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MLM Bot Watch 22 - Powered by Yazoo: Tragicomic cultic wampum flogging scamalangadingdongs like Forever Living, Ariix, Herbalife, Younique, Juiceplus, LifeTreeWorld

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LeafTreeRaker · 12/05/2016 21:26

Still going strong here at bot watch HQ on MN!

Previous thread here

Botwatch on Wordpress and on Facebook

Timeless Vie on Wordpress and on Facebook

Eyespeying's Blog aka #manhun, even if he's been banned by MNHQ

Hommetepreneur on Facebook

We have our own regularly returning bots.

Glossary:

Bots: our affectionate name for victims of the MLM racket

MLM: Multi-level Marketing schemes - essentially pyramid schemes that are just legal because you sell a product. Reliant upon constant recruitment despite there not being enough people in the world to go beyond about 12 levels if everyone recruited 6.

Downline/Upline: the people you recruited and those who recruited you (going up and down the pyramid inverted funnel)

Timeless Vie: Parody of MLM schemes (though you might spot one in particular) that also carries out fearless investigative work

Hommetrepreneur: also excellent parody site focussing on the menz

BotWatch: Rather more serious, keeps an eye on what the Bots are claiming next, particularly in reference to health and income claims. Also fearless.

Inverted Funnel: Timeless Vie is NOT a pyramid - it's an inverted Funnel, OK?

Eyes: Our former member Eyespying who knows LOTS about MLM schemes. He's still our very own #manhun.

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J244356 · 14/05/2016 18:01

I beg to differ, CC and RRP are completely connected, CC is just a unit put into
Place to make things even across countrys. Correct me if I'm wrong please

Twunk · 14/05/2016 18:09

I have seen NUMEROUS videos about 4CCs being the "building block" of the business. Fucking dozens of them (there's a whole part of my life I'll never get back).

It's what the "opportunity" is built on!

It was deemed so important that the lovely Bob did a video about it. And others. Oh yes it's marketed as a "change" - it's not just a change it's a Headfuck. Pretending otherwise isn't going to convince anyone.

BSintolerant · 14/05/2016 18:11

Why is the Milka cow lilac?

stopfaffing · 14/05/2016 18:11

Hi Natasha, glad to see you back Smile. Re 5K cheque, I watched that wee clip and the body language was clear; you didn't look happy, particularly compared to the ladies on either side of you. I was sad for you, knowing how hard you'd worked for your bonus cheque.

Twunk · 14/05/2016 18:12

You know what doctors have had a change of their contracts just imposed on them. They're angry and they're striking! What happens at FL? Oh no nothing to see here - it's just an adjustment. Our "business" has always been about retail! It's all positive that FL have done this.

stopfaffing · 14/05/2016 18:16

Natasha, the 4CCs has always been the foundation of fl - is has always equalled two sign-ups plus 1cc personal spend. That's changing soon, for the worse imo. Bots will have to work much harder now to achieve the same 4CCs. We can see that, why can't you?

NatashaBarnBotShingles · 14/05/2016 18:23

Forgive me for being a tad blunt here but how dare you! How can you possibly say you know how I felt? What an absolutely ridiculous statement to make! Do you not think after 2 years doing this that I had a rough idea of what it was going to be? If anything it was slightly over what was expected!! You have no clue of what that moment was about! The 2 girls with me have been doing this longer and have bigger businesses than me of course they got more! And rightly so! See this is what makes some of your comments on here arrogant!! That bonus wasn't my annual income! It was an added extra! I am grateful for that whether it be £10 or £1million! I get paid a nice income, my car is paid for, my bills, rent, savings and things for the kids can all be paid each month, I work flexibly (now) and do about 20 hours a week and I enjoy what I do! I got a free holiday and had a bonus on top! The fact that you think I was disappointed by that says more about you than me I'm afraid! I never have any intention of coming in here to upset anyone but some of the comments are just blatantly rude!

Twunk · 14/05/2016 18:24

Ok barnbot we get you. You looked like that because of the surname. Got it.

BSintolerant · 14/05/2016 18:28

!!!!!!!!!!!

NatashaBarnBotShingles · 14/05/2016 18:28

Wow..... I've just remembered why I stopped reading this!

👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼

Twunk · 14/05/2016 18:32

No one is forcing you to!

BSintolerant · 14/05/2016 18:42

These threads are compelling, even though nobody will tell me why the Milka cow's lilac.

I'm going to slip into a hot bath of Yazoo.

Milky milky. 😉

rayofhope · 14/05/2016 18:45

On a side note natasha I enjoyed your video with your friend. It was funny and I had 'eye of the tiger' stuck in my head after it......

Maybe the CC change might not affect you (or anyone who is still able to recruit consistently every month - or is making enough from their business to buy the CC) but this change WILL affect a lot of business owners.

Sorry to hear some of your team have just ship to LTW, I don't know why they think thats a good idea. It would be a far better decision to step away from mlm completely that go there.

Twunk · 14/05/2016 18:46

I'm off middle-agedly to a middle-aged party. We'll probably drink milky cocoa whilst doing jigsaws and comparing varicose veins.

Mrshumblepants · 14/05/2016 18:51

Oooh! Have fun at your middle aged party! I dont qualify for that yet, as I am only 'almost', 'almost' middle aged... 😉😉

Mrshumblepants · 14/05/2016 18:52

see you back here at 9.30pm then! 😂😂

Mrshumblepants · 14/05/2016 18:53

Shall we have a game of bot bingo? Who will be along next?... Any one fancy a wager... I'll bet 3 dairylea triangles on toojoin...

Twunk · 14/05/2016 18:56

Shame Barnbot has gone. I wanted to ask her how the witch-hunt is going trying to find our mole(s). Any chief suspects? Anyone been hounded?

Twunk · 14/05/2016 18:58

Well tojoin only really wanted to expose us as "biased" which we will readily admit to, so not much point really in pushing that further....

prettyusefulsometimes · 14/05/2016 18:58

I have zero interest in any cheque waving nonsense. Zero interest in your "story".

I just can't comprehend how anyone can fail to see that the income, car, bonus cheques etc etc is "paid" for by a seemingly never ending churn of people pedalled the false expectation of future reward. And now the UK is starting to wake up to the MLM scam, emerging economies which need genuine financial assistance to develop their true potential are being sold this false expectation.

Shame on all you MLM bots.

prettyusefulsometimes · 14/05/2016 19:02

I like Lindt Extra Creamy. And Freddos.

TruthfulTara88 · 14/05/2016 19:11

Hi Natasha I'm fairly new to this but have seen some Forever people on my contacts talking about their holidays to South Africa. Regarding the free holiday. Was it actually a holiday? Because from what I could see, there was two days of the conference and cheque giving. Once you got your cheque could you go off and do what you wanted or were you obligated to go to the rally things? Was there freedom to have a holiday or was it sort of like a timeshare kinda thing? Like you have a 'free holiday' but have to spend hours and hours listening to presentations and stuff. I get that you are probably interested because it's your business and all, but the definition of a holiday in my book is being away from work, so I would call it a free business trip, not a holiday. What are your thoughts?

LMGTFY · 14/05/2016 19:12

OK I'm back, settled in the bath with prosecco remembering it may be a new bike but it's still a middle aged body not used to hills powering it! natasha I sort of get out how people end up doing forever even though I strongly disagree with the way it is done, had it not had the recruitment element and the rather iffy tactics of telling fibs on what their products can do and what people can realistically expect to earn (i am not saying this is necessarily you) may have had the makings of a company that could have ethically and honestly sold stuff, as it is I find it all very dodgy and scammy, we'll have to agree to disagree here. However LTW, you've lost people to that? That smacks of some other level of stupidity to me, I'd be interested to hear your take on that company and how it operates from someone on the other side so to speak.

Mrshumblepants · 14/05/2016 19:13

Totally pretty I see increasing desperation in the bot posts, and an uptick in infighting and little sideways digs amongst themselves, they know the game is running its course, people are wising up, and its not just here, its all over social media... And those 'swap stock' pages are EVERYWHERE... as crap as that radio 5 interview was for getting the real message out there, and as much as bots try and spin it that it was great for business... The noose is tightening, the wider media are onto this now, and its only a matter of time before you are truly exposed for the charlatans you are. Good luck with that!

chesarasara · 14/05/2016 19:14

Didn't someone in an earlier thread refer to LTW as the MLM that fell off the back of a lorry? Brilliantly apt description.

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