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Dr Shehata advice

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Wolfemum · 10/02/2023 08:58

Hello, I am currently experiencing my 3rd consecutive miscarriage and my 2nd MMC. I have been told I will now be referred to the RMC unit but due to my age (42) i think I need to go privately and I was wondering what your opinions are on Dr Shehata? I've heard he has a brilliant reputation but is quite focused on NK cells and less on other things. Can anyone share their thoughts, opinions experiences?
My first pregnancy was healthy and resulted in my 6 year old boy but the last 2 MMC we saw a heartbeat at 6 weeks but then no growth or heartbeat at 7/8 weeks.
Many thanks for reading

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whatsgoingon22 · 06/09/2023 14:05

Hey all xx urghhhhh it was my turn this morning, went to toilet and wiped dark red/brown enough to cover the tissue and drip into the bowl ☹️☹️had felt a bit achey last night before bed but hoped it was just movement etc seems to have tapered off since and is more like brown spotting now. My stomach churned this morning. Feel a little ‘aware’ or sensitive there so just going to try and rest the rest of the day. Called Epu - no reply, emailed nhs midwife - no reply and emailed CRP who said it sounds okay as long as I’m not getting an active bleeding or bad pains. Is anyone else with me on being avoidant with the scans? Like I could probably push for one for tomorrow with CRP at least but just so scared to even go ☹️☹️urghhh.

hi @KamoHel oh lord hope what is that?! I don’t know if i could keep going - same as @Lara8 it’s been taking 4 years now and I have put so much on hold. Anyways I hope and pray ❤️🙏🏻that this time it works out but I was on my 3rd round of everything but to be honest we didn’t try very hard the first two months as my head was in a bad place.
@Lara8 sorry darling, up to you but i would prob give it one More day and one more test. Don’t worry about Humira too much - it stays in our system for up to 12 months I believe.

@MeganBistram thank you xx

good luck tomorrow @JandL2020 and @Hope646, do you have one too?

oh lord, I feel I’ve aged about 90 years in the past 4 with all of this.

love to all xxxx

Hope646 · 06/09/2023 17:50

hey @KamoHel welcome to the group. It is tough to keep up the hope during the fertility journey. Luckily, I fell pregnant during the third cycle under Dr. S protocol. I was panicking after second cycle but then I knew the next plan after third cycle would have been Super ovulation for me so that kept the hope for me. Seeing positive stories here and on other groups gave me so much hope too and that kept me going. How long have you been trying in general?

@MeganBistram thank you so much. I booked myself for fetal scan for now. When I showed a bit of hesitation, I was told by one of the nurses to just go for fetal scan for now which would cover almost everything that Harmony scan covers and if further investigation is needed, then I can go for harmony later. That was helpful of her to share that advice. I am feeling nervous what will come from these scans. Sometimes I question it, God forbid if a concern is raised, can they actually cure it? If not then I would be just stressing over the outcome for the rest of pregnancy.

@whatsgoingon22 ahhh hun. that must have been scary. it is so triggering. The good thing is that it has stopped. That is the main thing. It might be sensitive blood vessels. I still get spottings and i feel more pain the sec I see the blood. It really plays with our head. I have noticed sometimes when i overwork, I get more spotting. and then I keep telling myself I cannot just be lying down for the rest of pregnancy. There are women who work until a week before their due date. But I have started accepting it is different for every women. I wish it was easy for us but we will get there. When is your next scan? I have got my scan next Friday which feel too long away.

JandL2020 · 06/09/2023 18:39

@whatsgoingon22 oh no! So bloody stressful and worrying 😞 I’m glad it’s stopped.. can you get a reassurance scan anywhere? I get feeling from crp they don’t really do emergency scans but I might be wrong. If I get bad news tomorrow I fully expect they won’t be able to do anything and send me to my local epu for advice. Pretty frustrating with the money we are paying but hey ho. I get your anxiety about not wanting to have a scan though..I really don’t want mine tomorrow but I know I need to have it. I know I’ll be a nervous wreck. I just have a weird feeling it’s not going to be okay. Im usually right about these things.
@Hope646 also I echo what you say about doing more equals spotting. So when I spotted on Monday it was after a busy day of driving seeing patients and general stress…and I didn’t really stop. Also thinking the heat could have something to do with it too?!
the wait for scans must be unbearable. I have one tomorrow, one next Tuesday then
ill have another at 8 weeks with crp.
then I’ll have one at 9 weeks with epu I think then 10 weeks with crp. Literally I don’t think I can last 2 weeks in between scans. Xx

luckily been super busy today so my mind has been occupied with is good.
not long to wait now arghhhhhhhh
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

Hope646 · 07/09/2023 08:56

@JandL2020 thinking of you. Got everything crossed for you. Sending you lots of love and well wishes ❤️ I am feeling positive for you

JandL2020 · 07/09/2023 09:05

@Hope646 thank you. Feeling very sick this morning and hardly slept. Xx

whatsgoingon22 · 07/09/2023 09:10

good luck darling @JandL2020 ❤️❤️❤️ we’re all rooting for you ❤️🙏🏻 xxx

JandL2020 · 07/09/2023 09:12

Thank you @whatsgoingon22 ❤️❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻🤞🤞🤞xxx

MeganBistram · 07/09/2023 11:29

@JandL2020 i am downstairs having my intrilipids. Wishing every luck. Come on little bean xx

JandL2020 · 07/09/2023 11:54

@MeganBistram is this your last one? They are running late by half hour so we have to wait. I cried I know it’s out of their control. Hope everything went well with scan xx

MeganBistram · 07/09/2023 12:39

Oh know @JandL2020 I could have popped by. You’re bound to be set off by everything and they are very used to crying :) scan was all good. Baby was fine.. the doctor knows what it is but I don’t lol. Had to shut my eyes 👀. Keep us updated xx

JandL2020 · 07/09/2023 13:24

@MeganBistram I know lol! aww that’s good news…you guys want a surprise then? ❤️

the scan went well. One baby only measuring one day ahead at 6 weeks 4 days. It doesn’t feel real! The heart beat was strong and regular and we got to see and hear it on the screen.
no explanation for the spotting so advised to keep off aspirin for at least 5 days.
We just couldn’t believe it!
this is such a milestone for us
xx

KatyTTC · 07/09/2023 13:31

@MeganBistram how perfectly gorgeous!!! The best surprise in the entire world!! Over the moon for you!

@JandL2020 my goodness!!!! What wonderful wonderful news!! Congratulations!! Hearing that beautiful heartbeat must have been the best feeling in the world!! Im over the moon for you too!!

A day of wonderful news so far ❤️

@Lara8 how did you get on? Thinking of you so much today xxx

KReed15 · 07/09/2023 13:49

Hey all, I have felt like such a stalker for the past few weeks (😂) regularly checking in on this post, and keeping everything crossed for you all! 💖 People always tell you to “stay off forums” as you’ll “end up down a rabbit hole”, but I genuinely think the support & little community on these forums is just amazing.

We’re yet to begin Shehata’s complex plan, I start a new job in October so it’s far from ideal timing wise. But I guess there never is a right time! We had 3 miscarriages all around 8 weeks last year, so every nervous and anxious at the thought of even starting. I might ask some questions when we do start if that’s okay, but until then, I just wanted to say I’ll be keeping you all in my thoughts! 🤍

Katie xxx

JandL2020 · 07/09/2023 14:12

@KatyTTC thanks hun. I hope you’re doing okay. Xx
@KReed15 welcome 😀 I’m regularly stalking other forums on mumsnet and only really post on this group. There is also an immune group on conception/infertility forum which has useful info also.

I would say I have an unhealthy obsession with mumsnet and dr google lol!
I started a new job in January when I found I was pregnant naturally by some miracle but ended. There is never a right time and a job will always be there. I’m so sorry for your losses. Have faith the treatment will work that’s all i will say. Im also on complex plan xx

MeganBistram · 07/09/2023 14:13

@JandL2020 omg this is simply amazing. Is this the first heartbeat you have seen? One little baby is perfect 😍.

I am going to find out.. but with everything that’s happened I want to make sure everything is all ok before we do. Might try and do a gender reveal as we won’t do a baby shower this time 😍 xx

JandL2020 · 07/09/2023 14:38

@MeganBistram yes we’ve never heard a heartbeat or got past 6 week scan. Think other half is quite relieved that we are not having twins.
that’s fair enough, gender reveal sounds like fun.
just got home …got a bloody parking ticket…so on top of £400 plus got to pay £60 arghh all because my poxy GP doesn’t give enough parking spaces and I was in an unmarked bay.
was gonna go out for dinner tonight but maybe we won’t lol xx

Lara8 · 07/09/2023 15:08

@JandL2020 incredibly happy to read this! Such wonderful news. I hope that you can relax a little more for now. What a journey you’ve had recently.

@MeganBistram how exciting! Again, so pleased things are progressing so well. I really hope you can begin to sink into the magic of it all a bit more. Without the waves of anxiety.

@KatyTTC thanks for checking in. So I’m not pregnant despite lots of symptoms. These are definitely the drugs. The steroids are making me wake up so early and hungry. And the pessaries lots of cramps. I am disappointed and cried this morning. We tried loads and I usually get pregnant easily (but just can’t keep them) but it’s the first round so hopefully soon.

@KReed15 welcome. Sorry to hear of your losses I also has 4 last year, it’s brutal. Wishing you so much luck with this program.

Also, so nice you guys were in the same building today. And both have good news ♥️xxxxx

JandL2020 · 07/09/2023 15:38

@Lara8 thanks hun. I’m really sorry to hear this cycle hasn’t worked. I really feel for you
ladies trying naturally, there are lot more uncertainties. It could take a couple of rounds but it will work 🙂 xx

Hope646 · 07/09/2023 16:04

@JandL2020 OMG!!! You have no idea how happy I am for you. This just made my day. That's a huge milestone. Welldone for not giving up after everything you have gone through. So proud of you. Hearing the first heartbeat is sooo special and I am so so so glad this was your day.

@MeganBistram This is sooo exciting. So pleased its been a great progress. I am sure planning a gender reveal will be fun. So happy for you.

@Lara8 ahh it is never easy when you have so much more hope once you are under a protocol. It will happen very soon. with the medication, my cycle was a bit messed up so that might be the reason why it may take more than 1 cycle. Each cycle that I did not concieve, I kept telling myself, maybe my body is not ready yet and it will happen once it get used to the medication and once it is ready. It will work xx

@KReed15 welcome. So sorry for your losses. There might be alot of questions and uncertainty. But have faith and you will reach your milestones too. We had 3 early miscarriages all around 6 weeks last year too and this is the first time I have reached the 9th week so far after being under Dr. S treatment.

JandL2020 · 07/09/2023 16:28

@Hope646 thank you so much. it was such a lovely moment and Dr Edge was so nice.

thoughts on this ladies…
my other half doesn’t want to come to the ivf clinic scan on Tuesday. Said there’s no point. But I’m still really worried about being on my own and receiving bad news. Not sure he really gets it. i know I just need to get on with it and I can’t expect him to come to every scan. Plus I need to sort out my prescription and that no doubt will take them ages.

crp can’t fit us in from 8 week scan until 22nd September. Super frustrating and would have liked less of a gap between my 7 week one and 8 weeks where I will be 8 +4
I know this obsession with scans is probably not healthy
I registered with nhs midwife today. It’s all abit strange. The App is very much “everything will be okay” and offers groups for already mums and expecting. All a bit daunting to be honest. Hopefully I’ll have a nice midwife I can talk this all through with (I don’t think they call you until 8 week mark) and I’m going to keep up with the counselling if the ivf clinic will fund more sessions for me.
my other half has paid my parking fine (I didn’t ask him to) - so romantic. And he is taking me out for dinner (after I said i was not paying lol)
xx

whatsgoingon22 · 07/09/2023 19:16

ohhhh @JandL2020 im soooooo happy for you!!! This is great news!! Was thinking of you all day! It’s so surreal and a rollercoaster of emotions but amazing that everything is on track!! Well done! You make sure you enjoy your dinner out tonight well deserved. Yeh I hear you about wanting someone there, is there anyone else who could come with you next week? It’s hard because we are always so on edge no matter when we got the last bit of good news.

@MeganBistram you are flying it!! So amazing and an inspiration to us all on here!! Well done! What happens with Crp now? I don’t think I would want to let them go 😂!! So funny that you were both in there today!! 🥰

@Lara8 sorry darling that things didn’t work out this month ❤️❤️❤️but don’t give up and remember the backing of all the drugs for next month can only be a good thing! Do some nice stuff to enjoy yourself for the next few weeks if you can xxx

@KReed15 welcome aboard!! This has been a lovely little group with ZERO judgement just support.lf anything I come running here if I have a problem or worry and everyone has been super kind and helpful. Thank you for your well wishes and I would just what I’ve learnt is don’t procrastinate- because we can’t plan for Anything in this game. I switched jobs a few years ago, got pregnant was freaking out about lack of maternity pay and then unfortunately had a miscarriage. Ive been in two permanent positions over the past 5 years and have put off changing jobs and going contracting(/earning more) because I thought I’d miss out on maternity leave- 4 years later and I’ve still not had to use the maternity leave (yet*🤞🏼🙏🏻) we don’t know what our future holds so just go with your heart xxx

@Hope646 sending you love and good luck for next week too xxx

As for me - I’ve had more brown again this afternoon- urgh that feeling when you’re walking and you feel something move down there 🙈 I’m really nervous about my scan tomorrow because of all this brown bleeding and spotting 😭we had a M/c at 12 weeks and few days in the past and I’m so scared now to face this appointment tomorrow. Really hope and pray that everything will be okay and baby will be healthy and everything will be in check ❤️🙏🏻but it’s just so so hard each time❤️❤️❤️

MeganBistram · 07/09/2023 20:40

@JandL2020 I am a bit funny with scans.. my husband is super chilled and other than the ones where I get super panicked he is ever the optimist and I think is treating this pregnancy like a breeze ( other than the blue balls lol ) so he only comes to the NHS ones.. that and it’s so far for us both to come, both to miss work and get back in time for picking our son up. I think if you’re anxious you should take someone. If for nothing else you need a person to cry on before the appointment 🥰

my midwife is incredible she has seen me the last three miscarriages and so has been available when needed. Once you explain your history I think she will be very understanding. Yay to husband taking you out and paying your ticket 🙋‍♀️

@whatsgoingon22 it is so hard.. and I hate to say even when you cross that barrier of your latest loss the anxiety continues.. it moves onto being something else. You just have to keep telling yourself., this time is different.. you have done absolutely everything… this baby will be fine ❤️ will be thinking about you xx

@Hope646 how are you feeling about next week?

@KReed15 hi Katie. This group have been a life saver.. we are definitely all here for support only. Absolutely no judgement. If you have any questions do please ask xx

JandL2020 · 07/09/2023 20:55

@whatsgoingon22 thanks so much. It really is a rollercoaster. Have to try and get through next 2 weeks. Next week I have things to look forward to…seeing Ricky gervais and going to a dog show, and start part time uni course on 18th September (possibly not the best timing) but thought it would be a good distraction. Instead of buying uni books I’ve bought a pregnancy after loss book by Zoe Coates. it’s apparently a good read for those who have gone through earlier losses. I could ask my work colleague to come. She knows as it would have been impossible to hide it from her working on same team and she’s really protective of me bless her.
😞 I hate that feeling. Brown blood I think you are okay cos it’s old. Hopefully scan will reassure you. It’s so difficult every single time though. Xx

KatyTTC · 07/09/2023 23:03

@whatsgoingon22 wishing you so much luck for tomorrow 🤞🏻❤️.

@KReed15 hello! Sorry I didn’t say hello
earlier in the thread!
Im so sorry for your losses 💔.
I absolutely love this group. SO much support and genuine care from a group of women who’ve never met! It’s extraordinary but so comforting!! As everyone else said… ask away!

@Lara8 im so sorry 😢. Is it possible it’s just too early? I know it doesn’t really help when you’re trying to get your head around the negative result and move forward but 10dpo is really early.
And if it really is a negative then have a few little treats this month to keep you going. Sushi, rare steak and a few drinks are my favs!! Sending you lots of love ❤️. And cry all you need to. I always feel emotional the day or 2 after a negative test xx

JandL2020 · 08/09/2023 08:11

@MeganBistram my other half is quite chilled too…too chilled. I think I’ll go on my own.
I have full on morning Nausea at the moment …I thought the prednisone would keep it at bay. Obviously not fully then by week 6/7.

hope you ladies don’t melt today. xx

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