MLM Bot Watch 19 - chat about Utah based tragicomic cultastic racketeering scamalangadingdongs like Forever Living, Ariix, Herbalife, Younique, Juiceplus etc etc etc

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Morning everyone! That ltw page is so funny. Interestingly the Facebook page that actually holds the reviews is very private. One of the reviewers is also a FL rep.
I also came across a Younique parody page called The Younique Widower.

It is sad, isn't it cozie. behind all the satire and jokes (which are great imo for raising awareness and also challenging behaviours and myths) a lot of people are running round and round in a hamster wheel of false promises

(Not sure that analogy makes sense! I just kind of admire the bots drive to succeed and despair of the lies they are peddled l!

Morning all, just caught up and read the TV blog. Yes that absolutely happens in FL.
We are told to hide our friends lists too.
We are told when speaking to a prospect about the business we must always ask them if they have spoke to any one else about Forever and refer them back to the person they first spoke to.....this doesn't happen! And when it doesn't happen and someone is caught out then they say "it's x's choice who she signs with" or "well you should have followed up" - so total contradiction.
Once I added my twin sis to a C9 support group and I noticed a few weeks later that another FBO had liked some of her posts. Turns out three other FBO's on the C9 group had friend requested and started interacting with my sister and one had asked her to "look at the opportunity". So clearly bots "stealing" other people's customers and trying to recruit them from those private groups!

Really interesting post from Timeless Vie. The video is very compelling.

Background :

• I have not seen or interacted with this person in at least 2 decades (we were at primary together.
• Even then I didn't like them and did not have any social connection with them. We went to the same school (different years). That's the only connection.
• A few weeks ago, I get a friend request on FB, I'm suspicious.
• Then :

Hey XXXX!!!

How are you? Wow - it's been a lot of years lol - we won't mention how many coz then our age feels a bit too real lol 😉

Since my life took a change in direction I have loved reconnecting with people I have lost touch with - I love that Facebook can make that easy - not the same as face to face though!!!

What are you up to these days?

Life is very different for me nowadays, My business is going so well, I get a bit too excited to be honest lol.
I know it's probably not for you XXXXX, but you don't happen to know anyone who would love to build something amazing, part time around their full time commitments?
People who are self motivated, enthusiastic and who have a passion for Helping others do so well with this opportunity.
I thought you would certainly know these types of people!!! 😀
Do you have 5 minutes? I would love to show a brief intro video on who I am looking for and what I have to offer?
Xxx

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This absolutely stinks of desperation, how can people actually fall for this? Anyway, my rather blunt (but informative) reply is in the image attached. She's completely under the spell.

Those messages drive me mad, I had someone in my down line who always knew better, a few of my others had been sending these messages, but the one she had given them. When I was sent it I literally put my head in my hands.
She went on and on and on about the business and she's just had a promotion and oh the products and everything is so lovely and happy and maybe you'd like to be involved oh and did I tell you about my promotion already. It reminded me of one of those pretentious Christmas letters people send.

I'm actually cringing after reading it.

I guess they have to prove to 'others' that they're trying.

More contradictions....I was encouraged to send the exact same message. It's a script designed by a soaring male bot. But then we were also told to "be unique and not spam".

I'm afraid that being 'unique' in that context is likely no more than 'topping and tailing' a standard message with a name and - if you're lucky - a reference to eg a named child. Little more than that - how could they write a whole load of individual messages, given their time constraints and the fact that there's often no longer a real relationship? (If there ever was one. )

If it was just a script, I don't feel bad for being so blunt, it's about the same amount of respect she showed me by just copying and pasting that guff.

Don't feel bad. You must send at least 10 sponsoring messages a day and complete your activity tracker, paying attention to the 'hot button' with the prospect. So children, long hours etc and then play on it.
It will have been one of 10+ sent that day.

Just had a look at my bit and sure enough she's hidden her friends list, is that so no one can poach her customers?

It is private so other bots can't approach her prospects and customers.

Flipping heck lacura!

Is it wrong that I'm ready dreading maternity leave and becoming a 'magnet' for this type of thing? One of my friends got sucked into MLM at a baby group- first baby, feeling a bit vulnerable, desperate to make mummy friends. It's just so easy isn't it

'Mummy friends' should've be in inverted commas, because it's a big vom-inducing. Apologies.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/2624069-How-do-I-get-out-of-these-parties

Sound familiar

One of my bots has just put up an #inspirational meme saying "don't be afraid to expand yourself".

@ Nolongerconfused. But I have seen a training by a top bot where she teaches how you can stalk and prospect Facebook accounts with closed friends lists. How you can infiltrate these accounts, how you can find and contact the friends of these people who thought that they had privacy.
My bad if it's now been taken down, because we downloaded it along with a whole lot of other non compliant trainings. And now FL Compliance have removed a lot of the training to examine it . To be honest, a lot of it had dodgy things such as training to stalk, didn't have to look very far to find coachings that flout UK law, not far at all. So what a shame for them that we have this.

I'm almost disappointed to not have been prospected for quite a while. Must be a good year ago I got a random message. I don't have my maiden name on fb though.

rae some c9 will cure that expansion

Some of the top 10 (I know of at least 2) have got team members by messaging people on their friends 'friends lists' and striking up conversation and befriending them on Facebook by saying we have a mutual friend etc

I hid my friends list a long time ago so no one could do that to me.

Oh and I remember a good friend I was chatting to about forever who was quite keen on joining. She went to her local business presentation to find out more (not one local to me as we live quite far apart from each other) a top FBO there started chatting to her and said she shouldn't join my team she should join hers as she was local to her.

Thankfully my friend saw sense and didn't join (much to my relief now)

All I've had was a couple of 'missionaries' try to involve me by starting a conversation about flowers (!) when I was out in the front garden.

Once they'd moved inside the gate, it wasn't long before they started to change the subject.

They got 'appropriate' shrift.

Urghhhhhh look at this posted in manager groups today!
Clearly they are panicking about the drop in manager business as it effects their bonus.
It's ironic because we are told "it's our business to run how we wish" yet this contradicts that as they are pushing us (like a boss would) to be 4cc active early in the month.
This is the type of blackmail we are subjected too! Makes me so mad now.
Also shows that a lot of people are struggling and very few succeeding.

When they say 'do you buy your 4cc' are they saying you should be doing that or you shouldn't?

Do you think they are buying the cc themselves without having a customer? Seeing as its left til last minute?