Recurrent Miscarriage Support Thread 19 - tests, treatment, trying again.

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Buckle up, the threads move like lightening! Tea, sympathy, information, support and combined wisdom to guide you through the maze of testing and treatment for recurrent miscarriage. Newbies always most welcome.

Please start with the traditional recap of your stats.

Massive congratulations Tanny. Lovely name & sounds like you got the birth you wanted in the end. Big snuggles x

Tanny hooray, hooray, hooray! Bit teary here too, funny isn't it?! So pleased for you and so glad both you and Bertie are well. Many hugs to you. xxx

Bleeding has definitely calmed down so for the moment I am hoping it will now start to dissipate.

And Tanny now you are done with you super fertility can you pass it over here please . Thank you.

Thanks for the explanation bakingtins I guess that makes a lot of sense to step back a bit. Very scary though when 41 is looming and we've been on the ttc treadmill for nearly two years.

sebsmummy1 glad the bleeding is stopping. I'm desperate for mine to and it's only been 3 days.

Aaah Baby Bertie, welcome to the world! Congrats Tanny that's wonderful news. You did it. It can happen.

Best bit of inspiration ever. I've got a bit teary too xx

loopy how are you today?

Minnie I totally understand your frustration. I think I said on the other thread, the only way through this is to prepare for the worst and hope for the best. I now tell people DS is an only and I can't have anymore. It stops the 'are you going to try for another?' chat and allows me to process that whilst it isn't a fait accompli, I have to accept this is the probable situation now and if anything positive does happen it's a bonus.

I'm a work in progress but my mental health has to come first and this somehow helps me stop panicking.

Just got round to reading the h-y antigen stuff biscuits, how interesting. I'd never heard of it, probably because i started with a girl (which, from reading some papers on it seems like it's a good thing! ) I got onto other papers about more general immune reactions in people with secondary rmc and is all very compelling that there are two very distinct groups with different causes, depending if you are primary or secondary. Makes a lot of sense.

minnie, i agree with baking that a ttc break can be a blessing in disguise. It was really hard to accept the first month, but i started back ttc feeling positive and refreshed. Feeling like you have a plan that's different from last time will also be important to minimise your anxiety next time. Fingers crossed you won't have to wait to long for the testing and rmc appointment x

Went to the hospital for blood test this morning and they called after 6pm to say hcg levels virtually back to zero so definitely not a sticky bean. Told me to stop progesterone and aspirin and that someone will contact me on Monday. They think my body might realise it's not worked and start bleeding but they don't really know as they said they would normally not expect the hcg to drop until bleeding had started. I'm wondering if the progesterone is preventing it but they said I need to speak to mr watts re questions like that. Doctor today was nice enough though, she said at this early stage it's more likely that the egg just wasn't developing right rather than my body killing it or doing anything wrong. Doesn't really make me feel at all positive of ever holding a third baby.

Tanny massive congratulations on the safe arrival of Bertie. I hope you can now relax and enjoy getting to know him after all the worry leading up to his birth, and spoil him with cuddles. They don't stay small and immobile for long. Such a precious time.

Loopy, sorry to hear that. In answer to you're progesterone q, yes it would very likely delay the bleeding. I would think it will start 24-36 hours after you stop the progesterone. Look after yourself. x

*your. My phone has no grammar...

Sorry loopy that's really crap. IME the progesterone will delay a bleed.

So so sorry to hear that loopy, sadly it's exactly the same situation as me. Yes, the progesterone will probably be stopping the bleeding. I had a very small amount of spotting a few hours after i stopped taking the progesterone then the bleeding started properly 2 days later and the pregnancy passed that same day. So sorry you're going through this. It's so awful . Don't give up hope.

I know that progesterone has an effect on the decidualisation of the uterine cells (makes them ready to accept the egg but reject any bad uns), so my theory was that maybe the progesterone did the right thing and helped my body to reject a bad egg early on, that might have otherwise gone on to be a later mc. It's not a very cheery theory but I'm clutching at straws and it's the most positive thing i could think of. When i go to Coventry I'm going to ask them about this possibility, so I'll let you know what they say if you'd be interested. Take care of yourself x

Welcome to the world baby Bertie! Congratulations, Tanny, it's lovely news!

Welcome minnie, sorry for your losses. I'm outraged at the reponse of that dr. How do you spell appalled?

heaven, I'm sorry for your losses. Your post made me giggle thinking the we regularly excommunicate people who displease the thread!

My stats are:
Me 33 DH 33
Jan 2010 DS born
Oct 2012-Nov 2013 3 MCs (shrugged them all off as bad luck)
MC4 in April 2014- lost my grip and signed off work with anxiety for 8 weeks. Spent the rest of last year building up my strength
MC5 Xmas day 2014- signed off work again for 6ish weeks and am just getting up to full speed on my phased return.

I'm in the TABLET trial and will be 6 weeks up-duffed on Monday. I go to see the trial nurse at Bristol on Tuesday for scan and blood test. I'm in denial about the whole thing as I had intended to go to Coventry(!) this month but threw caution to the wind instead. I don't think I can withstand another MC but it feels inevitable. Having said that, the sunshine of the last two days has lifted me mood tremendously.

Oh Loopy, I'm sorry sorry this is happening to you. Poor love, you are being very brave.

WOO HOO!!!!!! WELL DONE TANNY! I Hope you and Bertie are washed away on a tsunami of love, joy and euphoria!!!!! Xxx

Jady77, i have no problem feeling rage, infact, it it my go-to emotion! I find it so much easier to RAGE than express hurt and pain, which makes me feel pathetic, and i hate that. Hence the fact i can't even let myself cry about my m.c, because that's admitting something bad happened to me. Freak that i am.

However, it does allow me to freely express such violent emotions as the one that is about to follow... Minnie, welcome comrade, and if i ever meet that doctor I WILL PULL OFF HIS SAGGY AND WITHERED SCROTUM SACK AND MAKE HIM EAT IT. Wanker. Shaking with anger - bet even his wife hates him.

This is actually a posibility because i am now referred to leeds too. Pop is there too. He better keep his head down and his nose clean if he doesn't want a dinner of his own sweetmeats!

Pop - I'm in ilkley! Have you knoticed how many of us are teachers? Me, you and barkingtreefrog at least. Its got to be a factor. stress=cortisol=progesterone supression.

Ifinishedthebiscuits - i am STILL laughing every time i see your name!

Heavenknows - sorry we have to meet like this. Hope yoyr name is a deliberate Mozza ref. I'm off to see him in a week with my mate who also has rmc, bet we'll both cry!

Freckle, your rant made me laugh. Properly the words I want to say about a few people at the moment.

Loopy, so sorry. Look after yourself x

Another birthday party for dad's friends today and another remind that most of her pals have siblings. Got asked by a mum whether Amy had any siblings. "No" I replied "but three MCs later and it looks like she won't" the mum promptly moved away. Thank god the venue had a bar that I could have a sneaky glass of wine!

*dd's not dad's- blooming predictive text!

Loopy I'm so sorry lovely. Such crap news xx

Is it worth ringing Monica on Monday and seeing if your original appt is still available with Mr Watts?

Well done heading to the bar, girlie. Attagirl.

Lol Freckle that's kinda why the counsellor wanted to address the anger thing. I become enraged and take it out on poor DP, but find it impossible to cry. Followed by intense guilt for being hard on him. I get an immense sense of shame and weakness when I cry which stops the tears in their tracks. Love that you can express that anger for that doc. I'm so redressed!! He does sound like a tosser though.

Repressed even.

Thank you counting. Few of the dad's looked impressed but not the mum's (clearly I'm an alcoholic having a glass of wine at a kid's party)

No, good on you. Quite right girlie!