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lastuseraccount123 · 18/02/2016 22:28

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VegoDoll · 21/02/2016 01:06

Oh I'm sorry my mistake, the people you take the piss out of are contacting you and thanking you for it are they? I missed that one.

lastuseraccount123 · 21/02/2016 01:09

i'm not making money off them.

u are.

i know it's hard to admit it which is why you keep trying to turn this onto us.

we are totally upfront about what we do. Sure i'm a hypocrite - to be human is to be imperfect.

are you? mmmmmm.

yes - i laugh. i also laugh at myself. but guess what, they are coming to us.

I'll jsut keep saying it; who is making the money here.

not me, not TV.

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VegoDoll · 21/02/2016 01:10

Your boss makes money off you.

SARRY.

lastuseraccount123 · 21/02/2016 01:11

i guess they don't agree with you and dont' feel taken the piss out of by us.

you know how they feel about their upline though? exploited. taken teh piss out of.

again, who is making the money here? it's not us.

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lastuseraccount123 · 21/02/2016 01:12

vego hahaha, oh noes! i have a boss! she is paid money! she does not make money off me cos i'm not in an MLM, we are in a real business and a real company where people get paid wagess, benefits, holiday pay etc.

yes, it's terrible but i do have a job.

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VegoDoll · 21/02/2016 01:14

Boss, CEO, organisations whatever.

Somebody at the top of the tree is making lots of money while lots of people don't make very much. It happens...does it not?

Gimlet1984 · 21/02/2016 01:18

Vego just comes across as a plant to me. We all know that no one is making any net profit doing these scams and yet somehow you have managed to convince 5332 others you are resulting in your downline. Over 12 months that's 444 new people a month joining nuskin who's lives you have ruined and you have even said morally you don't care, yet you say we are the ones taking the piss. You should look at your own actions before you comment on others.

VegoDoll · 21/02/2016 01:18

I am not part of the culture whereby I am smug that I am in MLM and don't have a job...so well done on trying to tar me with the same brush.

Anyone who takes a good look through these threads will see that as well as "educating" you also like to have a good laugh at these "poor vulnerable" women. You and many others on this thread are not people I would come to for help.

lastuseraccount123 · 21/02/2016 01:20

um, in the world of business, generally the persons who take the financial risk of starting a real company do end up making the most money. IF it succeeds. there is risk.

The difference is I am not required to 'buy' a certain amount of my company's products every month to have a job.

I go there, do my work, they pay me well and I leave.

I don't have to recruit people to get my wage to a certain level,

to sell the same products I do. I get my wages for the work I do.

I get benefits. People are renumerated according to their skillset, their job responsibility, and their talent.

Not on whether they are blonde and photogenic with a cute story, or how many people they recruit into buying the same products for teh same company that they are also buying and being genuinely disingenuous about what they are doing.

So, yup, people are paid more than me. If I decide to go out on my own and start a real business, NOT an MLM, I could be very well paid one day too. Anything is possbile. Won't be for an MLM though.

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VegoDoll · 21/02/2016 01:22

Instead of watching "bots" in MLM, why don't you approach them and laugh at them and see what happens?

Not one of you took me up on my offer to speak to me face to face on Skype and see me for who I am, a real person.

Instead you want to hide behind your screen and throw out your veiled insults.

lastuseraccount123 · 21/02/2016 01:22

vego i don't believe for a red-hot second you came here for help. So that to me is a red herring.

Happily, other women don't feel like you.

who is making the money here? it's not us.

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lastuseraccount123 · 21/02/2016 01:25

your 'skype offer' is not something we'd ever take you up on. it's odd. why would you even make that offer? then no one can know what you say.

if you're really legit, show us the proof. Right here. On this board. Where everyone can read it. Not everyone will see your skype call.

asnwer our questions. you haven't done either.

Everyone note how she keeps attacking us? it's a tactic.

again, who is making the money here? it's not us.

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VegoDoll · 21/02/2016 01:28

Someone on this thread said I should come here for help.

What a joke!

As if I would resign, come here and seek support from a bunch of people who like to laugh at other people. And as for posting screenshots of people's post, you do know I only have to copy and paste the words into Google and I can find all the individuals you appear to hope have misfortune. How do you think they would feel if they saw their posts on this thread?

I get paid, yes. But I don't pretend to be all holier than thou helping people whilst also laughing at the same people I claim to want to help!

VegoDoll · 21/02/2016 01:29

Are you surprised I am sticking up for myself? Like really, are you surprised?

lastuseraccount123 · 21/02/2016 01:32

It is very hard to admit that you are exploiting your downline for your income. I understand that must be difficult to admit. I'm sorry, but it's the truth.

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VegoDoll · 21/02/2016 01:32

Errrm. I go on Skype with "head piss taker" from this thread, "head piss taker" reports back to you with what I have said or is that too complicated to understand? You spend all day laughing about strangers to other strangers so what is so odd about Skype?

lastuseraccount123 · 21/02/2016 01:33

Not surprised at all vego to think you could be doing that is horrible. It's completely understandable why you are freaking on us right now.

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lastuseraccount123 · 21/02/2016 01:34

vego a skype call is not transparent. it's a typical MLM tactic to control information.

if you have something to say and prove, feel free to share it here so everyone can see it at the same time.

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VegoDoll · 21/02/2016 01:35

I am not exploiting my downline at all. You see it that way, and many others may support that viewpoint.
But many others also DON'T support that viewpoint.

I will stand up for myself all day long on this thread if I have to.

Carry on.

lastuseraccount123 · 21/02/2016 01:36

i'm not responding to your other attacks because i know you need to make this about us and how bad we are.

but we are not the problem here. The MLM is. The exploitation of people below you is. We are not making any money from this.

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VegoDoll · 21/02/2016 01:36

I have nothing to prove to you. I couldn't care a less what you think about me. You are just someone who laughs at other peoples expense online behind the guise of helping.

chuckingstones · 21/02/2016 01:37

Indeed, my boss doesn't make money off of me, he makes money with me. I work in a company where everyone helps each other to get a job done, and we earn our wage that way.

I'm responsible for a number of people below me, I help train them, but they don't pay me a penny for it, the company does. I get paid a wage, a decent one but it'll never be 6 figures, but then I have a fantastic work life balance as I expect alot of people on here do.

Vego I'm not criticising your desire or drive for a better life and I congratulate you on seemingly achieving it, however I could never agree with the way it's done. I understand desperate times and all, but my conscience couldn't handle the sort of structure an MLM . The "everyone can achieve a 6 figure salary" ethos can never work as eventually you'll have one MLMer trying to sell to another, so it has to be doomed to failure for a large proportion and I suspect many of them cannot afford to be out of pocket so may well end up in the same situation you were a year ago.

What TV is doing is hopefully catching these vulnerable people before they make that leap, and supporting those who have already done so. TV has chosen to do it in a comedic style akin to how many MLMs are advertised, but ultimately with serious undertones. I wholeheartedly applaud the work they're doing.

(Apologies for the message spam, it's what comes from lurking then having too much to say Grin)

VegoDoll · 21/02/2016 01:37

I'm sticking up for myself, you and your team of piss takers have been attacking me silly.

Get over it.

Gimlet1984 · 21/02/2016 01:37

I'm surprised that someone who is allegedly so exhausted still finds the energy to cause trouble on these threads early in the morning. You obviously have a lot of time on your hands. If your here looking for help in leaving then why attack us when we are asking reasonable questions? The fact you felt the need to delete all your previous posts shows you can't stand by your own argument.

lastuseraccount123 · 21/02/2016 01:38

we see it that way because it's the truth.

of course you have to stand up for yourself all day. You have to. YOu are in a bind. You are financially beholden to your MLM, so you have to do what you can to protect your income. It's primal.

I'm sorry for the predicament you are in. But we are concerned about people losing money and we will keep fighting against this kind of thing.

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