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MLM Bot Watch 16 - Chat about the Scamalasmical cultic racket of MLMs Forever Living, Juiceplus , Ariix, Younique, (insert name of Utah MLM here) now including hunpreneurs, cheese, posts from eyes

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stopfaffing · 19/03/2016 15:36

Botwatch
botwatchblog.wordpress.com
www.facebook.com/liestopper/?fref=ts

Timeless Vie
timelessvie.wordpress.com
www.facebook.com/timelessvie

Eyes Blog:
mlmtheamericandreammadenightmare.blogspot.nl

Hommetepreneur:
www.facebook.com/hommetrepreneur/

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Twunk · 20/03/2016 18:16

Amway sounds horribly creepy Eyes

Eyespying · 20/03/2016 18:29

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Eyespying · 20/03/2016 18:40

Twunk - When you look at the wider evidence of what lurks behind 'MLM,' you also should see more clearly why I considered Natasha Shingles' nasty comment yesterday evening (implying my view of 'MLM' to be unbalanced and distorted ) to have been libellous.

Thankfully, MN administrators have deleted that comment, and other provocations, today.

NatashaBarnBotShingles · 20/03/2016 18:42

Wrong again!

..... I have no idea where u get these figures from! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Eyespying · 20/03/2016 18:48

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SimonLeBonOnAndOn · 20/03/2016 18:51

My bots have had a 'success' day at the local holiday inn.
Photo of twenty women grinning and cheering themselves wearing party bag medals.

inthewildwildwood · 20/03/2016 19:02

A question for Natasha. As I'd guess your frequent appearance on this thread means you are more likely to feature in the next Sunday Times article which photo of yourself are you hoping they'd use. I must say I thought castle-bots photo in the newspaper was a lovely one.

Twunk · 20/03/2016 19:04

She does suit that sort of bright navy blue....

inthewildwildwood · 20/03/2016 19:06

She did look OK.

Twunk · 20/03/2016 19:06

She did indeed. She looked OK 👍🏻

DollyTwat · 20/03/2016 19:14

Oh dear. It doesn't look good when the posts from Natasha have been removed by mnhq does it?

Eyespying · 20/03/2016 19:21

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Eyespying · 20/03/2016 19:22

crumbling although 'crimbling' could catch on?

shadowplay · 20/03/2016 19:31

Natasha, do you not think it's strange that fl and a whole other host of mlms haven't successfully sued Eyes for all the supposedly untrue, defamatory and frankly harmful things he's written about them on his blog?

I know if my employers were publicly accused of committing mass fraud and it wasn't true, they would have lawyers on the case as quick as you could say aloe gloop. Why aren't the good people at fl defending their honour in the face of such and outrage?

Unless of course eyes

Twunk · 20/03/2016 19:32

I think Eyes more than anyone else on this thread, has the right to call MLMs whatever the fuck he likes as his family was ripped apart by one. But he's still right even if he has an emotional response to the hideous enterprises that have inflicted them on the world.

I have an emotional response because I am so fecking angry about the number of people being conned and the powers that be ignoring it.

shadowplay · 20/03/2016 19:32

I'll finish my post, damn chubby fingers post send a little early.

Unless of course eyes is telling the truth, is how that should have ended.

Twunk · 20/03/2016 19:40

You see Natasha (and all the rest reading) it's not about you. It's about the whole damn pyramid. By representing this "lifestyle", this "opportunity" to the world as if it was a legitimate enterprise you are a part of the problem. You are knowingly conning people out of their money and their time on a promise of riches that fewer than 1% (was it 0.4%?) of participants can ever, and do ever, receive.

And in many cases these are people you know, and presumably profess to care about.

NatashaBarnBotShingles · 20/03/2016 21:22

You clearly have no understanding of how FL work, no understanding of how the marketing plan works and no idea of how we are paid.... You prove this repeatedly by stating crazy figures that aren't true, pointing out clauses in policy that aren't true, implications about individuals character that aren't true..... Every answer given to a question is just ignored yet you continue to ask them anyway. I honestly don't see the point in you always asking for "bots" to answer questions when you have no intention of listening anyway. Complete waste of time!

I can't even be bothered to keep answering anymore .... Quite frankly what your opinion of me is doesn't make any difference to my life. You have zero understanding about what this business has done for many people, including those in my team. Maybe one of you should take the time to step away from the keyboard and actually speak to those doing it properly, but of course that won't happen..... It's just not the way a balanced discussion is done nowadays!

So I am leaving this thread realising I've wasted numerous hours trying to show you that your information regarding FL was massively inaccurate, Infact I've seen little posted that is factual! You just pull figures out the air! 60 recruits to get to manager??? My frontline is 47.... 12 of which were discount customers that signed up without a box and no intention of building a business which leaves 35! So in 22 months I've signed up 35 people! Of which 24 are actually working! I have managers in 3 generations of my team and I only get paid on 3 lines of managers and 6 lines non manager team. So when number 7 joins I earn nothing from them.... The top bots higher than 3 above me get ZERO from my business..... Do your pyramid figures still add up????

And let's not forget the clincher... IF and I mean IF you have taken it upon yourself to buy a lorry load of product and you decide to leave the company.... They will buy your product back!

KNOW your argument..... CHECK the facts!

👍🏻👍🏻

ForeverLivingMyArse · 20/03/2016 21:31
shadowplay · 20/03/2016 21:35

Very simple question Natasha. If what eyes writes about fl and other mlms on his public blog is not true, why don't fl and others sue him?

stopfaffing · 20/03/2016 21:38

Hi Natasha, I am going to have a look at FL Terms and Conditions because I think I remember reading (some time ago now) that there are a number of restrictions on returning unused product to the company which makes it very difficult to achieve (in answer to your comment "IF and I mean IF you have taken it upon yourself to buy a lorry load of product and you decide to leave the company.... They will buy your product back! "

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throwingpebbles · 20/03/2016 21:58

"as quick as you could say 'aloe goop'" Grin Grin Grin

DollyTwat · 20/03/2016 22:05

If you are still reading Natasha, we have lots of stories from people who have been part of FL. They disagree with what you say.
People who were doing it 'properly' but didn't make any money.

When building a team is part of the plan rather than selling the products 'time multiplication' it's called.

When I asked about selling the products and if I had to build a team I was told 'In most cases yes because that's where the bigger money Is made. On your own and In my experience people who do not have a team can retail around £200 a month retail value, I do that then coach my team to do the same'

That's from someone doing well Natasha

Merclady · 20/03/2016 22:11

Has she gone
Can we come back out now?!!?

ClockworkJelly · 20/03/2016 22:15

Delurkes.

Hi lovelies!

(Scratches head in confusion...)

My frontline is 47.... 12 of which were discount customers that signed up without a box and no intention of building a business which leaves 35! So in 22 months I've signed up 35 people! Of which 24 are actually working! I have managers in 3 generations of my team and I only get paid on 3 lines of managers and 6 lines non manager team. So when number 7 joins I earn nothing from them.... The top bots higher than 3 above me get ZERO from my business..... Do your pyramid figures still add up????

So how can you afford to pay 4grand (or whatever it was) in rent a month?!

Am I being dumb?