MLm-bot watch - now including Timeless Vie!!

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Continuing the discussion of the MLMs Forever Living, Herbal Life, Juice Plus, Younique etc, plus our very own MN-MLM Timeless Vie!

www.facebook.com/timelessvie
twitter.com/timelessvie

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/legal_money_matters/2437667-MLM-bot-watch-FL-Juice-Plus-Younique-etc

Unless of course you are earning so much $$$$ that you get other people to move your stuff for you.

True

though she probably should have paid them to pack for her as well, save her having to have done it herself yesterday

says on her page she is earning 45k A MONTH. LOL- and renting??????

Heard its costing £4000 per month to rent, doesnt mention anything about renting though on the estate agents website. Littlemiss, you could be right about them veiwing today. We will have to keep an eye on this very strange situation

abcnews.go.com/2020/video/women-left-mary-kay-disappointed-34216650

CHECK THIS OUT - watch the classic reaction when bots are asked by a journalist how much $$ they actually make. Watch them fumble. Watch not one of them come up with an actual net profit number. HA!! (nicked from the other thread - thanks eyespy for the link)

I've been thinking this house move over. They were pulled up about it in the very first instance, they said they were buying then backed down when someone challenged them about it still being on the market, but people have been told it is not available to rent and it appears it is still on the market.

But why would someone lie so much about it? I know they say a 'lie breeds a lie' but why lie over something that can be so easily uncovered? Surely no-one could keep lying in that situation. Someone can't keep up a pretence of living in a house that they don't live in. So maybe they do live there.

But that gets me back to the first paragraph and it not making sense. If they were lying it would have been so easy to have backed down, without losing too much face - house moves fall through all the time. Is it a case of blind following and people not questioning it, mixed in with a mindset that means they struggle to tell the difference between reality and fantasy and of course 'fake it till you make it'

last I saw that abc news clip (from other thread ) and I too loved that bit where they were asked about actual income. All they needed to do was give the figures they submitted with their last year's income tax submission. It was very illuminating that they failed to do that.

The Mary Kay rep on the video is scary. The way she talks is very condescending/patronising. As you'd expect from a cult rep.

Lots of comments on her pics from people who clearly either have no clue that she is renting- or know that she is renting but are trying to convince the rest of the world that her 'hard work' has paid off

delusional

It's all very strange.

Maybe I have misjudged them and there is in fact millions to be made in FL.

someone on here recently noted that she had made a comment about 'borrowing' 120k off her parents. Maybe thats paying the rent

I wonder if MNHQ would consider getting Emma on for a webchat to teach us all how to be #bossbabes like her...

Tiredemma, here's the link mentioning the loan
Shortly after 22 minutes to cut to the chase. This is the 2015 global rally from April so it seems relevant to current claims made about a 45k monthly income turnover, if she is claiming that, I haven't seen myself. Why borrow money if she is indeed earning that a month?
Also worth noting that she mentions that her Dads wealth has always supported them to live a good life.
As for the house, this site states a let has been agreed. www.home.co.uk/for_rent/kemeys_folly/location?property=1251545177 (last checked 1st Oct)

Ambler, if you go on you tube there are several clips of Emma. One, where she is being interviewed and asked about her story. She admits coming from a wealthy family and she borrowed £120k from her parents for a deposit for a house before FL. She tells how much she has earned throughout her time with FL, and at the moment earns £40k per month. Now if I was earning that much I would stay in my house for the moment and save my money to buy "the house of my dreams". She has now put her perfectly lovely 4 bedroom, detached house on the market, and now renting that monstrosity at nearly £4k per month. Sorry but did not like it when I saw it on Grand Designs, but each to their own I suppose. £4k is nothing when you are earning that much (said with sarcasm )

Ah the loan was before FL, makes a lot more sense, thanks for clearing that up Annie65

I should apologise for being so cynical.

However one part of me wonders if I am indeed missing a trick here and I could be earning almost double in a month what I earn in a year, but then the other part of me knows the maths simply doesn't add up. If she is earning this much then I would be interested in knowing how, but if she isn't then she really is taking the 'fake it till you make it' to the extreme.

And if it was from savings why would you want to do that, surely it would be better to put that money towards your own mortgage?

Do you think there is still an element to her that next year she will make it? Either you can afford to buy it or you can't, but maybe next year will be 'her' year.

These people can only be successful if they persuade others (their downline) to subscribe and attempt to emulate their 'success'.

She has to continue the momentum achieved at the cultish 'success days' and constant mega-positive fb posts (liberally sprinkled with passive aggresive #hatersgonnahate posts) and the constant message that if you fail its because you didn't try hard enough.

This latest scam, to imply she has bought a dream house, is a big lie. We know she is no more than renting this property. We know she has personal family wealth which has enabled her to imply she is successful solely through her own efforts with fl. Its a terrible lie. There are people out there now scrabbling desperately to 'be successful' and they'll never achieve it like she apparently has.

Its not normal and its wrong on every level.

meh I don't believe a word. Not until I can see actual income statements, less expenses, a list of who is in her downline, how much they make, what % cut she takes, etc.

Not forgetting the 2nd business of planner/diaries at £30 each that they are involved in.

Ironically then, all those that aspire to be like her, are the very ones that are keeping her where she is.

There is some money from products, I know/of a few people doing the c9, but I guess the rest (and the majority) is from within the system.

Maybe as well the 'successful' ones are all propped up by money from elsewhere.

Actually earnings would be helpful, but it is just talk of bonuses and promotions in your self employed business I did see a post with a pay rise of 3k but with no further parameters.

It hurts my head just looking in, a seeming obsession with 'stuff' and money yet trying to promote this wonderful life/work balance.

She's put a link on her FB page of the house she's selling, all her bot's are talking about buying it as it's a good omen and whoever buys it will be as successful as she is! I simply can't believe she's earning over half a million pound a year selling aloe shit

so this happened (taken from Timeless VIe twitter account notification page)

the account has been added to a few MLM lists. i wonder how long it will take them to figure it out?

I've seen my bot trying to sell a Fl peppermint oil saying it will ward off spiders. Yep spiders. The sheer desperation.