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MLM Bot Watch 24 - Powered by Twunk's Yazoo: Tragicomic cultic wampum flogging scamalangadingdongs like Forever Living, Ariix, Herbalife, Younique, Juiceplus, LifeTreeWorld.

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stopfaffing · 17/06/2016 06:12

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ForeverYazoonique · 12/07/2016 19:16

TFPsa

We've looked into this non stop. Some people do make money. Some are making 6 figures. There are a few in forever living but I think that will go down next year as they were benefitting from an anomaly in the number of CCs (case credits - the method by which FL "standardize" sales figures across the world) they earned by recruiting.

Some earn a small income but genuinely if you want to earn any amount at all you have to work many many hours, and never ever let up. Every person you meet is a business opportunity, everything you post on social media is positive and woohoo! It's all a load of crap.

But most (97%) never make anything at all or lose money. Even those who get to "manager" often find themselves in debt trying to keep that position going.

You are not a business owner - you are a customer of Forever Living/ Arbonne/ Younique/ juice plus/ etc

ForeverYazoonique · 12/07/2016 19:18

And yes, many figures quoted are "gross" - before any expenses.

And you must sell your soul.

And if you are to make money you make it from recruiting others and selling overpriced crap to people who are too polite to say no.

smiinky · 12/07/2016 21:13

And in no way is it a level playing field, you see some mlm managers working their arse off, doing everything their upline tells them to do and not really getting anywhere.
What we've discovered is, that their 'earned' wealth might've come from somewhere else other than the mlm - perhaps an already independently wealthy family, a husband with a proper career or others raid inheritances.
They do a lot of things 'for show' rent big houses, lease big cars, get their hair done all the time. But if you follow them for a while, you'll notice they don't seem to go on any proper holidays or have much time off with the phone off. They have to keep recruiting, its a never ending game of keepy uppy, they are always at work.
The top bots, the ones who are done up to the nines and attractive seem to be able to do things that the downline is told they are not, selling on ebay and amazon on the sly, paying people off so they can take their downline, harassing the downline to buy stock so they can hit targets, no end of practises that the downline would get deactivated for. But if the downline blows the whistle, its they who get deactivated, not the top bots. Because the top bots are there for pr purposes, to break down in tears on stage, to look fabulous and advertise that lifestyle, lure new blood into the scam, if they got deactivated, imagine how bad that would look to the downline, it would show the scam up for what it was. So those who do complain discover that the mlm either does nothing or they end up getting into trouble. Let's face it, if you want fairness and ethics, you are not going to find it in an mlm. If you want to complain go to trading standards or the advertising standards authority, so many bots break the fraud act, the cancer act to name just two laws.

nannynick · 12/07/2016 21:16

When advertising, shouldn't they say what it is that they are promoting?

MLM Bot Watch 24 - Powered by Twunk's Yazoo: Tragicomic cultic wampum flogging scamalangadingdongs like Forever Living, Ariix, Herbalife, Younique, Juiceplus, LifeTreeWorld.
ForeverYazoonique · 12/07/2016 21:25

Exactly Smiinky - so much shit it stinks to high heaven, in more ways than one

ForeverYazoonique · 12/07/2016 21:26

Cute teddy bear nanny

gottaloveascamhun · 12/07/2016 21:33

Anyone heard of giddy lillies? Looks like another MLM. Peeps sharing on FB. This is the buildable web page which as an IBO you can customise. £350 for a cushion?! Looks like a normal bog standard cushion to me! www.freewebstore.org/giddy-lillies/

nannynick · 12/07/2016 21:37

Yes, cute bear and specifically targeting a group of people who are predominately female and quite young (though there are of course nannies in their 40's, 50's and 60's - and even the occasional male nanny Grin).

This picture seems to be from a FL Bot who is posting on a Facebook group aimed at nannies. I have moaned to the group admin to see if they can be removed.

DollyTwat · 12/07/2016 21:52

Ha ha ha £7,500 for an ottoman?!!!
What's it made of? Unicorn?

MLM Bot Watch 24 - Powered by Twunk's Yazoo: Tragicomic cultic wampum flogging scamalangadingdongs like Forever Living, Ariix, Herbalife, Younique, Juiceplus, LifeTreeWorld.
AdultingIsNotWhatIExpected · 12/07/2016 21:57

I don't think that's an MLM, I think its a webstore template - they're dummy products you replace with your own

EauDeParslaii · 12/07/2016 22:20

Dolly you could buy a little car for that!! Pretty sure you can't drive an ottoman though... Or am I not trying hard enough? Does it run on Yazoo? X

ForeverYazoonique · 12/07/2016 22:34

Everything runs on Yazoo Eau

AdultingIsNotWhatIExpected · 12/07/2016 22:34

Eau babe, with positive thinking, you can achieve ANYTHING!
Set your mind to it babe and you'll SMASH driving that ottoman

AdultingIsNotWhatIExpected · 12/07/2016 22:36

If it's not working for you it's because you're letting doubt creep in hun

Put that ottoman on your dream board and make sure you affirm your goal every morning.

Don't just WISH to drive it! Believe you ARE driving it!

power of attraction hun! vroom vroom!

DollyTwat · 12/07/2016 23:25

If the ottoman won't drive, you just didn't work hard enough babe. Work on your mindset and that baby will ROAR

Seenthelight21 · 13/07/2016 01:00

Oh dear LTW 😂😂😂
The holiday Inn in Manchester are on to your pyramid scheme!!!!!!

A friend just sent me this... Haha
They told them what they thought re pyramid scheme then turned their guests away! Good for them!

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ClaudiaWankleman · 13/07/2016 09:14

I think I've just entered a 'debate' with a bot. Looks like she is involved in multiple schemes. Can anyone quickly link the bullying and % who make a profit stats please?

Toobusytowee · 13/07/2016 09:29

Go to Botwatchblog and look up the post called Directory of MLMs. The section at the beginning has some links on those sorts of stats.

cozietoesie · 13/07/2016 09:34

This BotWatchBlog piece has loads of relevant links for you.

Be warned though - if she's deep into MLM territory, you may not find it possible to have her look at things dispassionately. You're more likely to end up with a sore head I fear.

If you read some of the links in the piece above..........

ClaudiaWankleman · 13/07/2016 09:37

I have no interest in converting her but she is advising someone else (who has suggested spending some money on starting a food business) to divert their funds into MLM. I had to step in to tell her not to!

Toobusytowee · 13/07/2016 09:51

Good idea. Give information to people before they get involved. Before they become indoctrinated.

cozietoesie · 13/07/2016 10:08

Ah. You're liable to be portrayed, then, as the negative 'hater' who is trying to stop the other person fulfilling her true potential through sheer jealousy. That tack also serves to reinforce the adherent's own thinking.

Getting in early is usually best though, as Toobusy said.

Good luck.

ClaudiaWankleman · 13/07/2016 10:20

I'm not too bothered how I'm portrayed. I ended the post saying that I could send some links to the OP to help her make a balanced decision and wishing her good luck. Bot has told me 'how very wrong' I am and I have ignored. You can't argue with stupid!

cozietoesie · 13/07/2016 10:25

That BotWatch piece has loads of links to good information then. You'll have tried at least - and sometimes that's all you can do.

ForeverYazoonique · 13/07/2016 12:52

I'm at a soft play place. It's humongous - quite the largest one of these I have ever seen. There are even dodgems. It's mental. And I paid €33 for this torture

No point to make, I just want you to share my pain. And