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MLM Bot Watch 22 - Powered by Yazoo: Tragicomic cultic wampum flogging scamalangadingdongs like Forever Living, Ariix, Herbalife, Younique, Juiceplus, LifeTreeWorld

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LeafTreeRaker · 12/05/2016 21:26

Still going strong here at bot watch HQ on MN!

Previous thread here

Botwatch on Wordpress and on Facebook

Timeless Vie on Wordpress and on Facebook

Eyespeying's Blog aka #manhun, even if he's been banned by MNHQ

Hommetepreneur on Facebook

We have our own regularly returning bots.

Glossary:

Bots: our affectionate name for victims of the MLM racket

MLM: Multi-level Marketing schemes - essentially pyramid schemes that are just legal because you sell a product. Reliant upon constant recruitment despite there not being enough people in the world to go beyond about 12 levels if everyone recruited 6.

Downline/Upline: the people you recruited and those who recruited you (going up and down the pyramid inverted funnel)

Timeless Vie: Parody of MLM schemes (though you might spot one in particular) that also carries out fearless investigative work

Hommetrepreneur: also excellent parody site focussing on the menz

BotWatch: Rather more serious, keeps an eye on what the Bots are claiming next, particularly in reference to health and income claims. Also fearless.

Inverted Funnel: Timeless Vie is NOT a pyramid - it's an inverted Funnel, OK?

Eyes: Our former member Eyespying who knows LOTS about MLM schemes. He's still our very own #manhun.

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Twunk · 14/05/2016 15:15

I would say that if Ariix are keeping 50% of every sale (remember FL's top "retail discount" is nearly the same at 48% for managers) they are still the winner every single time.

Discounts still come out of the Bots' pockets. They still pay for their training, their business, their travel....etc etc

Do we know much about the Ariix compensation scheme?

Twunk · 14/05/2016 15:15

Mrs I mum prefer your version

NatashaBarnBotShingles · 14/05/2016 15:41

I've got the link for that video if you want it?
👌🏻😉 only have to ask! 👍🏻

LMGTFY · 14/05/2016 15:54

Welcome back natasha, how's things?

NatashaBarnBotShingles · 14/05/2016 15:57

Not too bad thank you, yourself? 😊

LMGTFY · 14/05/2016 16:02

Good thank you. I'm not being rude but I'm literally about to go out on my bike so I'll check back later. How's business been? Many people in your team doing well or dropping out? How is this new change to the CCs for recruiting affecting everyone?

NatashaBarnBotShingles · 14/05/2016 16:09

Enjoy your ride! Business is good thanks, lots of team doing well although I've had a few jump to LTW. New changes don't really make much of a difference. Those that understand the marketing plan in detail aren't worried and those that work properly aren't worried. There's of course a few that see it differently but that's always going to happen with changes. Income unaffected as we don't get paid in cc value anyway.

Delurker2016 · 14/05/2016 16:22

How would you know income isn't affected as the changed haven't taken place yet?
And you are paid on the amount of ccs that pass through your business.
So now, instead of 4cc for sponsoring 2 it's only 2.1 something. So no you are right maybe Income won't be affected, as long as your downline bots work twice as hard.

Twunk · 14/05/2016 16:27

Do you think LTW looks like an even bigger pile of shite than Forever? What are your feelings on Yazoo?

Mrshumblepants · 14/05/2016 16:33

I reckon yazoo is easier to swallow than Cactus jizz twunk Im not surprised they are jumping ship!

Delurker2016 · 14/05/2016 16:35

I don't personally drink any milkshakes, I don't like milk.
I don't have an opinion on LTW if I'm honest. My only background is Forever.

Mrshumblepants · 14/05/2016 16:42

I do... LTW is the naffest mlm yet! I think someone here called it the "mlm that fell off the back of a lorry".... It is a catastrophe waiting to happen IMHO, and I dont think it will take long for us to see that!

Mrshumblepants · 14/05/2016 16:44

Dubious doesnt even begin to describe LTW and my personal opinion is, that anyone who doesnt run a mile from it has very questionable judgement!

In fact make that 100 miles...

TruthfulTara88 · 14/05/2016 16:48

Mmmmmm Yazoo, haven't drunk that in years.
... Looking from a window above, it's like a story of love. Can you hear me?

TruthfulTara88 · 14/05/2016 16:49

Sorry, I'm new to this thread. Have heard a lot of things about MLMs lately. Good and bad. Trying to make my mind up.

Delurker2016 · 14/05/2016 16:55

Surely anyone who joins an MLM has questionable judgement, I don't know it differed to which one you joined.

cozietoesie · 14/05/2016 16:56

Welcome to the thread, Truthful. Smile

Have you read any of the links at the beginning? It might be worth your while.

Delurker2016 · 14/05/2016 16:56

Sorry didn't.

J244356 · 14/05/2016 17:13

Anyone sending the link would be appreciated thanks

Mrshumblepants · 14/05/2016 17:16

J2 natasha has the link apparently? Xxx

TruthfulTara88 · 14/05/2016 17:24

Thanks Cozie I will have a look!

Twunk · 14/05/2016 17:35

You sound a bit complacent BarnBot - about this change in CCs. Now if I ran a business and my income was threatened I would be alert to the potential of losing out, and trying to mitigate the risk.

I certainly wouldn't be saying "oh well it doesn't affect me!" When quite clearly it does.

Mrshumblepants · 14/05/2016 17:55

Hi natasha Im afraid I agree with twunk... Not exactly clear how there is anyway to put a positive spin on it... Are you not at all concerned about this Natasha? I mean it seems for those of you who have spent so much money on building up yourself as mentors and team leaders/builders, to be somewhat of a kick in the teeth... At least from
Where I sit anyway...

NatashaBarnBotShingles · 14/05/2016 17:56

we are not paid on amount of cc... We are paid a percentage of total RRP on products sold. Cc affects incentives and promotions. I'm not complacent, I'm not angered! There's a difference. If anything my income will go up! Work that out! ;)

As for video of me looking disappointed at getting $5k as a bonus (on top of an already generous income) can I just clear up that misconception while I'm here..... That "head drop" had zero to do with the amount. That was a personal moment to do with the fact head office had adjusted the surname on the cheque at short notice.... Long story but very emotional. Nothing to do with the amount on the cheque! I'm all for an informed debate .... It's the assumptions and made up crap that lets this thread down.... Irony right there!! 🙄🙄

Twunk · 14/05/2016 18:00

I believe you, thousands wouldn't