MLM Bot Watch 29 - Come and join #teamdannii! We are #disruptivebydesign and now powered by Timeless Vie's #skinnylard

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Previous thread here

Will follow up with links shortly. In the meantime this is especially for spongebobette

Here is a clip from Botwatchblog about Saivian.

It is supposedly a cashback scheme where you register your top 10 retail sites and a pay method. You then have to send copies of receipts to Saivian to get 20% cashback. You have to pay $128 every 28 days to be a member in this scheme. This means you have to spend $625 every 28 days to break even. Never fear though, just recruit people to earn money off them. You can just recruit people and pay your fee, you never need to use the cashback scheme at all. Hmmmm. It is only available in the USA. Everyone else can just join the global option where you get cashback for travelling.

There are two links on the blog post about this MLM and one of them calls Savian a pyramid scheme.

I wonder if people in the UK can do the full scheme now? Off to investigate.

I can send you a link to a bot who shares live videos etc, toobusy?

Fab news that Great Run have decided to cancel the sponsorship deal with Herbalife! Very glad I don't have to tell a stranger to shove their rubbish shake powder up their arse No thank you On Sunday!

Just visited the Savian website. A few things have changed. People can join anywhere in the world. But als a few worrying things have altered. People can only start withdrawing their cash 30 days after joining. Which, by then, it will be too late to change your mind and get your joining fee back. It is no longer 20% cashback, but 'upto 20%'

Yes please SSDGM.

I was also about to mention about the great North Run. That's amazing news!

Oh SSDGM that's fabulous news

Where can I see this news?

On twitter, Sponge

I'll drop you a dm, toobusy

Ah was just coming on to mention the GNR stuff lol

Just watched one of my local-ish bots last "live"-she rants on and on about "slating" other MLM's and carries on even when her poor child has banged his head and is crying. She just rants over the crying.

Has the in-fighting amongst bots always been this bad? It seems to be getting worse by the week.

Ah yes I've just had an email re the petition

Savian sounds like a shitty version of a Quidco, or TopCashback, both of which are free to join and have a hell of a lot of retailers. I pay a fiver a year to be a premium member at Quidco and have made over £800 since Sep 2013. About £230/year. How is that sustainable in a membership scheme?

Some body talk Stokebot down. From his latest post it would seem he's considering jacking in his new J.O.B they he hasn't started yet in favour of some scheme done high up mlm leaders have spoken to him about. Painful and sad to read

He's just trying to drum up interest.

Interesting what Stokenotnis saying about 'paid positions'. He says this is where MLMs pit someone in a vacated spot so they can immediately start earning from the instant downline. We suspected that sort of thing went on. It explains how people new to a company earn a lot of money quickly.

Definitely explains Salon Bot and her rise to glory at Valentus. Making "thousands" straight away from an unheard of product? Nah.

I think it's pretty obvious that's what happens. They must target people with large "networks" (lots of fb friends) as a way of launching the "business" with an audience of people already susceptible to falling for these schemes. Salon bot, for example, is heavily made up, hair always done, nice clothes, supposedly decadent lifestyle-her followers will basically do whatever she tells them to. They're like MLM celebrities.

Yes. Traitor-FL-now-Ariiix-bot did this, took a huge downline with her. She and the owner did a video protesting that she'd been paid nothing to join the new company

She might have been paid nothing sponge, but she will be indirectly paid if she is slotted in near the top and creams off other bots' recruitment and purchasing efforts. Especially if she drags her followers with her.

I have considered joining an MLM to get inside and see what it is like. Kind of do an undercover investigation. Go to conferences etc. But I couldn't even bring myself to do it because of how seedy and exploitative the whole thing would be. I wondered about getting some people from MN to come with me to make it look real but that just doesn't sit right at all.

I can't even join in a pretend way. That people are doing it for real horrifies me. I really think they must have no idea when they first join and they become altered by mind control techniques. When they realise what is going on, they either leave and think they've failed, or they are doing well and start exploiting people on purpose. (With their new altered personality).

This is how I think it works anyway. I don't believe there are good, hardworking people who follow the rules and become successful in MLM who then coach people to do the same. It is a fantasy.

Well I'm just plain confused on which thread is which now.

Me too cozie

I guess we go with this one? (It's longer and it was started earlier.)

Yeah I think so! The 2 other new ones have the same title as 28 top.

The words "CLINICALLY PROVEN" told me exactly which ex Traffic Monsoon/LTW/Valentus Bot wrote that post! Can't believe she's trying to flog her stock of worthless coins to her downline. Well actually yes I can. So I guess that's a bit more of the redundancy money gone then eh? Hope she can carry on affording the convertible and the "castle" for her and the Princesses.