone has an important part to play in our community. What we do, directly impacts the other parts. That’s why I believe in the importance of conservation and environmental protection.

Of course, the Eagle has always provided a symbol for freedom for me. I used to enjoy watching them spread their wings and glide effortlessly through the sky. Just as these birds take a leap, we must also let our feet come off the ground to take leaps of faith to find freedom. Sometimes, it’s just about having the faith, letting the wind carry us, and letting go of our safety nets.

If you’ve ever sat down in nature and found a source of water, you probably noticed the natural current that flows. No matter what rock or debris stands in its way, it pushes through to get to its ultimate destination – maybe to a large gorgeous lake or even to the vast ocean. Going against the current wouldn’t be easy, but sometimes we create resistance by not having belief in ourselves or not letting our destiny unfold. We must let go of that resistance and have faith in knowing that it will get us to our ultimate destination.

Coming up to our Global Rally in Dallas next year, I encourage you to experience nature and observe its lesson for yourself by visiting one of the Forever Resorts properties in the United States. As you plan your time here, be sure to book a trip to one of our resorts. There are so many different experiences you can have, from taking out a houseboat on a scenic lake and going on a river rapid adventure to seeing one of the spectacular canyons in Arizona or Utah.

Take the time to step outdoors and seek adventure. You owe it to yourself to slow down a bit when you get here!

Forever Yours,

Rex Maughan

Of course what Rex isn't mentioning when he gushes about the Eagle is that the logo was originally a Seagull representative of Jonathan Livingston's Seagull and later changed to an eagle because of a lawsuit...!
casetext.com/case/bach-v-forever-living-products-us-2

Tw1nsetAndPearls · 21/12/2017 12:55

Yawnbot has posted this:

Algorithms - if you’re not networking, no one can see your posts

If you post too much in groups you get banned for a period of time

You can get your account suspended, with no way of contacting them to argue your case
I
could go on

If you just use it lightly for keeping in contact with family and friends, you’ll be fine xx*



So basically if you use FB for its intended purpose it is fine Grin. Is FB trying to crack down on MLM? I have no idea if this is true.

Whatsaldigottodowithit · 21/12/2017 13:18

Minimum order value reduced. Interesting

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cozietoesie · 21/12/2017 13:42

Out of interest, how much is said mascara?

(I do hope it's not .......elderly 'lumps'.) Wink

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