Recurrent Miscarriage Support Thread 25 - tests, treatment and trying again

[Marchgirl]

Tea, hugs, a wealth of collective knowledge and lots of hand holding as we try again. This thread moves like lightning so hold on to your hats!
Previous thread here

barking glad your dads starting to improve. Definitely needed the gas and air at Cov- I'd have been pissed off without it! And I think the wedding calls for major buckets of wine!

sasha I usually use cbfm and with new batteries it's started to pick up ov again. I tried boots sticks and misread them this month for sure as the monitor picked up ov four days later. I like it but it is expensive- luckily I usually ov quite early so don't waste too many sticks. Although like sebs I've generally got pg in the month I've thought sod it!

bunny I use Ovia- like the little updates but some of them piss me off a bit after a while 'well done- are you tired from all the fertile window intercourse' er no I'm just knackered! FF (though it won't let me pay for the vip part now so can only see the calendar- bit annoying!) and glow which is just a bit random. I should probably choose one and stop wasting my time on my phone!

twilight hope you feel a bit brighter today. Cd1 is a rubbish day if you feel a bit down anyway. Hugs hon x

Still trying to keep up and understand where everyone is upto but wedding dresses I get!

I'd say go with your heart over your head! Youre unlikely to look back in ten years time and say 'I wish I'd not spent that extra few hundred quid'. But you're more likely to look back and regret not getting THE dress.

As for veils... my sisters hen do is in two weeks. I bought I 'cheap' veil on ebay (£1.80!) From.China to cover in willies etc. It turned up and it's bloody amazing!!!! Wish I'd ordered mine for my wedding from China now instead of paying £120!

Ooh lovely dresses! I am another who blew the budget on my dress and have no regrets (even though no bugger bought it when I tried to sell it on). I think the key with wedding budgets is to splash out when it's important to you but don't be talked into paying for things you're not personally arsed about. I had my Scottish castle, posh nosh and wine and first choice dress but sacked off the flowers and cars and made my own cake and invitations.

That said dsis also found her beautiful dress second hand and I got my veil cheap on ebay. Good luck!

barking glad to hear better news about your dad. Hugs

Tanny that dress is stunning!! I have this slightly crazy idea that I would to organise a spontaneous tiny wedding with family whilst I am pregnant so my wedding photos show me with a bump and a maternity dress.

The reality of this idea will involve me failing to be actually pregnant that long, or being pregnant but having leaky nipples and SPD or something and feeling totally I'll on the day and wanting everyone to fuck off and leave me alone.

I still think about the scenario a lot though.

Minnie I'm a 5 ft short arse too!!!

Littlebear I'm with Freckle on this one, you want to dance out of the shop. Both gorgeous though

Barking I'm glad your Dad is improving. Thinking of you

Tanny and Longest hope Bertie and Beth are doing ok

And on the weight thing. It's weird, I normally hate my massive hips and bum and will choose clothes especially to hide them but on my wedding day I kind of wanted something that complemented my body rather than hiding it. Dh seems to like me the way I am after all!

sebs you're engaged aren't you? Go for it!

Glad to hear your dad is a bit better barking and that his chest is now clear.

Sorry you were feeling a bit down twilight. Hope things are looking up now you're cd1. Good luck with getting back on the horse x

I also made my own invites and cake, table plan and decorations. Initially to save money but actually I'm really glad I did it as it made it more memorable (although bit stressful on the day when the polka dots on the cake started to sweat and drip when someone left it in a hot kitchen!). I totally agree that you should spend whatever you need to make it perfect, rather than regretting it later. I love veils. I borrowed mine from a friend

Haha minnie, a fellow 3 app person! Good luck with the testing. I've never had a positive before 11dpo if that helps, but I know everyone is different

Just seen I had an email from Coventry with my results. uNk cells 2.98% so normal. Good I suppose but now I just have to accept that my losses are down to age and just have to keep going and hope to hit on a good egg. 50/50 chance. Now if I can just get pg again!

Another good/bad news thing. I never know whether to congratulate people or say sorry to hear it . So take whichever you think most appropriate minnie . But at least you've ticked it off the list whilst you were waiting anyway and you now have the prog/heparin combo which has worked for lots of folk. And the benefit of the scratch. Hopefully the next one will be a good 'un

Minnie I was 2.7 % so had absolutely no reason at all!

Made me feel a bit too

For wedding dresses, can I recommend ElliotClaire.com.

For my second marriage, I decided I wasn't going to spend a fortune on a dress. I sent them my measurements end of Jan and picked the style of dress I wanted from their website. The dress arrived end of Feb, beautifully packaged and fitted pretty much perfectly. £350. That was 2013, since then, they have gained more popularity and I think you can go to Elliot Claire's central London store to try on and see the dresses. I took the risk of never being able to try it on or see a sample. Gamble paid off I think for me. I made my own head dress/veil, of an off white feather and diamond headband from somewhere like Debenhams, then I attached some birdcage veil material to it, I wanted a slightly 50's look.

At Coventry for my uNK cells biopsy I also had gas and air. The biopsy was painful, brought tears to my eyes and a dull ache low down in my abdomen for around 20 mins afterwards. All in all really not too bad at all.

Brummie So delighted for you. Really hoping that this will be your happy ending.

Sun I'm ssssoooooo glad you had no use for your hospital bag. Hopefully the next one you'll be packing is when you are 37 weeks pregnant!

March I'm sorry you are in headfuck land. I had implantation bleeding with my DS and mine was a mixture of pink, brown and red! Really hoping the line gets stronger.

Little bear Go with the one you love. It's one day and it's worth the extra money! I never thought I'd be the type to fall in love with a wedding dress, but I did. And even now 7 years later I still look at the pics and smile!

Minnie I'm glad you have got an answer now but I'm sorry it's nothing 'fixable'. I really hope your luck changes soon.

Waves to everyone else xxx

PS Meant to say Sebs, so glad you are pregnant and the spotting was from the back door!

Hi Minnie - I'm with March. Difficult to know whether to congratulate or commensurate. Particularly as I haven't decided what I 'want' to come out of my own NK testing. I guess the good thing is you've ruled it out and don't need to worry about it, which hopefully will add to the posifrickintivity efforts next time. What I've told myself is that the prognosis for 'unexplained' versus 'treated high NK' doesn't appear much different (afaik). Next time = new egg + new sperm + freshly scratched new lining.

Onestep - I totally guzzled the gas and air!

Barking glad to hear your dad is improving but am so sorry to hear there will be long term issues as a result of it. Hope he's home with family and friends soon.

My wedding dress was a high street one from M&S at Covent Garden. It cost £200 and was very straightlined, eligant and simple. I felt lovely in it but do kind of wish I'd had something more fancy now. Then again the money saved helped to cover our astronomical infertility medical costs so perhaps it was for the best!

Twilight I'd never experienced gas and air before, I was laughing and crying. Sounded a bit like Darf Vader afterwards!

Oh, how disappointing. I didn't get anything like that. Felt completely fine (just pain free) until Prof B asked me a question and I couldn't formulate a decent answer. Much like when you think you're sober till you try to stand up!

twilight I had that not drunk till you stand up feeling too. Love gas and air!

Thanks march, twilight, wadsy, brummie I'm going to go with it being a positive thing (or try to!) one less thing to worry about. In a way it's made me feel a bit better. Surely I should hit on a good egg at some point (hopefully before I give up!)!

Yay for good scan results, so please for you brummie and sun.

barking I hope you're dad continues to improve.

littlebear my dress cost fifty quid in eBay because it was listed as a bridesmaid dress, less that DH suit! And my brothers mother in law altered it for me for free because Im a short arse. We got married in my mum's village abroad and my mum (who was a florist) made my bouquet and decorations from flowers in the garden and from the road side and woods, so all free! I wrote our invitations on vintage postcards. We saved loads and then had the most amazing honeymoon. I was addicted to the website rockmywedding, lots of inspiration there.

It's my first due date tomorrow don't really know what to do to mark it so I took DH to the little cinema where we had our first date tonight.

Minnie, I had normal uNK cells too, but I didn't think that that made me 'normal'. I just think I have part of a still less understood implantation problem. I'm not putting it down to age, either, although it may be a factor. There's within normal range, then there's normal for you. The heparin and progesterone also have a job to do, and they're still working on the research to determine exactly what. Try not to feel disheartened by your results.

I wasn't offered gas and air, and they did the biopsy twice as my lining was thin. It bloody hurt! I took some paracetamol for the cramping afterwards, which helped.

Very jealous of all the gas and air, I had that for my egg collection for ivf (which most ladies are totally knocked out for, so I lucked out again there) but nowt for the biopsy and that was private!! It was very painful and he had to take enough for two biopsies - one goes to be tested for nk cells and the other to look at hormone levels etc. It felt barbaric for him to be cutting into me with no painrelief!
If I have to take the steroids and go back I'll be making demands!!
For this reason Minnie, I've changed my mind and decided I want a 'normal' result, as the alternative is a month of steroids, another month with no ttc, and then another painful biopsy! The things we do.... And some people just have a drunken stag and pop out a baby 9 months later .

I'm feeling sad because this time last year I was still a teacher and I had just been on a residential with my class and found out I was pregnant after the iui. Then started bleeding whilst on the trip with 40 kids. And my birthday is on Sunday and last year I spent it wondering if I was still pg and waiting for my scan.

Sebs I should/would have been 7 months pg on my wedding day (that was the first mc two years ago). We found out the clomid had worked and I was pg the day after DH proposed. I was on top of the world. I'd stupidly already looked at maternity wedding dresses when I mc'd, so I'd seen myself with 7 month bump on my wedding day and it was bloody difficult to accept it wasn't going to be like that . Hence me deciding to make my own dress and opting for a 60's style funky, stripy number. It had to be as far removed from the lovely empire line floaty thing I'd pictured myself in as you could get....