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MLM-bot watch - LIGHTHEARTED - continued discussion of Juice + Forever Living Younique etc as scams with laughing

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lastuseraccount123 · 10/01/2016 19:11

Continued LIGHT-HEARTED discussion here.

For heavy analysis, please check out Eyespy's threads on the same topic.

Our own, fake MN MLM twitter, FB & blog accounts are here:

@TimelessVie
wordpress.com/timelessvie
facebook.com/timelessvie

update: 459 likes on TV FB page, over 6,000 reach

nearly 5,500 views of blog - not bad since it was started in november, and we're noticing more and more websearches for TV too.

Interested in more indepth analysis? On the left sidebar of the blog, under "blogroll" is a list of more serious MLM blogs.

Please keep this thread is bot-watching, sharing screenshots, random MLM info you find and other crazy shit, please and thankyou Grin

And again, we could do none of this without all of you. Thank you.

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Gimlet1984 · 23/01/2016 15:01

Sorry I should have said that video was an earlier one Eyespying when she had only been with forever for a short time. I think it's recorded at the old house when she lived in Manchester. I just wanted to highlight her story had changed to be more dramatic involving the police officers to gain sympathy compared to her earlier motive for joining forever which was to be a stay at home mum.

Gimlet1984 · 23/01/2016 15:33

Your absolutely right Ray. I have heard one of the high level bots say she works 6 days a week and has nearly ended up divorced because her partner does not agree with the company and thinks its a waste of time. Apparently they dont speak to each other for weeks and live separate lives since he's working long hours trying to keep the roof over their heads and she's up and down the country doing training or at events. As a result the kids don't see much of her either. Hardly the dream job it's portrayed to be, it sounds more like a nightmare.

rayofhope · 23/01/2016 15:48

All smoke and mirrors, they promote that it's a business you can do around your children and give you more freedom and time but in reality to make big money it's long hours, evenings, weekends and it's all you constantly think about as you are put in the mindset that everyone you meet or talk to is a potential recruit.

But they then say they are just working it hard now so they can retire in 3-5 years, but if you still want the big money and free holidays you can't retire, you have to keep business building.

What if you retire and that demotivates your downline? They might see it as you've given up, so then they give up too. Your team leading bonuses are soon going to decrease

Gimlet1984 · 23/01/2016 16:31

Looks like it's not just the vulnerable Greeks they want to exploit. Watch out Romania, Emma Cooper's brother is coming to town!

Eyespying · 23/01/2016 16:39

rayofhope I can't rembember which MN member recently made the comparison of keeping plates spinning, but that's almost exactly what 'FLP' shills have to do. Every plate they find and spin will eventually fall, but the rules of the game keep forcing them to ignore the mounting damage and to run round like blue-arsed flies, finding more and more plates to spin.

BTW I've been told about more British 'FLP' shill husbands who have expressed serious doubts (in private).

RooftopView · 23/01/2016 16:55

My bots husband gets mentioned in her posts as if they are in it together and is often roped into some of her photos but you can see the "FFS keep me out of this" look on his reluctant face as he's pictured with a half-arsed smile through gritted teeth.

Eyespying · 23/01/2016 17:27

Aarran Horne is the husband of British 'FLP' shill, Abigail Horne.

Aarran's evidently been drowned by the 'MLM' bullshit after first trying to drag his wife out.

Siwi · 23/01/2016 18:02

That reminded me of Alan Bennet's Talking Heads.

Eyespying · 23/01/2016 18:47

I have to say, it would have been a great title for a Bennett play:

'Abigail, the 'Lifestyle Guru' of Stoke of Trent'

Eyespying · 23/01/2016 18:51

Siwi - Sorry about that, I wanted to post this pathetic 'Lifestyle Guru' video, rather than the other one twice

SixtyFootDoll · 23/01/2016 19:52

Hi rudchoob yes I saw the party at the castle. Didn't seem to be that many there, those who were were gushing as per

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Tupperwarelid · 23/01/2016 21:09

Does anyone know who is paying for the EC party weekend and the Louise Perry party tomorrow? Is FL paying, or the shrills or have the guests got to pay to attend? The EC one looks pretty impressive and everyone is really dressed up, it can't have been cheap to put on. Does anyone have any inside information?

Ginormarse · 23/01/2016 21:13

The bots in EC's team are all posting gushing Facebook statuses about how lucky they are to be invited to the party at her castle. I just don't get why they are so excited. It seems to be a 2 day event which includes training (extra brainwashing) and the chance of taking lots of selfies in her (rented) castle, which in my opinion looks nice enough from the outside but is characterless and bland on the inside (a bit like it's owner, sorry she doesn't really own it does she!! )

SixtyFootDoll · 23/01/2016 21:17

I reckon the money must come from the church higher tier of FL. There are photos of fridges full of booze.
There no way she making that much from flogging c9!

Eyespying · 23/01/2016 21:26

Tupperwarelid These events front a money circulation game played to very strict rules. The money is only ever passed in one direction and its coming from the base of the pyramid. On the surface, events like EC's party, are paid for by the shill Bots. However, behind the kitsch scenes, the shill Bots have to have regularly handed over a certain ammount of cash to their own 'Upline' handlers for a certain ammount of time, and found a certain number of contributing, rising-bots and base tier Bots, before they are allowed to hold such events.

In turn the rising Bots have to have regularly given a certain ammount of cash and found, and maintained, a certain number of new base tier contributing-Bots, before they get an invite.

Eyespying · 23/01/2016 21:41

Tupperwarelid Try to forget the products and imagine how much cash has been, and needs to keep being, passed upwards through EC's section of the pyramid for her to have risen to, and to have stayed at, the level she currently occupies, and for all EC's Bot-subordinates to have risen to levels they currently occupy.

In order to hold an event like EC's (ship of fools) party, requires many hundreds of thousands of pounds of unlawful losing investment payments to have been laundered as 'sales' over many months. The chronic victims who have continued to make these losing investment payments, and who have found the most victims to copy them, are the guests being slapped on the back and given a glass of cheap bubbly.

Tupperwarelid · 23/01/2016 21:49

Thanks Eye that makes sense. I believe the ones that have been invited to the Louise Perry event have won some kind of "incentive".

Eyespying · 23/01/2016 21:57

Tupperwarelid - Correct, you see that the key 'positive' words used to control Bots are always an inversion, or distortion, of reality.

In the adult word of quantifiable reality, everything Bots do is only to the benefit of their masters, and their obedient behaviour is based on their false expectation of future reward.

Bots respond to a regular pat on the head from their masters for being obedient.

In the final analysis, training Bots is very similar to training dogs.

Woodhill · 23/01/2016 22:23

Marking my place.

Rudechoob · 24/01/2016 00:40

This cult is so creepy, a bot spilt the beans to me about how she recruits.. It was quite disturbing....

The EC party looks creepy a robotic party...crazy looks behind the eyes...

IoraRua · 24/01/2016 00:55

A girl I went to school with has just been roped into Juice Plus, poor thing. I'd been so pleased that no one I actually knew had fallen for these things!
Married very young and had babies, no qualifications, not much money.
Very easy to see how they rope them in, really...

Eyespying · 24/01/2016 08:42

IoraRua - 'Very easy to see how they rope them in,'

Watch Donald Trump addressing a gathering of 'MLM' Bots and see how he's currently using exactly the same approach (indeed, almost the same script) to run for the Presidency of the USA. Ironically, Trump is describing a new form of Extreme Socialism - the 'Collectivisation of Commerce.'

It was Uncle Joe Stalin who abolished all private farming, and businesses, in Russia and deceived millions of starving peasants into following 'centrally-controlled 5 Year Agricultural and Industrial Plans?'

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IAmNotDarling · 24/01/2016 08:47

Well that's one way out of doing the C9 isn't it? At least there wasn't a photo showing miraculous weight loss a few days later!

MLM-bot watch - LIGHTHEARTED - continued discussion of Juice + Forever Living Younique etc as scams with laughing