MLM Bot Watch 16 - Chat about the Scamalasmical cultic racket of MLMs Forever Living, Juiceplus , Ariix, Younique, (insert name of Utah MLM here) now including hunpreneurs, cheese, posts from eyes

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Botwatch
botwatchblog.wordpress.com
www.facebook.com/liestopper/?fref=ts

Timeless Vie
timelessvie.wordpress.com
www.facebook.com/timelessvie

Eyes Blog:
mlmtheamericandreammadenightmare.blogspot.nl

Hommetepreneur:
www.facebook.com/hommetrepreneur/

You're assuming they either care or don't know, Kanga. Remember Eye's recent post.

I've screenshot the posts going back months if it turns out anyone needs them.

I've got some screenshots and have messaged the writer. She who doth protest too much... Or something like that!

Lots of ex-bots have spoken on the post about bullying, lack of support, losing money, debt etc. One even saying that she made manager and qualified for a trip to Sweden but now hates the whole thing.

And the only bot to come forward to defend the business not has regurgitated the script, made an incredible amount of false medical claims on her business page and sounds like a bit of a bully herself.

The article should be interesting

So many people coming forward to share the other (real) side of it all. You know I used to be like the people who are still with FL, that I honestly thought it was the best business and it would truly work for me.

Look how many others thought the same, but so sad to see the reality. I wonder what the true extent of people losing money is? I suppose we'll never know as people are ashamed and because they were recruited by a good friend or family member they probably don't feel they can tell the true extent as don't want to offend or alienate themselves :(

Maybe they will do a comparison piece. Good experiences V bad. That way should the "successful" flbo commenter be interviewed she can provide evidence to back up her medical claims and sources for her testimonials of people with diabetes and high blood pressure etc in addition to evidence of earnings and expenses etc. Oh and the royalties for years to come; specification examples of people who are living off these now would be good.

It's all gone bananas

I like the "How can they lose money? There's no inventory to carry!"

Let's do this again shall we?

The original "business in a box"
Take the C9 immediately and "post results" (NB you can't make weight-loss claims)
Go to training days - pay for tickets plus travel and poss even hotels
Use the products yourself (one uberbot says she uses 23 products a day...)
Maintain 4CC per month to keep your position (don't sell or recruit it? What do you do?)
Motivational literature and CDs etc

And most important - the human cost: hours and hours of labour wasted, friends lost and people avoiding you.

I particularly liked the admission she was still making the medical claims but had just changed her settings so fewer people could see them!

keeptheaspidistra yes she says they already have a 'happy' forever "business owner" interviewed and now want "the other side"

I wonder if they would do a similar piece about other scammers? So...Mr Fraud - has scamming made you happy? Some people can't hack the pace can they?"

Has someone sent the medical claims on to botwatch

I have throwing and others from those who also joined in the argument. They're all at it!

The main one still has a photo uploaded as a mobile upload twice that claims the gel treats crohns amongst other things. She missed that one! I've screen shot those too!

There's a suggestion on that post that people fail due to lack of support from friends and family. By support does that person mean money? Because that's what got my back up against fl in the first place- people who I thought were my friends harassing me to buy things I have no interest in, constantly adding me to online selling parties on social media, the emotional blackmail posts the next day about "negative people not being supportive" because no ones bought a single thing and old acquaintances suddenly wanting to meet up once my pregnancy was common knowledge.

You're probably right cubic. Shame.
Oh well... I wonder how many "successful/happy" flbo's were keen to get their hands on their £150 fee, not that they need it with all their royalties of course...

I like that description of the fraudulent insurance claim 'treatment', Cubic. It actually strikes me that there's some real potential for TV to do a spoof their own piece on this.

Sorry - in due course that is. (I'm conscious that TV are already working hard.)

They do always seem remarkably unembarrassed about their 'churn' rate.

I also hate this idea that you "need thousands" to start a business. I'm starting my own business and it's going to cost me...well about €250 which coincidentally is about £200 (this includes getting myself registered as a business and some training I would like to do - actual useful stuff and not brainwashing)

I have had a rather quiet bot week... Did get invited to an ariix party though..