MLM Bot Watch 15- Chat about the Scamalasmical cultic racket of MLMs Forever Living, Juiceplus , Ariix, Younique, (insert name of Utah MLM here) now including hunpreneurs, cheese, posts from eyes

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Timeless Vie
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Eyes Blog:
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Hommetepreneur:
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natasha do you report evetything you see or do you try to explain to the person concerned where they are going wrong? I think things must be getting through as a lot of medical claims posts I was seeing have been reduced lately.

Motorhead I would say botwatch is almost entirely responsible for forevers new guidelines! I still fail to see what the USP of a huge jug of nasty tasting goo is after the spurious claims have gone though....

Have you ever seen the videos of people drinking it? Their faces are hilarious! Some even hold their noses because it is that bad! 😂😂😂

I do both! I have done this recently regarding c9 results and kindly asked for it to be taken down. If I'm ignored I go to the upline to ask them and if I'm still ignored I report to HO. Believe it or not many of us do pull these posts up and ask that they refer to company policy regarding compliance

I wouldn't have said it!s 'mind-blowing' as much as 'disturbing', Eye. People can move very quickly indeed when there are big $$$$ at stake for them.

The clamping down on medical claims is something I whole heartedly agree with! I have lost family to cancer and have family dealing with that now also. I would completely understand how upsetting it would be to have someone approach you with medical claims

I seem to recall a post with a picture of advice on it, Melaw. Post-gloop strawberries were involved, I think?

My counter advice cozie, skip the gloop and just have the strawberries! 😂

Agreed eyes, hence me no longer engaging it.

I realise I am a thread behind but having only just caught up I felt impelled to post this link. It was all the talk of being on the list that reminded me of it :)

Would you say it's fair that some people who are recruited really are t the right people to be a part of it? Say the people who aren't doing well financially and who would struggle to buy the personal amounts required?

Thanks temptation perfect comedic timing there! 😂😂😂

They're not 'people' though, Motorhead. To a recruiter, they're arguably just 'ticks'.

cozie or prospects/hot buttons etc...

Indeed.

Totally agree Cozie, just wondered Natasha's thoughts on it.

Motorheadmum I have recruited people that I genuinely believed would be amazing.... And they haven't done a thing! I have beaten myself up about that time & time again! When I first joined I assumed everyone in a similar position to me would see what I saw and do what I did! I had no money, was a single mum.... Textbook MLM prospect if I was to go by these threads.
I found genuine customers and I put 100% into learning and doing it properly. I got it wrong many times at the start... Over excitement & lack of confidence maybe even a tad of cockiness thinking I knew what I was doing!
The reality is of course people join and sometimes do nothing, sometimes they join and do fantastic... But you don't know who that will be and if my sponsor had gone solely on my attributes on paper she probably would've avoided me like the plague!! I was blunt, disgruntled about sales jobs in general (I hated them coming from a care background) she was a stranger and I was an argumentative sceptic!
But.... If she hadn't have given me the chance I would have a very different life now and I thank her for that!
You see, I had to borrow the money to join. I worked hard to pay it back as quick as I could and I did within a week. I loved what I was doing and I still genuinely do. I am of the opinion that it is your own responsibility to make it work (controversial I know) but I honestly don't see how it's not! I trained as a hairdresser years ago and spent over £600 learning that but I never became a rich and famous stylist.... Why? Because I wasn't prepared to work hard at it and my passion didn't really kick in for it! Who do I blame? The college that took my money? The rich & famous stylists that I aspired to be? Or me? The one who gave up too quick or who didn't put in the work. I know that's harsh to say but it's how I see it. That said I know there are people who maybe never had it in them to do this and maybe they were brought into it by an inexperienced overexcited newbie who doesn't understand yet that not everyone can or will make a go of it. This isn't just the case with MLM though, this is apparent in all careers, jobs or even sports or hobbies. I don't go fishing for vulnerable people I go looking for hard working, ambitious, driven people.... People that want this life and understand what it takes to have it! But that's after I spent a good 3 months looking for people just like me.. People who were struggling, people who I thought would want more than they had....Only to realise there wasn't many of them! Mistakes are made, I've made many but you learn from them. Have I ever calculatedly signed someone up knowing they couldn't do it? Of course not, I wouldn't earn, they wouldn't earn and you're left with a disgruntled team member. That doesn't work out for anyone involved and it's pointless

That was quite funny, temptation.

Natasha Sorry to take so long to reply, but I've been busy.

Yes, 1998! So, to make sure I have this right, you lived in your council house on a secure tenancy from 1998 to 2015, meaning you would qualify for the £75k discount, if you could raise a mortgage.

You have now assigned your tenancy to your mum. Do I have that right? So you have lost your opportunity to buy the house at a discount.

You see, that doesn't seem like a shrewd business decision, as in effect you've lost out on £75k. So moving to the rented barn could be taken two ways:
a) You are earning enough so that £75k is nothing to you - I don't imagine that this applies to many people, even millionaires.
b) You are not earning enough to get a mortgage. If the council house is worth, say, £200k, you would need a mortgage for £125k.

Therefore, perhaps moving to the barn isn't such a mad decision.

Either way, what you decide is fine for your life. I hope it makes you happy. But if you look at your figures and find things are not stacking up, it can't be right to keep enrolling people. Particularly people who don't have the "life's too short" attitude that you have.

You obviously work hard. Maybe it's time to face reality about FL?

Is every CEO of every MLM a Mormon then? Is that why someone's religion is relevant here?? I thought this was about lying and fake MLMers not a debate on religion???? Wow that's a whole pointless conversation seeing as most of the wars around the world are due to no one agreeing on religion opinions!

"Ok my religion is wrong and you are right"..... Said no one ever!