Dr Shehata advice

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Hello, I am currently experiencing my 3rd consecutive miscarriage and my 2nd MMC. I have been told I will now be referred to the RMC unit but due to my age (42) i think I need to go privately and I was wondering what your opinions are on Dr Shehata? I've heard he has a brilliant reputation but is quite focused on NK cells and less on other things. Can anyone share their thoughts, opinions experiences?
My first pregnancy was healthy and resulted in my 6 year old boy but the last 2 MMC we saw a heartbeat at 6 weeks but then no growth or heartbeat at 7/8 weeks.
Many thanks for reading

@MeganBistram fab news 🥰
@KatyTTC average cost of ovulation induction at my ivf which includes scans etc is between £1200-£1500 so you need to total up cost of it at CRP
the scan price seems excessive since you can have a 3d saline scan for that amount

@JandL2020 how are
you getting on? Have you started
prepping for ivf? I can’t remember when you said you were having the next round… August maybe? Sending you every ounce of luck 🤞🏻

@MeganBistram how fun going to Centreparcs! I haven’t been since I was a child. Have a fab time and how lovely spending a week with your parents. I bet that’s the best place to be at the moment ❤️.

@Hope646 how are you getting on with the sticks? Any joy?

@Lily1990 I decided to just go for it and take the 5mg and do SO this month. I had such a wobble about it this morning and my husband just said ‘what are you waiting for?’. It was a good question!! So we’ve jumped in feet first and are giving it a go. I’ll call on Monday and book the first (extortionate!) scan. God knows why the first is so expensive. The rest are £290. I’ll ask when I call on monday and let you all know!

Hoping you all have a lovely weekend. Where’s the summer weather??!! Xx

Ps
@MeganBistram thats a good thought about doing the scan elsewhere. I
might call a few other clinics near me and see what they charge for that. Didn’t occur to me to go elsewhere! I think if I need the trigger shot I’ll have to have the scan at CRP though 😬 xx

Hey @KatyTTC not too bad thanks, back from holiday, just want to get on with things now. Start medication when my period comes should be next few days then have nurse app on Tuesday morning. All my medication arrives today. My wardrobe is a pharmacy 🤣
Best of luck for the ovulation cycle.
@MeganBistram have a great week at centre parcs…perhaps skip the cyclone 🌀 🤣

not doing much this weekend. Weather is shite indeed 🤣

@MeganBistram Good luck for your scan on 31st July. Hope you have a lovely week with your family. Being occupied and having a good time always help to keep mind distracted.
Thank you so much for the assurance. So, with your son, you did not see any sign of ovulation on OPK? Btw I am based in London. By ovulation tracker, is that the blood test on day 21 (if cycle is 28) to see if I have ovulated? Or it is a scan closer to ovulation day to see if I will be ovulating? What would you recommend?
It is so hard to pay £380 for intralipid each time. I may feel ok once I am pregnant but right now it feels such a waste with that high charge. Were they ok with you having your intralipid elsewhere?

@KatyTTC no sign yet. I am on day 14 of day 28 cycle. I should be or should have ovulated by now. I have been taking the tests in the morning and evening, blank face, and no line on the strips. I will carry on with the testing for another 4-5 days just in case I am having a longer cycle than usual like your last cycle. Even though this has never happened to me before. I am not sure what is going on but really trying hard to stay calm. Good luck for this cycle? Is it your first time taking letrozole? Please let us know once you find out why they would be charging £490 for the first scan. That’s too much.

@Lily1990 I have been using preseed. Hoping it will make a difference. Where did you do your ovulation induction? Is that different from Superovulation treatment?

Just want to say I honestly appreciate each one of you lovely ladies in here 🤗. Even though I don’t know any of you personally, being connected here has been a massive support emotionally. You guys keep me going 🙏

Morning all, sorry for radio silence, have been away for a few days. The GP refused to do repeat HCg tests, I’m away until Thursday and have a scan on Friday morning. Symptoms still haven’t been very obvious/consistent. And lo and behold I’ve just woken up to some spotting this morning. Im so annoyed, almost every time it happens at around the 6 week stage. I’ve been taking all my medication as prescribed, trying not to stress, trying to keep distracted and not focus on things and I still get this crap happening again. I’m so so so upset. I’m away from my husband too and now have to wait until Friday.

@whatsgoingon22 oh I am so sorry to hear this lovely. I hope that its just the progesterone that is making you spot and the symptom's are being masked by the steroids.
Those first two weeks before the scan are horrific especially with the added pressure of being on all these drugs which are supposed to give us our miracle babies. I will check in Friday but I keep everything crossed for you xx

@Hope646 any sign of the lines yet? The day 21 is supposed to be 7 days after you ovulate but as you're on progesterone I am not sure it will actually tell you too much as it will be elevated from that?

I am in another little Tiff with CRP, My NHS scan is the 7th of August which is the same day as when I was due my scan and intralipds at CRP. I want to keep my NHS one as my husband can come and the NHS take over care soon so want to them to be involved. My options are limited as the 4 weeks from the last lot is the 9th and I can't go before then as at my folks ( the scan on the 31st is Harley street and they don't do them there )
So I said I can either do the 14th which falls out of protocol or I can do them at the clinic 10 mins from me on the 7th within protocol... and guess what, They just flatline refuse and say I need to cancel my NHS one.

What to do? I just feel like they are just trying to make money.. surely its safer to just let me have it at the clinic near me for the safest option for my baby? urrrhhh rant over.. xx

@MeganBistram oh wow, that’s really frustrating about the scans and CRP. Not surprised unfortunately 😔they honestly think we have money growing out of our arses.
I wiped some brown this evening 😔hope it’s just a one off but every time this has happened to me I have ended up having missed miscarriages. I thought the progesterone was supposed to stop the bleeding @MeganBistram ?

Does anyone know much about egg quality testing? Is it only through IVF that it can be done ? Like am I pumping all this money into reducing inflammation etc and actually maybe my eggs are shite quality. Sorry for all the negativity, just so fed up now. Xx

@whatsgoingon22 hi lovely. Really sorry to hear you’ve had spotting and your GP poor response. I would remind them of the new government pledges to support women in pregnancy and recurrent miscarriages. I had same problem, I cried and shouted at this poor GP. Made a complaint…all because she wouldn’t repeat my hcg and prescribe progesterone. It’s liking banging head against a brick wall. They don’t realise how damaging it is to our mental health. Hopefully the spotting is nothing to worry about. Got everything crossed for you.
re: egg quality. It’s impossible to know but A few factors really…age, general health, pcos? I was 33 I think then I had my fresh ivf. I was convinced my miscarriages were due to bad batch of embryos …but they are all grade A. We didn’t have Icsi and I wondered if that was a factor, but if the sperm was that bad, it wouldn’t have fertilised?? You can test your embryos with ivf but I decided against it as can damage in frozen. If I did another fresh round then I would test them. Ivf is really a numbers game.
@Hope646 fingers crossed for you. I totally understand that it feels strange to pay this money when not pregnant yet. I guess we have to try and trust that it will work at some point. I agree- This group is massive help to me.
@MeganBistram nhs scan is important cos they need to take over care at some point??
what is stopping you going local just for this one time? Have crp said they would discharge you? Hope you having fun at CP.

looks like ill be having my embryos transfer on 12th August. So need to book in my first infusion soon. Do they make you pay for it over the phone? I don’t know if I’ll need it if my lining doesn’t thicken enough etc so the nurse told me to wait until I’ve had my first scan
I’m excited but mostly just scared to be honest xx

@whatsgoingon22 i have everything crossed for you. I can feel feel how stressful this is for you right now :-( It’s like your heart sinks with sight of that brown discharge. I really hope all is ok and that it is different this time for you. It’s so triggering!

@MeganBistram thats just madness that they can’t accommodate both scans. I wonder if you could move the time of the nhs scan instead, I know they are going to be running with a tighter schedule but it’s worth a go. It’s like you have to play by their rules and there is no wiggle room, so frustrating!

I do my fourth and my last humira jab today and then I’ll be starting my first intralipid and medication at the end of august with ovulation. So pleased to be done with these horrible jabs. I feel my neck glands have been swollen for weeks!

Just a quick one. I’ll reply/post properly this eve.
Just wanted to check in on @whatsgoingon22. how are you this morning? I feel for you so so much. I can’t imagine how upset/stressed/anxious you must feel having pinned all your hopes on the treatment (as we all do). Praying it’s not bad news for you.
sending you lots of love. Thinking of you so much xxx

@Lara8 good news you don’t have to do any more jabs. Fingers crossed for end of month x

@MeganBistram can I drive after an infusion? Looking online (dr google lol) says potentially harmful side effects dizziness and tiredness. I have asked my other half to drive me but he’s meant to be in the office and his boss is off. I feel bad dragging him in there for a plus hour appointment! God I’m going to be so bored. Will take a book with me.

is it me or are the reception staff proper grumpy and give off bad vibes or am I just being my usual over sensitive self??

Thank you @KatyTTC @JandL2020 and @Lara8 for your messages again and love - it’s appreciated in this lonely space. I didn’t have anything all day until just now I wiped a little brown discharge again. It is so triggering. I’ve been out touristing with my mum and her sisters, walking around wondering should I even be moving about, should I be lying still (for 9 months) - like what the hell do I need to do to make this go right for once? I hate that every aspect of pregnancy and early pregnancy is tainted for us (Everytime you go to the toilet, every time you feel a slight twinge, every time you don’t feel a twinge or a symptom, should I eat this, is this bag to heavy to lift, should I be walking/flying the list goes on etc etc)- people have no idea how messed up our heads are with anxiety and fear. In the past this spotting/ bleeding/red/brown has happened me for weeks and weeks off and on and then each time I ended up miscarrying, it’s so hard for me to see an alternative right now 🤷🏼‍♀️

@JandL2020 I don’t drive but I did feel dizzy after my first one, I was fine after a cup of tea in Nero and went back to work then. I think all staff are grumpy at the moment, I’m wondering are the nurses pressured to ‘upsell’! Did you end up getting the repeat HCG and prog after you complained? Zero empathy or understanding at all.

@MeganBistram i agree with @Lara8 could you change the NHS one? It’s so pants though - we have enough to worry about 😡

@whatsgoingon22 I completely and whole heartily agree. It’s literally a daily struggle to try and remain positive when all past experiences suggest things will not end well, I go some days where I am like yes this is different we will be fine and then bam I get a twinge or a cramp or my symptoms change and I’m a mess again. With the spotting we just have to keep everything crossed that the protocol is working and this doesn’t mean the end of a pregnancy like you have experienced before.
how are you feeling about the scan tomorrow?

@Lara8 i tried movin the NhS one first but can’t. I pushed back again on CRP and they agree the safest is to have the intralipids elsewhere.. I felt like I had to point out that we have my 11week scan on Monday and have no idea if everything is ok so making me stressed about something that might not even happen was not putting them in the best light :)

@JandL2020 omg this is so soon now. Wishing you all the luck for august, the intralipids had no side effects for me.. just a slightly sharp pain that runs up your arm when you get a bit of time in and a weird taste ( all normal ) I think you’re find to go alone

@Hope646 any ovulation update? Xx

@whatsgoingon22 i know it’s so stressful and you know you’re own body, it’s normal to feel this way. Just hope the scan is good news
@MeganBistram im glad they have finally seen sense and doing what’s right by you and the baby
Thanks for advice ladies think I’ll drive myself then and do some shopping in M&S whilst I’m there (like last time 🤣) and treat myself to some de daf coffee in neros 🙂
im so tired already and I’ve not even started the infusions yet 😩
xx

heyy lovelies, sorry for the late response. for the last few days, i was trying to figure out.
So i seem to be ovulating now (cd19). really late ovulation. I was almost giving up. but been testing every morning and evening. finally got the solid face this morning and the lines are much darker on the non-digital strips also (uploading it on the app- it shows high). Thank God. I really thought something was wrong. lets see how this cycle goes. the whole thing is such a rollercoaster- being happy when ovulation happens, then worrying whether its sucessful- then being disappointed seeing bfn. then trying again. I wonder when it will ever stop. But staying positive. At this stage i dont even want to think about once preg happens- the anxiety and fear.

@MeganBistram best wishes for your scan on Monday. I am sure everything will be good (you are my hope- it has to go well hahah). Fingers crossed for you. Please let us know how it goes.

@JandL2020 you should be fine with driving there. Usually it is 2 hours drive for me, I always take my time before driving back- with food, a bit of shopping at TK maxx. It is not too bad. Wish you all the good luck for your new treatment.

@whatsgoingon22 I am so sorry with everything you are going through. In my last preg, i was dreading to go toilet so i dont see blood again. This anxiety and fear is the worst thing to go through during pregnancy after our losses. You are in my thoughts. I know its hard to think otherwise especially after past experiences but they do say spotting is common during early preg and one of the side effects of cyclogest is spotting too. Wish you all the luck for your appointment tomorrow.

@Hope646 thats great news. Fingers crossed for you
my journey time is around 1 hour 20 but on my way back last time it took over 2 hours as hit traffic (plus I got lost in Epsom lol 😂- don’t always follow the sat nav) xx

Hi guys, thanks again for your messages over the last few days. They were much appreciated especially when you can’t talk to anyone else at the moment when it’s so early. Had my scan this afternoon and thank God everything was okay 🙏🏻❤️ everything measuring good for 6 weeks 4 days 🙏🏻❤️she saw some fluid sacs around the side and thinks it may be blood so I’ve been told to take a new drug to relax the womb/prevent womb contracting so it doesn’t try and reject the blood sacs. I’ve also been told to come off the aspirin now. Interestingly they told me not to worry about not having many pregnancy symptoms - that the concoction of drugs can mask them and that they also give prednisone to women with hyperemesis and bad morning sickness to stop them from feeling ill. Must say everyone at CRP was a lot friendlier/gentler/more empathetic I found today- Dr Edge actually dealt with the scan really sensitively which was good.

@Hope646 im so glad you got good news with your ovulation, I hope it goes well for you this cycle ❤️ sending lots of positive vibes your way!

@MeganBistram hope you’re doing well and feeling okay❤️we will all continue to navigate this difficult journey together, each stage is so hard and you can never relax ❤️good luck with your next scan also and glad you managed to sort things out xx

@JandL2020 yeh i wouldn’t worry about the intralipids too much in terms of side effects, the only massive effect I noticed was to my bank balance🫠!! You will be fine I’m sure 😊lots of positive vibes sent your way too!

@whatsgoingon22 this is such a great news to wake up to. I am sooo happpy for you. Thank God it’s a positive news. You were in my thoughts whole day yesterday. You have gone through a lot and I am sure the past experiences until now has taken away so much mentally and emotionally. Wish you all the luck for this pregnancy.

That’s right. Until now I found all the nurses and receptionist at CRP to be very helpful, responsive and friendly. I wouldn’t call Dr S himself friendly though 😂

hahah so true..yes the only side effect is on bank balance 😂😭. @JandL2020 I didn’t feel anything either.

Thank you again @Hope646 😘it really is a rollarcoaster ride, I was sure my luck was out on Tuesday this week 🙈! The spotting seems to have subsided now which is good so hopefully those blood sacs/clots don’t cause any more problems especially now I’m on this new medication❤️Dr edge just said go about your life as normal and let the medication do the work 🤷🏼‍♀️will be back to them again in two weeks and will try see if my Nhs Epu can see me in between. FYI I can’t remember who mentioned about gaining weight during all this process and that is me to a tee- think the steroids have kicked in in that sense 🫠xx

@whatsgoingon22 fantastic news lovely you must feel so relieved. What medication did they put you on? Symptoms may kick in a bit later. And also for gaining weight…a great reason to 😀 I’m already fat so expecting going to look 🐷 but I’ve noticed this week with good diet my bloating isn’t as bad and I feel better.
I was thinking of having my 1st viability scan at crp as I’ve only ever been told bad news at ivf clinic and in the same room 😞 so struggle a bit with ptsd.
@Hope646
at the clinic I’ve found all staff fine just on the phone found them at bit off.
they sent me an email yesterday with my protocol apologising it was late and have not including one of my prenatal vitamins so now I’m paranoid as to whether to take it or not.

are you ladies on the co enzyme10/b1?

hope everyone enjoys their weekends xx

@whatsgoingon22 I'm so incredibly relieved for you. So happy to read this. My stomach sunk for you as I know what triggering it can be seeing blood. Sounds so positive! You’re doing amazing. I had hyperemesis and was in hospital for weeks on a drip, they tried every anti sickness medication on me and nothing worked and they then gave me prednisone steroids and within hours I was able to eat. So it really does stop the symptoms (on some women). Try not to worry about this aspect of it all. Sending you lots of strength xx

@whatsgoingon22 im so pleased for you. I kept checking yesterday to see if you had messaged. This sounds amazing progress especially if your losses are normally 6 weeks.

CRP are fabulous as long as you don’t question any of their plan or try and do anything elsewhere ;)

interestingly my scan on Monday is with Dr S again as it’s at Harley street. I am interested to see what he has to say. I tell you what though the anxiety is back. I have had 2 night of dreaming that they tell me at the scan Therse no heartbeat so that’s been fun :(

also my god the weight gane / moon face is strong and real.. how no-one has guessed I’m pregnant is madness.. I hope when the drugs end I can loose a bit lol xx

@MeganBistram i didn’t realise dr s did scans. Fingers crossed for you. I know it’s a scary time. I’m not looking forward to the moon face, I am already quite round 🤣 I think it will be obvious before 12 weeks (if I get that far)
just going out to a Gastro pub and picking the healthy options and ginless tonics yay 😀xx

@whatsgoingon22 what incredible news!!! I’m so relieved for you. I felt sooo much for you last week. Keeping everything crossed for your next scan! Totally over the moon for you!

@JandL2020 how are you getting on? I felt totally normal after my intralipids. I spent a hour looking at rubbish on my phone, (might take a book when I go next week) drank lots of water and then had a little potter round m&s and drove home! All fine. Had slight arm ache for about half an hour afterwards but that was all. Hope you’re having a lovely evening out. I take 600mg a day of co enzyme q10. I don’t take B1… is that vitamin b1? Xx

@Hope646 this is such great news about your ovulation. I got a flashing smiley today on day 10 so looking more normal this month if a little early. I think it can vary month to month. Last month, like you, it was later.
I took letrozole this month for super ovulation so I’m wondering if it will make me ovulate slightly earlier or produce more LH for the sticks to detect? I’m normally flashing smile on day 12/13 and solid smile on day 14/15. Ill ask next week when I go for my scan. I’ve also got mild twinges in my ovaries so I’m wondering if this is ovulation or the letrozole.

@MeganBistram I been thinking of you so much. Hoping you’re feeling ok. You must be counting the seconds until Mondays scan. Have you got nice birthday plans?

Sending everyone on here lots of love and luck as always xx