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First Pregnancy Missed Miscarriage

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sadtoday21 · 10/02/2019 16:14

Hello everyone - I've never posted on these forums before, but I had a missed miscarriage at 9 weeks and I found out at the 12 week dating scan two days ago. It was my first ever pregnancy. Yesterday, I had D&C and now recovering. Really healthy otherwise and no signs at all that anything was wrong during the pregnancy, although I never had any morning sickness.

I am really in shock and this happened on the 1 year anniversary of my mom's death (breast cancer), so the whole thing just feels like too much to handle. DH (dear husband) is very supportive, but I don't have any women friends to talk to, besides one who is more than 20 weeks pregnant and well...I just can't deal with that. Any advice on how to recover emotionally and also when to start trying again? GP said to wait 3 weeks, but I don't think I can wait that long. Please help and thank you.

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Catconfusion · 06/03/2019 17:22

Omg @SARmum14 I just read your message. I'm so sorry. Hopefully the medication will help it to pass. Did they give you any likelihood of it passing naturally? It's so unfair you still have this hanging over you. I really hope by Monday its over. Rest up and keep us posted. You have support here when you need it! X

SARmum14 · 06/03/2019 17:23

@catconfusion the Sonographer said she saw I was about to ovulate from my right ovary but the nurse said that whilst I still would I can’t get pregnant with the retained tissue because of the HCG levels in my system. Is that right do you think? I’ve heard of women getting pregnant and then the old pregnancy tissue is just reabsorbed. I don’t want to waste any further time. If I’m ovulating should I be TTC or do I need to take the misoprostol now so that I can get rid of it and start TTC as soon as I recover?

sadtoday21 · 06/03/2019 17:32

@SARmum14 I am so sorry to hear that. I had the medicine before my D&C as well and it is a bit rough...let us know if you need any support at all! I think you are right, you could still get pregnant now if you are ovulating. I've read enough to think that is the case. You have to do what you think is best for you, there really is no right answer here. But definitely focus on getting better and getting healthy yourself first. IMHO, take the drugs and get that BFN so you can begin to heal and move forward. Thinking of you and hoping you are doing ok xxx.

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sadtoday21 · 06/03/2019 17:36

@Catconfusion it must be a relief to know your test results are good, but also kind of frustrating since there are still so many questions about why this happened. I personally find it hard to accept that there is no reason at all. I forgot you had a private scan, I guess that wasn't a very good experience for you either. I think I am just a bit traumatized by going back to the same exact place - the scan really was the worst part of this whole experience and I am not sure I can survive sitting in that waiting room with all those happy pregnant women with scan photos again. It's too much. Will just have to take one day at a time I guess and hope for the best.

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Catconfusion · 06/03/2019 17:40

@SARmum14 it's so difficult to say. I guess they saw significant enough tissue to feel you couldn't get pregnant but like you say, it isn't unheard of. Good that your ovaries are getting back to normal too so that must be down to the decrease in hormones surely! I think @sadtoday21 is right that you need to look after yourself and the medication could mean the end of feeling so rough. It sounds like your body is doing a good job of trying to recover and I'm sure once this tissue is passed you'll feel much better. I was told 5% of ERPCs leave remaining tissue but you're strong and you're doing so well dealing with this regardless of how you're feel inside.

Take care and we're all thinking of you. Just post any time of day and night. I'm sometimes up at 4am when my husband goes to work so will reply as soon as I can. Xx

Catconfusion · 06/03/2019 18:22

@sadtoday21 it really is frustrating. Chromosomal is also nothing we can particularly treat. It's the luck of the draw. I had egg reserve tests in my early 30s and was told I have good levels of healthy eggs but anyone can get an egg or sperm or combination of both that creates an abnormality. It makes you feel so powerless. At least there's medication for thyroid problems not that I wish I had a thyroid problem but just feel like there's not much we can do.

It sounds like your experience of EPU wasn't good. The smiley happy people for us were at the private clinic. Most people at our EPU seemed to be in a similar boat as many sad faces. Did they offer you counselling at your EPU? I found it really helped soften the blow a bit. If we hadn't had that I'd feel more traumatised about the experience. It was obviously horrible and I'm dreading going for a scan again but I feel I can go back there. X

Amanda81 · 06/03/2019 20:23

Oh no @SARmum14 I'm so sorry. Did you see how much was retained? When I first started on MN I was on a thread where a lady had the same situation. She was given the tablet and passed it within 48 hours. She also had some small clots that passed with her period. Like @Catconfusion said, we are all here for you ❣

3204ECL · 06/03/2019 20:53

Hi All, I just wanted to thank you for this thread... I've been quietly following it for a couple of weeks now as I'm in the same situation, MMC 1st pregnancy but am a couple of weeks behind most of you.

We found out at an early private scan at 9 weeks that our baby had stopped growing between 6 and 7 weeks. We then had to go for an NHS scan and then another a week later to confirm which I must admit has dragged the whole process out longer than necessary but has given us time to come to terms with what's happened before having to go through the actual miscarriage.

I was due to have medical management last Monday which we delayed as we already had a holiday booked which we felt for our mental health was the right thing to still go on! Typically and quite thankfully I starred to miscarriage naturally on Sunday evening. The heavy beeping lasted a couple of days but has now eased.

Like many of you I'm just ready to move on and try again now and this thread has given me not only hope but also a better understanding of what to expect which has really to keep me strong.

Thanks again and sending you all best wishes. X

bananamonkey · 06/03/2019 21:09

I’m so sorry @SARmum14, at least you now have a reason for feeling so crappy. If it was me I’d take the meds and get well again first but understand it’s difficult, take care of yourself x

Sorry for your loss @3204ECL it’s a really shit thing to go through, glad you’ve found a little comfort x

Catconfusion · 07/03/2019 06:08

@3204ECL I'm so sorry for your loss. It's so physically and emotionally exhausting going through a MMC not to mention time consuming and frustrating. I'm really pleased this thread has been helpful for you. I very much value the support of the ladies on here. TTC is stressful and especially confusing after a MMC when your body has deceived you. It's so reassuring to chat to people who've had similar experiences. Just join in when you're ready and let us know how you're getting on. X

sadtoday21 · 07/03/2019 10:41

@3204ECL welcome and I am so sorry for your loss and everything you have been through. Miscarriage is the most isolating experience in the world. Even if you have a supportive DH, friends, and family around you, there is absolutely no one who can really understand the deep emotional and physical pain if they haven't experienced it directly. It changes you. I was in a really bad place when I started this thread and felt I had no one to talk to about what I had just gone through. In the past few weeks, I've found so many really lovely people like yourself and all the ladies on this thread that have offered support, guidance, and a safe place to talk about this terrible thing that is constantly on my mind. I really don't know what I would have done without it either. Thank you for sharing your story with us and please let us know how you are doing. It really helps to know you aren't alone and that we are all on this path together xxx.

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sadtoday21 · 07/03/2019 10:44

@SARmum14 how are you feeling today? Any news? Thinking of you and hoping you are well x.

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sadtoday21 · 07/03/2019 13:56

Quick question for you all - how many days post surgery did you ovulate for the first time? I read 2-4 weeks is normal and tomorrow will be 4 weeks for me with no sign of it yet :(. I know that it might take some time since I was 12 weeks at time of D&C, but wondering if I should start OPK again or just give it up until AF comes. Sorry if I have asked this question before in different ways, just becoming fixated on it and can't quite recall how many weeks it took for you @Catconfusion and @Amanda81. Thanks very much!

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LMLP91 · 07/03/2019 13:57

Hello all,
I’m new to posting on here, but sadly not new to this thread as I have been reading all your posts for weeks on end trying to muster up the courage to actually type something myself. It is with a heavy and broken heart that I find myself in the same boat as all you OP’s.

I apologise in advance but this is going to be a long post...

I had a MMC with my first pregnancy, discovered on 30th Nov last year - exactly a week after my booking appt with the Midwife - even harder to accept as one week it’s very real and I’m being asked questions and having bloods taken and given loads of information...only for it all to come crashing down around me a week later just a few rooms down from where I was previously so happy and excited.

I had been experiencing brownish discharge for a few days which led up to that day and the morning before I had passed what looked like an old dark-blood-coloured clot and then nothing else. (I have to add, I had no pain or indication that anything was wrong - symptoms still going strong). I had spoken with a Midwife at work; (I work in a Children’s Centre, so am surrounded by midwives and health visitors and pregnant women and babies pretty much all the time!) who didn’t seem alarmed even when I showed her a photo of what I had passed, she didn’t appear to be concerned. However, later that evening I got home from work and discovered some fresh red blood when wiping. I found myself desperately scrabbling through my notes to find the triage number only to be told that I was too early to be seen there. The lovely midwife on the phone said she didn’t feel overly concerned with what I was describing to her and she advised me to get a GP appointment for the next day and ask for an early scan at the EPU at the hospital. I had no further episodes of bleeding or passing anything overnight so naturally I woke up feeling confident about what the day would bring.

Oh boy was I wrong.

I won’t ever forget the look on the sonographer’s face when she turned to me, my partner and my Mum and very calmly and kindly explained that the TV Scan unfortunately showed that there was only an empty sac measuring at 6 weeks + 6 days when it should in actual fact have been at 8+6. It hit me like a train and in that moment I just became numb and completely zoned out of the conversation, the room, and what felt like the planet! We were told to wait a week in case anything was to appear/grow but that it was looking unlikely at that point.

Anyway, as you can imagine, that week was the worst of our whole lives. We couldn’t face telling anyone that this special little secret we had been keeping had suddenly disappeared and left my partner and I completely and utterly shattered. We had decided to surprise everyone over the Christmas period as I would have been 12 weeks on Christmas Eve - even booking a private scan for just before to make sure we had photos to share. Ironically, I booked the private scan the same day I received the letter for our dating scan at the hospital as it wasn’t until the 27th Dec and we so wanted to tell our families on Christmas Day/Boxing Day!
I spent that week at home in bed, in darkness, just sobbing and broken and not wanting to talk to anyone but my partner who had gone to work and struggled with trying to be “normal” around his colleagues who had no idea what he was going through. Looking back now, that week is a blur and one which has changed us both forever.

We returned a week later to the EPU, to the same room, the same sonographer and the same gut-wrenching darkness of the empty sac which had only grown around 2mm during that hellish week. I was given my options and decided that surgical management would be the easiest for us to cope with as Christmas was drawing ever closer and I felt like we had suffered enough. I was booked in for the 11th of Dec and had an agonising weekend of worrying about the procedure and “what ifs” whilst still trying to come to terms with this whirlwind which had ripped through our lives.

Unfortunately there was a “hiccup” shall we say when I arrived at the hospital as I was told to check-in at the wrong place and then was very clumsily sent to the delivery suite where I was met with pregnant women and babies crying and new life, which was horrendous for me as I was there for the complete opposite reason! Anyway, this was swiftly dealt with and several apologies and shocked faces later...all in all, my experience of the surgery was good. I was first on the list for surgeries that day due to my latex allergy, so went down around 8:30am and was back in recovery about 9:15am. The nurses on the ward were fantastic and very sympathetic and kind and we had our own room and the privacy we needed to grieve for our loss. I was able to leave the hospital a few hours later and came back home to come to terms with what we had been through.

Christmas and New Year came and went and we tried our hardest to make the best of it, but I really struggled with overthinking about what could have been and the hopes and plans we had made for our future as a family. I hadn’t been to work since the day we found out and my return date was creeping closer and my anxiety levels were rising. Luckily I had the support of a fantastic GP who had been with us on this most horrible of journeys and she agreed that it was too soon for me to go back to the environment I worked in and be surrounded by the thing I longed for the most whilst trying not to burst into tears when anyone smiled at me or asked how I was. All in all, I was signed off work for 7 weeks and had the full support of my managers who were fantastic and eased me back in when I was good and ready.

I’m writing this, currently with AF in full force on my third cycle since the surgery, feeling stronger but still broken and desperate to feel complete again. My partner has been truly wonderful with supporting me and I’m lucky to have great friends and family who have helped us out of a very dark place. Also, a great deal of my healing has been aided by these MN threads and all you OP’s - although I have only just managed to bring myself to post, your words and kindness towards each other has helped me discover and feel my ‘new normal’ and given me support that I’m not alone.

I am trying not to get my hopes up for my little rainbow, but it is hard every month not to get excited and then disappointed when AF arrives. However, I have to remind myself that my body is obviously still healing and recovering and I hope that once it’s ready, my miracle will happen.

If you have made it to the end of this post, I thank you for taking the time to read. I just want to finish by saying please be kind to yourselves and take all the time you need to cry and feel angry and heartbroken and most importantly, heal. We will all get there...one day at a time.

Love and positive vibes to you all,
Laura

Xx

Astella22 · 07/03/2019 14:08

Unfortunately I’ve been through this a few times and each time it absolutely floored me. I had so many emotions in line with what everyone is saying here but also I remember a phase of hating my DH because he didn’t seam to be as devastated as me so in my mind that equalled him not caring. We have since talked allot about what happened and it was clear that he cared ALLOT but was just trying to be strong for me. Just keep that in mind, grief hits people differently.
I’m so sorry this happened to you, it’s utterly shit. There were days that I felt like the pain of the loss would never lessen but it has, it’s no longer so raw if that makes sense. TBH I even feel guilty/ashamed admitting that.
Cry when u want and be angry when u want.
Take care of yourself and your DH!

Amanda81 · 07/03/2019 14:11

Hello 👋 @LMLP91 and @3204ECL - thank you for sharing your stories. This is a lovely thread to be on with lovely ladies all sharing their experience. I have been on MN for three months now, as I too was looking for support and like minded people, and only up until a few weeks a go I was diverted to this thread. It truly is very supportive x

@sadtoday21 - I ovulated three weeks after the erpc and got AF five weeks after the erpc. How are yours temps doing? Still on the 36.6+ side? If so, you have likely ovulated by now. I was 12+5 when I had surgery so similar to you. Give it another week I would say. Do you know how long your luteal phase is normally?

Catconfusion · 07/03/2019 14:18

@sadtoday21 it took four weeks to ovulate again though I normally ovulate 3 to 4 weeks into my cycle and have period at 5 to 6 weeks. It's almost as if the day of surgery was day 1 for me. Xx

@LMLP91 thank you so much for sharing your story. It must have been so tough with the nature of your job being child related. It really is a shock and completely gruelling to go through a MMC. A week after midwife appointment and just before Christmas is horrible too. It sounds like your body has done some good healing and the emotional side will come with time. Please feel free to let us know how you're getting on. We'll help best we can! Xx

Catconfusion · 07/03/2019 14:21

@Astella22 I'm so sorry for your losses. Did you get any answers from the doctors about what happened? Xx

LMLP91 · 07/03/2019 14:25

Thank you @Catconfusion - I appreciate you taking the time to respond. Work has been a tough hurdle for me to overcome and some days are harder than others (today being one of them) but every day I feel a little stronger. I feel like AF has come back with a vengeance since the surgery as have my hormones, but hoping everything is settling down and one day soon i’ll have some good news to share.

In the meantime, I’m here for you all and truly believe that sharing and talking about our experiences is such a positive step in the healing process. Xx

Catconfusion · 07/03/2019 14:35

So everyone, I'm 4 dpo according to my temps although I felt like it happened a couple of days earlier. I'm getting a dull ache low down on the left side and I've had an upset stomach since Monday. Sometimes the pain is sharp and goes through to my back. DH has reminded me I felt the same when I was newly pregnant last time. I remember panicking it was ectopic. It would have been at least 10dpo though just after I got the positive test. I wasn't particularly trying to get pregnant so wasn't symptom spotting before that. I could have had symptoms that went unnoticed. Just wondering what you all think. I'm obviously wondering if it's a new pregnancy or if its just the lining building up again and that's particularly painful due to ERPC. @Amanda81 any thoughts? Hope you're all doing ok today. X

sadtoday21 · 07/03/2019 17:19

@LMLP91 Hi Laura, welcome to the group and I am so sorry for your loss. It sounds like you had a really rough time with the mix-up at the hospital and being sent to the maternity ward. I also can't even imagine having to go back to work if it involved small children. Now that you are three cycles post surgery are you starting to feel better? How long did it take for your cycles to get back on track? You must be feeling so disappointed right now with AF, but hang in there and don't give up hope. I am sure you will get your rainbow baby soon. Sending you hugs and keep us posted on your progress xxx.

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sadtoday21 · 07/03/2019 17:27

@Amanda81 thanks for your reply! You are so lucky to have O'd at 3 weeks - I am jealous! I think I was actually exactly at 13 weeks on day of surgery, but still it does seem like a few days here and there shouldn't make a difference in terms of high hcg levels. My temp is climbing up to 36.7 today, not really sure what's going on but it does seem too high to be pre-O. I've noticed CM for the first time ever today though, just a little, but consistently there. If it increase I might break out the OPK tests again, just to be sure.

How many days until you can take an HPT? Are you having any symptoms? Thinking of you and of @Catconfusion and hoping you both have BFPs this month! That would be so great and give us all hope for the future.

@Catconfusion I don't know about your symptoms, since I didn't have those for my pregnancy (I was just really really tired, sudden unexplained weight loss, tiny bit hormonal acne, and then slightly sore, tingly breasts). Any of my symptoms could have been PMS for other ladies, except they weren't normal for me. I also felt implantation-I think-when it occurred, just a twinge on my side. Honestly I think extreme fatigue is a pretty reliable indicator for most women. Are your temps still elevated?

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LMLP91 · 07/03/2019 17:31

@sadtoday21 hello and thank you for welcoming me ☺️ I remember reading your very first post - it was the day after my birthday and the catalyst for me FINALLY being brave enough to post for myself!
So...my cycles always used to be pretty textbook, 28 days with 7 days bleeding before all of this. Post surgery, I bled from 11th Dec until 23rd Dec and then AF arrived on 5th Jan, but only lasted 4 days, however it was SO heavy and painful! Since Jan I had a more ‘normal’ 7 day period in Feb and now on the next one. They are heavy and painful and I suppose just a signal that my body is trying to sort itself out after the turmoil it has been through. Trying to stay positive and hope for the future 🤞🏼
Where are you in your journey now? Physically and emotionally speaking? Xxx

Catconfusion · 07/03/2019 18:13

@sadtoday21 thanks for replying. Yes temps up and that twinge/pain is quite sharp. It's left this time, last time was right. I've also been asleep all afternoon so pretty tired. My tummy is explosive like it was last time. It just seems so early to feel like this at 4dpo although I have a feeling it's more like 6dpo. The nurse at EPU said a strong ovulation can disturb the ovary for a while so the sharp pains I had when I got the positive test last time could have actually been my ovary and nothing to do with the pregnancy so it could be that. I guess I just need to keep busy and try not to think about it. It could just be PM symptoms are much worse because of the mmc and surgery. I have to say it's floored me this afternoon and I've not been up to much. It brought back memories of last time so I'm feeling a bit emotional. Time will only tell I guess! X

Amanda81 · 07/03/2019 19:55

I can see why you would be symptom spotting @Catconfusion it does appear to be a strong symptom. When I first ovulated after erpc I felt it as a twinge and I could feel everything thereafter for a couple of days, almost as if the surgery had taken away all my lining and my uterus was super sensitive. Prior to erpc I never felt ovulation pain. But tbh the last two cycles I have not felt it, which I have taken as the uterus getting stronger. I'm not saying that this could be happening to you, and as you fell pregnant so quickly last time, it certainly is a possibility. It would be amazing if it was. Keep us all updated x

@sadtoday21 strange that you have fertile Cm! Defo get on those OPK's to make sure you don't miss any activity 😉 x

Hope you are doing okay @SARmum14 x

After my post early this afternoon I was supposed to go to my desk and get some work done, but instead I put my Jim-jams on and curled up on the sofa with two blankets and had a nap 😴 I was super cold and knackered. I had been on a building site all morning, so that explains the feeling of being cold and also had a building inspector chewing my ear off all morning which can explain my fatigue and the need for a nap. However, my alter ego who comes to life in the tww is suggesting it could be a sign 🤪🤪🤪

I check my Cm regularly (before and after O). Today when I checked it had an ever so slight brown colour to it (very slight). Sorry tmi! It also had a metallic blood smell...so think AF is on her way. My Cm has been white and creamy since O. Only time will tell...this tww malarkey is painful 😖 I've decided not to test until next Tuesday, which would be CD31. If AF comes, I expect to see her on Sunday. My usual cycle is 28 days long. But my luteal phase has extended this cycle which is odd (it's usually 11 days)...based on my LP I would have had my period today. I've ordered some frers!!! Hugs 🤗 to all x