Dr Shehata advice

[Wolfemum]

Hello, I am currently experiencing my 3rd consecutive miscarriage and my 2nd MMC. I have been told I will now be referred to the RMC unit but due to my age (42) i think I need to go privately and I was wondering what your opinions are on Dr Shehata? I've heard he has a brilliant reputation but is quite focused on NK cells and less on other things. Can anyone share their thoughts, opinions experiences?
My first pregnancy was healthy and resulted in my 6 year old boy but the last 2 MMC we saw a heartbeat at 6 weeks but then no growth or heartbeat at 7/8 weeks.
Many thanks for reading

@Hope646 😞😢 thinking of you. Xx

@whatsgoingon22 @JandL2020 @Lara8 last night was a nightmare. Before anything we managed to find a private scan almost around midnight. I thought I lost the baby after the heavy bleeding and pain.. all the signs were the same when I had my previous miscarriages. But the heart beat was good and the size was slightly bigger compare to my Friday scan.

I am so sorry to scare you ladies. I am so close to giving my hubby a heart attack. I feel so rubbish. But yesterday was different, it wasn’t just spotting and blood flow was heavy bright red. We were at relatives house for dinner. The moment we got to their house, the heavy bleeding started and I had to put this blank face trying hard to be ok. DH called few hospitals and Chelsea and Westminster on the phone suggested they can do the scan. Driving there for 45 mins, when we got to A&E, we waited almost 2 hours for doctor realising scan was most likely going to be the next day. They were not helpful at all, they couldn’t even give me a clear answer. I had to tell them there is no point of me waiting here for hours and to be told to come next day. so we left and DH managed to find a private scan in north London. We had to drive back another 45 mins. It’s called Numi scan in North Finchley if anyone needs an emergency scan. They were so helpful. They arranged sonographer late night from east London, opened the place just for us. They were so understanding and helpful. Did a detailed scan. They couldn’t see any sign of internal bleeding. So I still don’t know what caused the whole symptoms. I will let CRP know.
the bleeding has stopped now but I still feel the pain. For now I feel so relieved. I couldn’t believe when I saw the baby’s heartbeat on the scan. I thought it would be an empty sac.

Oh thank God @Hope646 🙏🏻❤️how scary for you. It’s like hell especially when you have been there before ☹️ but so happy everything was okay. Defo let Crp know today. They may want to see you again sooner than your next appointment but no harm I guess if you are feeling anxious. wow never realised you could get an emergency scan like that on a Sunday in the middle of the night - that’s unreal - well done DH on that find! Thank God everything is okay for you ❤️as long as you and baby are okay that’s the main thing xxx

@Hope646 bloody hell what a nightmare you’ve been through. So glad everything is okay. I would get your progesterone checked and have crp review you asap. I know women bleed a lot during pregnancy but when it’s heavy it’s obviously very scary and you want to know what caused it?! You must be shattered today hope you are okay xxx

Just had this when I wiped. Sorry for image. Going out of my mind 😞 scan is Thursday, just thinking it’s going to be bad news now and need to prepare myself.

@JandL2020 morning lovely. Feeling for you right now. Firstly, there is no harm in popping to the EPU for a reassurance scan if Thursday is feeling too far for you. The blood DOESN’T always mean miscarriage although I know for a lot of us this is where our heads go to first, due to trauma. I hope you can take the day off today and be kind to yourself. It’s such a hellish journey. I’m thinking of you and your not alone xxxxx

@JandL2020 also sending you hugs today for the anniversary of you father in-law. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

@Lara8 thank you ❤️❤️ been awake most of the night. A lovely sunrise this morning resembling the same time last year we lost him. We are going to cemetery at lunch time and going for dinner tonight but otherwise going to take it very easy today. I wish I had got an earlier scan now. I just have a lot of trauma with EPU also. It’s where we lost the twins. It’s where they diagnosed my ectopic and same ward I had to stay on for the surgery. Although they have been lovely and they said to call them when I was next pregnant. I don’t think a few days will change anything and would fuel my anxiety. I just think I am doomed to be honest. The last 5 years have been an absolute shit show. I don’t even know who I am anymore.
I went into work yesterday and it was quite busy..one of the lovely nurses did my bloods for me. There was an option to tick “b-hcg” I really wish I had now so at least I would know if it was going in the right direction?? I honestly don’t think they would have noticed what it was cos they are men 🤣 progesterone wasn’t an option so that must be a special request. I am on so much though…3 pessaries and 2 injections!! can’t really afford to me on anymore! Xx

@whatsgoingon22 @JandL2020 thank you so much ladies. Honestly it was a nightmare and it took us whole day yesterday to recover.

@JandL2020 the photo you posted, I have had many like that in the beginning. Now it’s mainly brown discharge when wiping. It is sooo triggering. But I think that’s could be from implantation or even progesterone.

Bleeding has stopped and it’s just been brown spotting since yesterday morning and this morning when wiping, a brown clot was on the tissue. Sorry it is gross. I have marked it as sensitive if you don’t want to look. Now I can’t stop thinking about it. I keep telling myself everything is fine but then something new appears. I have emailed the photo to cpr, I am not sure what they will advice. If it is the fetus, I am sure I would have felt the pain and it would be heavy bleeding this moment. What else could it be?

@Hope646 i hope you are right.
I just had a look at the picture you posted. I don’t think that is the fetus/sac. You would definitely feel that too and have pain and cramps. Hope crp can advise what they think it could be.. I’m wondering whether to email them but they can’t do anything…without a scan it’s impossible to know if things are okay. It’s just so horrible the waiting 😞 xx

@JandL2020 try and stay positive.. I know That is far easier said than done. To me the blood/ tissue looks very minor and watery so I really hope that it’s just the progesterone or implantation. 2 more days.. you’ve got this girl ❤️.
also sending love today to you and your husband. Hopefully it’s not too painful for you both

@Hope646 what an ordeal.. second the others on having a husband that didn’t give up. The A&E departments are mental basically don’t go at a weekend or evening if you want anything to be done. So glad they found the heartbeat easily.

personally I would say that’s probably what has caused the bleeding. Could be anything.. maybe just a bit of left over tissue. I had a miscarriage at 9 weeks but baby was only 6 weeks and believe me the pains and amount of blood / clots were considerably bigger than this. When is your next scan?

@Lara8 how you feeling about testing? Xx

@MeganBistram thank you for the positive vibes ❤️❤️I’ve been taken the pessaries up the back door and haven’t had sex so its not either of those things. It didn’t even feel like a gush like the last time so when I wiped I was shocked to see it. So I think like you said it’s very light/minor. Hope you’re doing okay Xx

Morning ladies, hope you’re all okay ❤️@JandL2020 how are you now? Has it continued/eased off/any brown? I thought the exact same thing as @MeganBistram when I saw it- looks quite light/watery so hopefully it’s just something minor mixed with discharge?
our bodies are so strange, I passed a brown clot a few days ago and I was like oh maybe that’s the clot that they saw on the scan but I still have some brown spotting since. And I’ve definitely had more spotting over the last few weeks that would account for the small clot they saw on the scan - I don’t know what the reason is but I the same as you and @Hope646 just pray it’s nothing more sinister ❤️🙏🏻 @JandL2020 i hear you about the Epu trauma, no joke we have changed hospitals this time for that reason. We now have to travel 30 mins rather 10 for appointments but I feel happier going to the new hospital to be honest. I would let CRP know about the bleed, Dr edge wasn’t too happy with me when I hadn’t told them before my first scan and she got me to stop the aspirin then.
@Hope646 how are you doing darling? You’d definitely 100% know if you had miscarried (i passed out with contraction like pains and bleeding was constant (baby was 9 weeks) so don’t panic it’s probably just old blood coming out after the recent bleed and better that it’s now brown. I passed a similar one a few days ago and still have a bit of spotting (im
praying it’s the clot they saw on the previous scan). Rollercoaster ride ey ladies? Never a flipping dull moment, so unfair, wish we could just relax and enjoy but chance would be a fine thing.
@MeganBistram do you have your appointments this week lovely? Hope they go well for you xxx are you off all your meds now?

@JandL2020 totally get that about EPU, it holds a lot of darkness for me too. I’ll be thinking of you on Thursday. Sounds like a powerful sunrise this morning ❤️

@MeganBistram i am not feeling hopeful for testing on Thursday. I tested yesterday with a cheapy at 8DPO and was negative (just to torture myself). I have had cramping but I think it’s the pessaries. No symptoms only finding it hard to drop off to sleep with steroids. Was your line quite clear what you tested?

@whatsgoingon22 I have my scan on Thursday, according to their dates I will be 17 weeks. I had the midwife yesterday and she found the HB very easily which was nice but I am filled with dread the baby has not been growing or there is an abnormality they will find on Thursday.

@Lara8 I tested completely negative on 10DPO, stopped the drugs and then didnt come on my period and tested on 13DPO and it was a line but not that stong on the early test xx

Wow @MeganBistram thats amazing. 17 weeks is some achievement. Is that nhs or crp? So glad the M/w found the heartbeat yesterday, I think I’d be too scared to get a Doppler personally but I imagine it has given you some relief over the last few weeks. I’m sure everything will be fine darling, you have done so well so far and everything has been in check thankfully 🥰I am scared for my nhs one on Friday also, worried that everything is okay with the constant on/off spotting, brown clot and symptoms coming and going and also about the growth given we were two days out with nhs and one with crp plus the last time we got to 12 weeks the papp- a was low so worried that could happen again as that brings its own issues. Never ending worries 🫤

@Lara8 good luck darling, thinking of you. I had the faintest line at 11 and 12 - genuinely was chucking day 11s in the bin and double took. Good luck lovely. Cramping could be a good sign early on 🙏🏻

@whatsgoingon22 its stopped now. I do feel a bit heavy.thanks for advice I’ve emailed crp. X

Nurse replied. She said although pink in colour it appears mucousy which she said is reassuring.
been advised to stop aspirin
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I emailed the photo to CRP and spoke to one of the nurses. She was very reasurring and said the same thing as you ladies. She said it looks very much like old blood collection and the good thing is there is no bleeding. i think it becomes a concern to them when the heavy bleeding continues for longer with cramps. Ahh ladies it never stops. I keep telling myself everything is good and then i get trigerred by something new like this. btw I have stopped aspirin now.

@MeganBistram thank you for the advice lovely. my scan is next friday. That would be the 10 week scan. I am so happy with how far you have come. 17 weeks thats amazing. Wishing you all the good luck for your scan. keep us posted xx
Did you do any harmony scan/test or the fetus medicine that they call at crp?

@whatsgoingon22 thank you for the positive vibe. I am so grateful I have you lovely ladies here. Good luck for your scan on Friday. I have got everything crossed for you. With these spottings, its never easy to 100% feel relaxed. But I see it is so common and it could be the medications. I was told it could be the high blood flow that is causing blood vessels to be sensitive. Especially if I haven't come this far with any of my previous pregs before so my body is not used to it.

How many scans have you had with NHS? I called the hospital where I self referred myself hoping they can see me before my week 12 scan but they refused to provide any extra care. I even told them about my bleeding. they just told me to visit any local EPU.

@JandL2020 I am happy the bleeding has stopped for you. I think it could be from implantation. CRP might ask you to stop aspirin if the spotting or bleeding continues until your scan with them.

@Lara8 good luck for your test hun. honestly that early you never know. I have got everything crossed for you.

Sending all the luck and positive vibes to those of you currently pregnant! Keeping everything crossed for you all.

I hope it’s okay to ask but I’m quite early on in CRP journey and have a couple of questions that are bothering me. Firstly how do you keep the hope?! I’ve only had two cycles with them so far and I just feel so hopeless like it’s never going to work - did others feel like this? Secondly, I’ve read so much conflicting advice on when to start the progesterone (ie from ovulation could stop implantation and from positive test seems popular) - I asked Dr S about it and he dismissed my concerns quickly and said from ovulation. How many cycles did it take people to conceive on the plan? Any advice or just solidarity would be great 🙏🏻

@KamoHel hey, I guess keeping hope
for me is out of desperation. It doesn’t come easy as it’s matched with pain. I feel I will have to have a cut off point where I stop trying though as I’m putting the rest of living on hold, hard to make this definitive line though. I am
also trying to keep other enjoyable things in life as little milestones alongside? Like holidays etc.
I am also feeling the hopelessness and worried that it’s never going to work. Im 39 so time is ticking.

Test day: So I tested just now on day 10 and there is no line. It was my first cycle under DR S care. Disappointed as the drugs were mimicking pregnancy (fatigue, cramping, mild nausea, peeing more). Not sure if I should take the steroids and pessaries today if no line but that would mean I’ve only taken they 9 days. What has everyone else done?

It’s so disappointing as it’s taken ages to get to here with all the waiting for 4 humira jabs to kick in etc. I guess I have to be patient.

@KamoHel hello and welcome 😀 I started to lose hope a long time ago but it comes back again in waves…. I see no alternative but to carry on …I’ve come this far not to keep going???…at least until I have no embryos left (I’m doing ivf). Plus I’m infertile.
as for progesterone. In ivf I take it 5 days before transfer which in a natural cycle is from ovulation. It helps to prepare the lining. Personally I would ignore dr google/Karen and go with a consultants advice. I’m currently pregnant (4th round of IVF) and I have viability scan tomorrow so no idea yet if this extra help with immune protocol has helped me. Best of luck xx

@Lara8 ❤️ do you have a rough idea of when you ovulated? 10 days is not that long, I think some others of here were only getting faint lines 12 days. So keep up with medication until then I think.
do you think you’ll try super ovulation if this cycle isn’t successful? X

@KamoHel welcome, its such a tough one to say how long it will take. It only took 2 months for us but we tend to fall pregnant quick quickly. On the first cycle I followed exactly and did on ovulation, then second I did it 3 days DPO and fell pregnant. I think it depends on your circumstances.. if you have a progesterone issue then start sooner, if its unlikely to be the cause a lot of people recommend 3 days DPO or at positive test ( if you're with a recurrent miscarriage specialist ). I am currently 17 weeks tomorrow and got my scan.

@Lily1990 sorry I know it sucks when you see that negative line especially with all the protocol we are doing and the waiting. try again tonight when you have not drunk alot all afternoon, I didnt get a positive until day 13 and it was stronger in the eve. I would stop them.. I did and it was fine to restart if you are pregnant and if you're not it will prelong your period which you don't want.

@JandL2020 so pleased that CRP think its nothing to worry about. I may unknowingly bump into you tomorrow. Fingers and toes crossed for your first scan.

@Hope646 I did the harmony and the fetal scan, but didn't do the harmony unitl 13 weeks when the risk of my Platau with CRP came back high. The fetal scan is good and only £70 diff. ( ONLY I say haha )

10 weeks is such a milestone.. Best of luck and so glad the bleeding has stopped.

@whatsgoingon22 good luck for Friday xxx

@MeganBistram thanks hun. I was pleased with their prompt and kind response. Oh we may do! My scan is at 12. I’ll be crying in waiting room and if it’s bad news probably be howling and running out the door 😞 anyway positive vibes..Managed to work from home today. Got a new member of staff who’s doing my head in and not being a team player so they are stressing me out even though im sat all day and taking it easy! My boss is off sick so I can’t even tell her. I didn’t really want to tell her until after my scan tomorrow so she can make adjustments. It’s just getting awkward now! Xx