Recurrent miscarriage support, tests, treatments and trying again.

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Buckle up, the threads move like lightening! Tea, sympathy, information, support and combined wisdom to guide you through the maze of testing and treatment for recurrent miscarriage. Newbies always most welcome.

Please start with the traditional recap of your stats.

Spotting has started again...and it's getting stronger, I'd say I'm proper bleeding now, and it's bright red. My hope is dwindling fast Will call the EPU to see what they say.

Cheesy, me n you stuck in crazy ov land, i am really struggling to understand the abreviations though - is a smiley this time not what you need? Maybe i missed some cheesy info this week with all the shitebollocksmarking? Also - it's ment to be dry and sunny this aft! Don't be put off!! Where were you going to watch? Imagine, we might see each other!

Cloud - i was really hoping that the spotting had abaited, i am thinking of you. Call the epu if you've got one open near you. You need a scan for peace of mind. How many weeks are you now? Sending you buckets of support xxxx

Cloud thinking of you. I'd really hoped it had eased off too. Can you speak to EPU today?

Cheesy I use purple cb sticks and I has fmu too. But I've been known to use a cb in the evening as well. I think once you get a flashing smiley you can do in evening as well. Might be worth doing it tonight if you hold of peeing for a few hours. It's always worked for me

Cloud, I hope epu will see you. I so hope this is just random spotting, but I know how panicked you must be. Sending you lots of love and hugs...

cloud love and hugs coming from this direction too, and really, really hoping you're wrong. Xxxxxxxx

cloud sorry the spotting has started again. I am willing everything to be ok for you. Thinking of you xxx

freckle the purple cd test shows flashing smiley for 'high fertility' and I think it's the rise in estrogen defected. You're then meant to get a static smiley for 'peak fertility' which detects the surge in lh. I've had flashing now for about 6 days. Will do another one later today.
We're thinking of going into Barnsley for the cycling if the weather brightens up.

On the subject of prolactin, I was wondering if I had (a bit of) this too as I leaked a bit earlier this week but not bf since last August. When I was pg with last mc in jan, the sac only made it to 4.5wks but I seemed to produce milk straight away and my boobs were tingling (same as the let down feeling) weeks after the sac had stopped growing. It's like there's a minimum level of prolactin already there. Also, am I right in thinking prolactin and estrogen go together?? I believe I have estrogen dominance as I have symptoms of progesterone deficiency (spotting before af, bad pmt, depression etc) and I've been wondering if bfing skewed my hormones, which was made worse by mc1...

Prolactin sounds a possibility to me cheesey...stress also causes eostrogen dominance because cortisol raises it, yay teaching!...

cloud thinking of you today and sending a hand hold xx

Sorry the spotting has continued cloud . Really hope the epu can see you. Keeping everything crossed for you. I know you must be beside yourself. Love and hugs xx

Same ov weirdness here cheesy. So frustrating. Hoping the afternoon will bring a positive for both of us. Yawn.

I've spoken to the EPU, and as I expected, there really isn't anything they can do for me at the moment. So for now, I need to keep an eye on it, and if it doesn't get better, give them another call on Tuesday (they are actually closed for the weekend, so I'd have to go to A&E, if it gets bad).
The bleeding has stopped again (for now), and I am also feeling a bit better, so I will see what happens. Feeling very pessimistic, and sad.

Oh cloud I can't stand this first trimester worry for all of us. I always thought TTC was preferable when I was scared if losing a pregnancy.

Hand holding xx

Thanks sebs - sorry for off-loading all my worries on you, but it really helps sharing with people who know exactly what I am talking about. DH is and feels helpless, and his reaction to the spotting last night was to get plastered (I wasn't impressed ).

cloud (((hugs))) keeping everything crossed

Grrr. That's the last thing you need cloud. Hope he's feeling crap this morning. . Don't worry about speaking on here. That's what we're here for. Such a horrible, helpless feeling to know there is nothing you can do and that you just have to wait. Offload as much as you want to. We're here for you x

Oh Cloud I'm so sad for you. The first trimester is utterly terrifying.

Crap of your DH to get plastered but I understand it. I've always been someone who when you feel helpless a stiff drink seems the answer. It never is though and doesn't help you.

Don't be scared to go to A&E though if you need to. They probably can't do much but if it's get bad they can help you.

Talk to us as much you need too. We are here for you xxx

cloud no wonder you feel sad. It's not over yet though, esp as it's eased. We will be holding your hand every step. Xxx

Feel free to offload cloud!!
I know its bad form of dh, but my reaction to mc is also to get shitfaced...
Sending you positive vibes my love, we're all standing there with you, wherever you are. Xxxx

Oh cloud I'm so sorry you're still spotting. The first few weeks are so scary. Hoping you don't need a&e but I ended up there with mc1 and they were great. Handholding with crossed fingers for you. Keep talking though. We're all here to listen. Xx

Was out last night with a friend who has had two mcs which she's never talked about (she's always been quite unemotional) and appeared to brush over really easily. She basically told me she's been put on anti-depressants and her marriage is struggling, the doc attributes it to her boxing everything away. She did talk a little about it last night but it did make me realise how bloody lucky I (we) all are to have this board and each other to talk to who really get it. You're all wonderful!

Holding out another hand Cloud.

Cheesy the first time I tried CBDH I never got a solid smiley, just flashing. But think this was because I started too late in my cycle. The 2nd month I tried I never got a flashing smiley and went straight to solid. Very frustrating when other signs have disappeared.

Was also out with friends last night. Made me realise how consumed I am with all of this as I had nothing I could share or contribute.

jady I'm sure you do have things to share and contribute - even if those things didn't fir in with their particular conversation. It is all consuming though, I know what you mean.

I must admit I have not focused on researching hormonal reasons for mc, eg prolactin, as I have generally had a regular cycle and losses have ranged from 7.5 - 13 wks, and I have mainly hung on to them so it seems unlikely to be a cause. I also confess I haven't actually read Prof Regans book - how bad is that?! I have it, but then saw her and didn't get along too well and after that couldn't bring myself to read her book. Ridiculous I know.

cloud - hand holding and hugs. x