MLM Bot Watch 29 - Come and join #teamdannii! We are #disruptivebydesign and now powered by Timeless Vie's #skinnylard

[acatcalledjohn]

Previous thread here

Will follow up with links shortly. In the meantime this is especially for spongebobette

No need to apologise, Mrs.

I'm afraid that I'm pretty - perhaps overly - cynical about all these 'disclosures'. I feel that they're meant to encourage 'instant rapport' between the person writing them and some of the people reading. (To be followed up in person over cups of coffee.) They also serve a function in welding the writer closer to the MLM. ('It wasn't until I joined XXXX that I could let this all out in the open' etc etc.)

That is a difficult one, lasagne. The books can be bought at mainstream shops and online and are books. (Equals nice and wholesome.) They seem to have a stream, though, which is more aggressive and 'opportunity' driven. I have a vague memory that one of the contributors to an early thread here had experienced some serious pressure from what can only be described as an adherent.

I'm a huge - I mean massive - fan of books but I don't think I'd allow a company where your wellbeing depends only on the attitude of the person concerned. You could always read what botwatchblog has to say about them before you decide, though.

Just listened to stokeflatbot latest video. he states "I am goin' to be building a phenomenal team like I do every time I join sumfin. Doesn't he see how incongruous this statement is? Every new MLM he promotes starts exactly the same way and he bigs it up and spouts off all sorts of alleged health benefits about the products. It's all bollocks of course and, eventually he will become disenchanted (again) and move on to the next MLM.

He clearly doesn't see it.

OK I'll delete the Usborne post. Those books are so easy to acquire on the cheap at Book Warehouse etc, so no idea who would pay full whack for them, especially at an online Facebook party where you don't even get free nibbles and wine!

I actually don't much like 'party selling' either - you feel under an obligation to buy something for the sake of your host, even if you can ill afford it or could source it cheaper elsewhere. That's just me though.

Oh it's a shame Stokeflatbot ha learned about privacy settings, I loved his live posts! Thought him doing a proper job and leaving mlm altogether was too good to be true...

The latest MLM company, Safegirl, sinking to new lows by exploiting victims of bullying and domestic abuse and targeting organisations who exist to support victims of violence.

The products they promote are available at a fraction of the cost anywhere else. The women they are pursuing to become bots and lose money are particularly vulnerable. I am so fucking angry!

Sorry here is screenshot...

I have found the fb women's aid page and posted this comment on their visitor post section...

I have posted the above on the fb Kidscape page and Victim Support too.

That's awful MyCats. A new MLM low. Using the names of these amazing charities to further your own ends. It's clear from their vague wording that they haven't been given the nod by these charities at all and are just hijacking their logos.

I hope they are told to stop immediately. They ought to be ashamed of themselves.

Not your own ends, obviously. Their own ends.

Have you seen the petition Timeless Vie have created? They are trying to get a 'no MLM contact' list for Facebook etc so that people can register and not get spammed by MLM. Here it is in case you want to sign- www.change.org/p/facebook-we-want-a-do-not-contact-list-for-mlms?recruiter=408695791&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition

Thank you, Toobusy.

Yep, that Safegirl MLM is really terrible. Another element: those bots could easily find themselves in a position of having DA disclosed to them and I can't imagine there'll be much risk assessment and safeguarding awareness going on. Imagine a vulnerable person disclosing this and being sold the 'turn your life around through MLM' message while the risk remains high. How is it empowering to get lost in the financial abuse of MLM or to get sold a 'cute' pink rape alarm Am tweeting furiously...

mycats I loathe Arbonne, had the same thing with a teacher at my children's school. They turned up at the school Christmas Fair too but had a lonely time of it because, of course, in the cold light of day it's overpriced and impossible to compare with other brands as one would on the high street, so no one bought. The angle I took with the school was that having a bot in the school who was a teacher was a data protection breach as the school could not be certain she wasn't furthering her contacts using school info (parents' contact details). This put the wind up the head and she isn't allowed to bring product into school and Arbonne or any other MLM is not allowed to trade on school premises.

Good for the school. It's quite right though - even leaving aside any DP aspect, a 'teacher' is a respected person in parents' eyes so would be more likely to be listened to. (Like medical practitioners etc etc.) Managing to inculcate one of these would be a fair coup for an existing adherent. Lots of luvverly contacts.

Here's a meme summing up Empowerment Safegirl style

Oh for Goodness Sake.

'Sponsoring is simply offering others the same opportunity that was offered to you. When you introduce a new Sister to the business, you will earn a Sponsor Bonus based on their PBV for any one month in which you also meet your monthly qualifying PBV requirements. This is in addition to your Sales Bonus.

There are three levels of Sponsor Bonus based on your team’s productivity:

•   <strong>*1st Level Sponsor Bonus:</strong> 4% of your Sister’s sales if your PBV is £300 or more
  

•   <strong>*2nd Level Sponsor Bonus:</strong> 2% of your second downline’s sales if your PBV is £300 or more'
  

Note the 'Sister' bits.

The 'sister' bit isn't just being silly, it's the official title given to their bots. They don't have titles for men. Is this discriminatory I wonder?

I just don't know. Legally that is.

YouOK I have a dilemma about this teacher as she sent a round robin email to all staff last year saying that products were available in staffroom to borrow, just let her know. I possibly should complain to HT about this but haven't so far. Sigh. She hasn't yet personally mentioned it to me, possibly she has heard that I am negative.

Not last year, last week sorry.

I'd complain now.

Well - 'mention warningly' at least.

Can you send the HT links to eg Timeless Vie and botwatch as well?