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Thanks Cozie and I'd go with frightening to be honest. Very, very frightening.

UNO appears to have several offshoots/parent companies which I'm trying to get to the bottom of but it's like unravelling spaghetti.

I know my posts don't affect the UK (so far as I've found) but they do affect other human beings around the world and I'm still very interested in the USA link.

spongebobette I started to become miserable with it all. I was trying to get to manager and had a plan of contacting 5 people per day about the opportunity. Most ignored me or weren't interested. If they said no, I didn't want to pester them in a few months to see if they'd changed their mind (I was told to do this) put it in your diary to contact them again. *I didn't contact them again.

I developed a small team but you had to be positive about everything (spew problems upline not downline) Don't let your team see you're struggling. It felt so fake and I felt I had conned people afterwards (at the time I thought I was doing the right thing, I would be changing mine and their lives)

You attend online trainings and success days and spend money on travel and products for people to try. Oh and don't forget to be your best customer. It became exhausting and it was all I thought about. Oh and if you're out and about in town, don't forget you can approach people, giving them a compliment and connecting with them, (I only did this a couple of times and was genuine about what I'd said to them) but in the background you're hoping you can talk to them about the opportunity. It actually made me very miserable. Even my partner noticed a change in me.

When I realised I wasn't making money and actually losing it, trying to get my 4cc's to be paid on my team (don't forget you have to lead from the front, if you want your team to succeed and do 4cc's each month then you should be too) I knew I had to stop and take a step back.

I'd also been told in a roundabout way that it was all smoke and mirrors and it was like some of my upline only really spoke to me when I was doing 4cc's (don't get me wrong some of them are lovely but I wish I had know them away from FL)

I started to do a little google search and these threads popped up. I must look back and see when I first commented but pretty sure it was about thread 2 or 3? I also chatted a lot to 'the one who sees' and was great to get that side of things and see out of the FL fog.

What I hate reading on social media are the comments of people (within mlm) saying they don't understand how people lose money and if you follow the plan and don't give up you won't fail. That's just not true, no matter what they say

Very interesting to read your comments Ray

thank you for sharing that, ray

I wonder if my FL bot is secretly miserable. Oh dear :-(((

Thanks for that insight, ray.

Probably, Sponge. Or she will be when she 'wakes up'.

Ray you really do have the most appropriate user name. Thank you for sharing your experiences with us.

MLMs can't allow the UK market to collapse overnight, CAM - it would be just terrible for them reputationally - so they'll likely try to prop them up for a bit. New - hopefully (for them) less aware - markets are the way ahead for them, though. You're not in an isolated patch across there. I'm afraid you're in the vanguard.

keeptheaspidistra re the retailing vs recruiting income question, I have a copy of a video that a FL bot recorded (one who no longer lives in her Welsh dream home) and made publicly available. In it she says she has 9 regular customers.

Blimey cheeky
So it really IS all about recruitment.

Now that IS interesting cheeky. Very interesting. There's a couple of FL'ers who broadcast their lives on social media, and (IMO) come across as quite up themselves. I feel like a salesperson role would be beneath their fabulous lives

Oh but they are salespeople. They are selling themselves!

But they have to be so EXCITED all the time. Must be exhausting.

But adherents surely have some minimal 'downtime'? After all, what's to get excited about when you're using the loo or washing between your toes? (Don't all rush to educate me at once!) There must be dozens of everyday activities that you can't be enthusiastic about. Even though they're never shown engaged in them.........

I have to say that I am a little in awe of the traitorbots who had been posting non stop amazeball statements about the MLM they were in (FL: I am SO blessed to be working alongside this amazingly generous company/ I have made so many friends/ ask me what I do) and then segue effortlessly into a video explaining that they have been miserable for a long time but now have found an amazing new opportunity and within a week have replaced their six figure income (ask me what it is that I do/ happy happy smiling face)

Read '1984' again. The bit about the chocolate ration 'increase' comes immediately to mind.

ah, doubleplusgood, Cozie!

Ray is completely right.
To answer your question, no one is happy. You work tirelessly to get to manager and once you get there, believing you've 'made it' are suddenly told 'this is where the work starts'. What this means is now you are totally responsible for everything. Absolutely everything. Down line aren't succeeding, they blame you. Not enough skypes/facetimes/sizzles/driving to see them. Why aren't you coming up with new training? Why haven't you been in your car this week? Why is your 4cc not done on the 1st of the month?
That's something that's kept quiet. Apparently it's disrespectful to your up line to have not done your 4cc on the 1st, even though you're taught you have all month. Why is it disrespectful? Well how else will they work out THEIR promotions and bonus. I actually wish I'd screen shotted so many posts, the sweet and kind facades of certain bots would disappear as quickly as their ccs are.

So really you have a boss, targets, and horrible pressure to work even when you're just popping to the shops for a pint of milk?

Where do I sign up?

Actually, Forever, you'd be hard pushed to afford that pint of milk.

how much is 4cc now? It's gone up hasn't it?

As for telling someone to do their 4cc on the first of the month.

Imagine if you asked me to go to Superdrug and spunk my entire monthly grocery spend on toiletries and supplements that I don't want or you and I would not get paid.

Imagine that, if anyone asked you to do that you'd think they were insane, wouldn't they?

That's why I think these schemes are pure evil.

It's sort of gone up - because recruiting is now only 1CC so instead of recruiting 2 and selling one (as you had to sell 1CC regardless) it's now recruit 2, sell 2 - and then you end up with 4CC rather than 5CC - for more work.

Cozie if you'd been in LTW you can use up all the yazoo, and then just pretend you're going to the shops for essentials

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What a load of pammyness Fully. I thought it was going to be satire but no just a new con by the looks of it

Spammyness!!!!!!