Recurrent Miscarriage Support Thread 24 - tests, treatment, trying again.

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Bootles - I completely empathize with the being medical & DH not... We're in the same situation so all decision making left to me. & I know it is my body (!) etc. but makes it feel like I'm doing it all alone.

& Snoopy - I still don't know that mine gets how much it hurts emotionally/physically. He was there for the ERPCs as they were under local but not here when I found out or for the days immediately after both of the MMCs. We both always wanted a big family & he seems to be up for just keeping on going but I think I would reach a stage when I can't anymore - especially as we do luckily have a DD I should focus on.

Off to see the Counsellor for first time tomorrow! Then another close friend 3rd trimester of her easy first pregnancy...

Brummie - I've had more period pain type twinges than I get with my periods in all of my early pregnancies from BFP to about 6 weeks! 1 went to term, 2 MMCs after reaching 8/40 growth & 1 gestational sac at 6/40 size.

(Err, that is meant to be positive! )

Brummie I've read into every bloody twinge or niggle this pregnancy... I'm currently 8+2 and have had loads of cramping, sore boobs, (that started pretty much at 4 wks) nausea that's like travel sickness, just waves and waves of it, yawning like I'm swallowing the world (DH's analogy!) and then can't stomach the thought of eating but being hungry... All the time being very suspicious of everything! Seriously thou, big congrats on the bfp!
MrsD are you 8 wks too? I had my booking in apt yet and had my bounty pack thrust into my hand (seriously - it's my 3rd in 10 months, I'm not sure why the mw bothered and I've junked it straight away!) She also went to town on the blood samples so I have a beautiful bruise that I now have to tell everyone I gave blood to stop them asking questions!
Feel like I'm entering the 'danger zone' now, as I MC at 9.5 and 12 wks, so trying to be optimistic but just flipping scared xx

Haha preseed is referred to as 'the stuff' in our house. Just reminded me must get some more.

morganlefey mine was under GA too, but my local hospital have a policy that it doesn't matter what you're day surgery is for, your relatives aren't coming in! The whole thing was an absolute shambles and I put in a complaint but everytime they email me about it I'm in the middle of another bloody mc and can't face emailing back.

DH is the same, head down, keep going and we will get there. I'm happy to go with it for now, just wish I didn't feel like such a failure every time it end badly.

notspartacus and sasha it must feel good to have a clean slate, so to speak. These are going to be good cycles.

Hi March yes I took cough mixture this time and on my 3 other pregnancies. You have to use the chesty cough one though and start taking 3 x a day (2 x 5ml) from approx 5 days before ovulation.

You also have to drink lots of water - it can't create cm but it can thin out what you already have. I also took evening primrose oil from cd 1 to ovulation - 2,000mg a day.

Tmi alert here. I really struggle with terrible dryness. So much so that if I don't use lube I start to worry that it will hurt and of course it's self perpetuating.

Don't get me wrong I want sex, I really want it. But my bits don't seem to function. So I have to almost anticipate DTD and use a little bit of preseed every night.

Once I start, my body remembers and almost decides to wake up.

So my dryness is a real issue for me and I literally will use anything to help

Am really worried about Littlebear

Thanks for the reassurance re twinges, I know it should be ok but I don't believe anything anymore

Erica I'm just over 10 weeks. We share a late first trimester danger zone though. We just have to take one day at a time but i am equally completely shitting myself. Crazy things I have done in the last few days include sprucing up my neglected bikini line in case I mc and change the bedding on our spare bed in case Ds needs looking after overnight if I mc definitely losing the plot.

Hope you're ok littlebear? x

And hope you've had a good night out girlie

sasha I only seem to get it before a bfp and after I miscarry. I hope it is just hormones and not NK cells playing up. It went away this time as soon as I started pred but I didn't start until nearly five weeks and it was obviously too late to make a difference and now it's back.

Hope you're ok littlebear xx

Wow, spent 24 hours catching up on the thread. So i'm sorry if i don't name check everyone but so much information has gone down since friday!!!
Pop** i'm sorry there were no answers from coventry. God, i wish i had some wisdom for you - but i don't. It's fucking shite. That's my pearl for you. Have a hug, and one of these and one of these . It's just fucking awful and shite and i am so sorry this is happening in your life, because you're ace. X

Minnie - i am terrible with ds, he is my reason for living and i run through tragedy after tragedy in my brain. I visualise the worst constantly, from small to big scale drama - i should write for the soaps! And i think my need for him has actually made him quite clingy of me in the past 6 months, which really annoys me because my parents were always super protective of me (mum had rmc for different reasons between me and my brother) and i always swore i wouldn't be like this...

Cloud** blimey, you are really being put over the coals with this pregnancy. Hope this scan is positive - because you know, you had this before and the scan was fine. Am crossing everything for you xxx

Re: midwife 1st appointment/bounty pack - never again. Innocent, blind, hope. Never again. I actually think those things are cursed for me, fecking well trigger a mc - like flicking an 'eject embrio' button. Hey, maybe they have one of those under the desk and they keep pressing it as i walk out, Blowfelt style.

Cheesymash - welcome back! Hope holiday was wonderful. Sorry last month was a bfn, but fingers crossed for this month eh?! Xx

Tanny** sorry to hear marrige is not currently a bed of roses. I think it is very honest and genuine of you to hold up your hands and say "hey, you know, here are the cracks. And here and here". But broken things can heal and grow. Not dead wood, but living organic things. Hell, sometimes i believe i hate dh (i don't, it lasts a moment). But by God, even the strongest marriges can be infuriating and boring!

Hoping your ok litttlebear x

Bootles** i am loving the phrase 'as much use as a bounty pack' and feel we should fully adopt the phrase in general usage from now on! Have you been offered hcg as progesterone hasn't proved fruitfull within 3 months? I ask because Prof Walker at Leeds rmc unit (Jimmys) who pop, minnie and i are all under has a prefrence for hcg injections over progesterone. On bfp his patients call the unit and go to the clinic for once a week hcg injections up to 12 weeks. A teacher in my department is currently 15 weeks and has just finished the injections. I have no knowledge if birth defects. He has prescribed me prog from 7 days post ov, but i have not talked with him yet about heparin. I have no idea if hcg and prog would be taken at the same time, so worry about leeds protocal and cov beibg at odds. But given how poor the organisation at leeds seems to be i think i'll be getting advice from cov before leeds anyway!

Snoopy** Cradle Catholic high five! (odd response, i know...!)

Thanks brummie, i think I'll give it a try. And definitely good advice about the water intake. I don't drink nearly enough.

Hope you're doing ok little

Good news on the job girlie, must be hard to think of what to do until Friday. Hope you had a good night out.

I really like the holding hands thing snoopy, might try that myself.

Glad afs have arrived girls. We should all be around a similar time as I'm a slightly longer cycle and currently cd9.

hi guys im so sorry my 3g ran out yesterday and we have no broadband in new house yet so i couldnt get on the net until pinching DPs phone now. sorry if i worried anyone. we had good news and scan went well. private appointment again and couldnt speak to gynae to review meds as nurse thought shed casually guve advice on meds lol but im too anxious to do anything and what yo hear it from gynae lol as its a shit load to fade out. hope you are all ok :) this is a lovely thread. i struggle to keep up and always have ti look for it in my search bar. someone needs to tell me how to watch a thread so i dont need to search for it all the time lol xxxx

That's great news littlebear!

March Benylin chesty cough is the one I use. But any brand containing guaifensin (spelling???) is what you need as that's the ingredient. You take it until 1 dpo.

However this is the time of year that people have hayfever so try and avoid antihistamines as they have the opposite effect and dry you out

It's all about the science!

X post. Fab news Littlebear phew!!!!!

Great news littlebear

Hello bear, lovely to hear its good news! That's wonderful. What meds are you on? Are you under general gynae/RMC? I'd push for some advice on the meds, under Coventry I think a reduction in medications starts at 10 weeks (I got to 9 last time so can't remember). I keep the thread open on my tablet and phone to avoid searching all the time.

freckle absolutely agree on the bounty pack saying. Thanks so much on your hcg input, its good to hear that someone else has heard of it being prescribed! I have read tbat some doctors prefer hcg as essentially it can do a similar thing to progesterone, I suppose in terms of acting on the decidual cells in the lining. I need to re-research that bit again.

He wants me to be on it now (am 5+4) because I was on prednisolone progesterone and heparin last time and it all looked good until it died at 9 weeks. Growth was consistent with O date etc. They couldn't get results on the chromosomes, so the theory is either a chromosome abnormality, or the lining was improved by the meds but not enough to withstand the 'stress test' that happens to the forming placenta when it is flooded with blood and oxygen. He feels it is reasonable to try Bhcg injections to further support the lining.

Just want to thank everyone for this thread. There is nowhere else that would understand a bounty pack joke, or where I can blurb about hcg injections etc. Just writing on here, plus hearing your opinions and veiws, will help me to be decisive one way or another. You are all endlessly supportive, I wouldn't cope at all well without you all xx

Morning, lovely sunny day here. Hope it is with everyone.

Glad to hear little ear scan went well. Are you using the app? If you do, it should save the thread to the "I'm on" section.

Meal last night was actually lovely and nosey friend for once kept quiet. Think another friend might have had a word before.

Off to tell my team today I'm likely to be off for a few weeks. They are lovely so it won't be an issue but makes me sad that it's the same conversation for the third time. Firmly putting job offer out of mind for a few weeks until I'm less emotional.

Great news on your scans bear and bootles! So pleased for you both! I admit I was worrying too bear, what are we like?!

How awesome of your epu to offer you an early scan cloud...! Hoping yours is reassuring and positive.

tanny I think having a newborn is such hardwork on any couple, never mind with rmc added too. I think it wipes out any 'coupliness' for a while and it's a case of working as a team to try and keep the house running and not bite each other's head off. Like someone said earlier (sorry can't temember who), once little Bertie is sleeping better and getting more independent and you can leave him for a bit, you can concentrate on the 'coupley' side of things and it will improve. When I had DS I felt I became a mother 1st and wife 2nd, so naturally we as a couple were put on the back burner for a while. Hope that doesn't sound too awful! If you think your hormones are playing a part too maybe there are some supplements that could help or gp might have suggestions.

freckle ha you are so funny! Are you sure you're not a secret stand up comic? Can't wait to meet you and Pop and Minnie in June!

just hope little Scott is doing ok and getting stronger, each day Is a step closer to bringing him home.

Will be thinking of you for your scan tomorrow girlie, and you on Monday bythesea. Anymore coming up?

brummie did you manage to pull your scan forward a bit?

Thanks all for support with bfn, I feel ok now, back to feeling better with my no nonsense, technical head on. Fed up of my shitty hormones tho. My period wasn't any better this month, had about 5 days spotting and a few days bleeding. It seems to be getting worse and my pms is terrible. Has anyone got any recommendations for supplements?

Thank you x

Five years ago today my innocence died and things were never the same again.

I was happy. I was 10 weeks pregnant and it was my 10th anniversary of moving to the UK...

Then I started to bleed. What did I know? I went to A&E as it was evening and they couldn't do anything, booked me at the epu the following day for a scan...

That was when innocence died, any happiness about any future pregnancy gone. The fear, the symptom spotting, the dread... That was what future pregnancies held...

After this one, four more miscarriages.
I know I am one of the fortunate ones who ended up having children, but the pain will never go away...