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MN Matched Betting society - all the profit, none of the gubbings!

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MissFitton · 09/11/2017 18:57

Previous thread here

All welcome. Matched Betters old and new for oddsmatching chat, top tips and tales of ballsed up qualifying bets....Grin

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ThroughThickAndThin01 · 29/05/2018 19:28

Think I’ve got it! If lay odds of two horses multiply to less than the back odds then it’s worth doing. Lay the first horse to cover any losses if it doesn’t win (so £10 at back 11 and lay 2 say). If it loses, don’t do anything else. If it wins, lay the second horse. Hope that sounds right.

Also, have been really tempted to throw a small mug bet £5/£10 a at “back two horses (or trainer or jockey depending on the offer) to win out of 5 or so races that evening” and just risking it as seems probable this bet will win. Is that just classed as gambling and I really shouldn’t be doing that as a matched bettor.

Hope everyone else is doing well.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 29/05/2018 19:29

Xpost titchy that would be really helpful, thank you. I’ll get the figures.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 29/05/2018 19:39

titchy £10 (would have gone to £25 as that’s my normal sort of stake if I had had the confidence) @ back odds of 15. The second race horse currently laying at 1.91. The other high at the moment but as second favourite hope that by Friday it comes down a lot 🤞🏼so could you give me figures say based on 4?

Thanks so much for any help, really appreciated.

titchy · 29/05/2018 20:21

OK so assuming you're on 0% commission (ie using Smarkets / Oddsmonkey offer), then first horse back at your original stake of £10 (or £10 plus 2% or 5% depending on commission.

If it loses then yes don't do anything more - you've made your original stake back, so not lost anything.

If it wins then at lay odds of 4.0, you'll lose £30 in liability at the exchange.

The next lay you want to make sure you cover your original £10 stake, plus your £30 loss of liability from the first race (plus commission), so laying £40 (or £40 plus 2 or 5%) again just covers your costs if it loses.

Laying £40 at 1.91 costs £36 in liability if it wins, but if it does win your back stake wins £140 overall giving you a profit of £140 less £36 liability from race 2 and £30 from race 1, so £74 profit.

You might want to guarantee profit regardless of outcome, so if you layed say £80: if horse wins race 2, your profit would be £140 less £30 race 1 liability less £73 race 2 liability, so £37 profit. If horse loses race two your profit is £80 less £30 race 1 liability less £10 original stake, so £40.

Hope that's right...!

titchy · 29/05/2018 20:22

Sorry first para should say LAY first horse at stake value.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 29/05/2018 20:49

Ah that’s brilliant thank you. I’ll give it a go and actually make sure my workings are correct. And if they’re not, try and work out why not. I’m sure this double win boost thing could potentially be a big money earner if done properly.

shortaris1 · 03/06/2018 15:15

Hi all, quiet on here. I had a break from MB but back now. How's everyone doing?

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 03/06/2018 17:30

Not well I don’t think. I’ve got loads out on the football World Cup so can’t calculate my tally effectively, but I think I’m doing rubbish. I do not understand how people are making 10’s of 1000’s.

titchy · 03/06/2018 18:18

I've branched out into low risk casino having been gubbed from Bet365 - which was gutting! There's a great OM thread on low risk which is enormously helpful, so I'm still managing to get over £500 a month.

If you find it hard to include exchange bets in your running total, you add together your exchange potential profit, liability and balance to your bookie balances, adjust for deposits and withdrawals and that's it.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 04/06/2018 10:02

In Betfair Exchange I can keep track of bets layed, but can’t seem to find them in Matchbook!

I’m definitely in profit overall having done really well on about 12 sign up offers,, but I’m not increasing them, just seem to be turning over the same money now. I seem to be throwing money in qualifying losses at racing matchers which just aren’t working. I had £50 of free bets at Bet365 for the derby which was handy, but free bets seem few and far between. This isn’t going to make me the income I had hoped for.

Although I haven’t done slots or casino stuff yet, it’s like a foreign language to me.

How’s everyone else doing?

shortaris1 · 04/06/2018 10:32

I made about £1400 in less than three months throughthickandthin but a lot of that was casino stuff. Dabbling since Saturday and up £25 already. Do you use Team Profit? Their lunchtime blog is fab.

LunaDeet · 07/06/2018 06:25

I have only signed up for my fith welcome offer so far. I’m too nervous to bet on anything but football and the international friendlies have pretty terrible odds. Having said that, William Hill are amazing! I’ve had so many free bets from them, and won £35 at a the rainbow riches casino offer last week after wagering. I can easily make £100 a month at this slow pace and I’m really enjoying it.

LunaDeet · 07/06/2018 06:33

I feel like I might be missing something with the weekly betclubs - bet £25 get a free £5 bet every week. My qualifying losses on a £25 bet just wouldn’t make it worth doing. I don’t use Oddsmonkey yet so maybe once I get to the stage when I’m relying on weekly offers I’ll be using an oddsmatching calc to make it worth while.

I love free spins! No risk, a bit of math to work out the wagering and just pure luck.

I wonder if they’ll be any decent offers today with the England friendly tonight...

JustGettingStarted · 08/06/2018 02:19

My husband is disabled and has been doing online surveys for Amazon vouchers (when the survey sites actually pay out!)

He's meticulous and loves numbers and spreadsheets. I can afford to bankroll a few hundred to get started. He's still very skeptical about it.

Most of the information I've found has been very rah-rah, but I have read a few hints that matched betting is starting to dry up.

If he puts in several hours a day, and has the startup money to go at it properly, do you think he can make £1,000 a month? Or are those days over?

I'm also willing for him to set up a second account in my name (I don't have the time or patience for this although I grasp the concept). I think we can avoid gubbing by using different ISP'S on different devices.

titchy · 08/06/2018 07:53

I certainly think £500-£1000 is achievable - and £1000 plus if you add low risk casino (read about EV first though). Subscribe to OM and go for it. Lots of World Cup offers around atm so be quick - but only do it once you know what you're doing.

JustGettingStarted · 08/06/2018 11:21

He's currently opening up a new bank account!

We're going to be putting money in in the next few days and he should be ready to start rolling by next Friday.

mamahanji · 08/06/2018 13:34

There's another thread calling us all gamblers and kidding ourselves that this is risk free...this is one of those times where there's no point saying anything because people refuse to listen.

£6.7k in 7 months. That's not luck.

JustGettingStarted · 08/06/2018 13:44

It was that thread that got me to look into it!

I have known about it for years. Saw it on MSE forums and assumed it was too complicated.

I wish I could go back in time to when I was stuck at home with small children, living in the Highlands. The only money I was able to make was cleaning holiday cottages on Saturdays during the tourist season.

shortaris1 · 09/06/2018 23:38

What's the thread mamahanji

mamahanji · 10/06/2018 09:51

I can't find it now. I didn't comment or watch it as it just annoyed me the shit people were saying about us dirty gambling idiots.

It was something about someone having a lot of credit card debt to clear and asking how to clear it.

JustGettingStarted · 10/06/2018 10:08

I can't find it, either. We may be talking about different threads.

Someone asking for advice on how to get a couple thousand pounds within a month or so.

mamahanji · 10/06/2018 16:32

Actually I think that was it. Can't find it though

MissFitton · 10/06/2018 19:50

Evening MB'ers I fell off the thread!

I'm still plodding on and still haven't finished the signups but have crossed the 4k mark so happy with that.

World Cup is looking promising although I do seem to have a lot of my exchange tied up with Outright betting.

Had a very frustrating weekend with the WH bonus - was £80 up yesterday and £270 up today and despite attempting the last spin loophole I ended up with £20 each time. Not to be sniffed at of course but it could have been so much better....

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JustGettingStarted · 10/06/2018 21:18

My husband is getting his head around things pretty quickly! He's clever with this sort of thing so I think he will be a natural. I'm hoping to be able to put in a couple of hundred this week.

There should be offers all throughout the World Cup, right?

Other than football and horse racing, what else do people commonly bet on?

titchy · 10/06/2018 21:49

Football and horse racing, and errrr more football and horse racing! Sometimes rugby or cricket or golf - but the later two tend to take days to play so you're money is tied up for a while.

But don't do obscure teams or sports - that's how you get gubbed! (Banned.)

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