Recurrent Miscarriage Support Thread 19 - tests, treatment, trying again.

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Buckle up, the threads move like lightening! Tea, sympathy, information, support and combined wisdom to guide you through the maze of testing and treatment for recurrent miscarriage. Newbies always most welcome.

Please start with the traditional recap of your stats.

Sebsmummy, could possibly be underactive thyroid - which can flare up during pregnancy. But I'm pretty sure that's what some of the regular pregnancy blood tests are for so should be picked up.

Feeling cold all the time that is.

Just and Barking - good news.

And... going for record of most consecutive posts, please somebody stop me...
Monten:
"I can't bear the thought of people feeling sorry for me, that's always been my problem."
I hear ya... During my last m/c I started spotting on the Thursday, scan confirmed no heartbeat on Saturday and on the Wednesday while waiting for m/c to complete I went to a pregnant colleague's leaving do. Because the alternative - my work colleagues knowing and feeling sorry for me while celebrating the imminent birth of another colleague's baby felt even worse at that point.
And it was horrible, I had to carry a big bag full of emergency supplies everywhere, and have an escape plan at all times. But if that's what gets you through...
Having said that my sister is the last out of her friends to have kids, and hasn't invited most kids to her wedding. Most people are absolutely fine. Just the one who keeps pushing to bring her toddler but tough luck, my sister's wedding, her rules.

Just a question... How long after mc should slightly brown discharge last? Mc began over 4 weeks ago now, bleeding stopped over 3 weeks ago. Had quite a bit of discharge today and thought i might be ovulating, but did test and no.
Having such conflicted feelings about pregnant friends. Froend who hassame due date as i was, is ten years younger, is her first child i feel fine with. Other 'friend' from work who had a mc two weeks before me and is already pregnant again, before even period i just feel...resentment. Why?!

Frecklefire, I wonder if it's different attitudes. Eg humble and it's easier to be happy for them. Smug/unsupportive and it just grates. And maybe just easier to be happy for people you liked more all along?
Or maybe the friend with previous m/c feels closer to your situation.
There are certain pregnant people/people with babies who piss me off too and it's generally people who I didn't like in the first place (there's only one of those BTW and her son has been quite a bully) and those who I previously felt I had things in common with until I had four miscarriages and they... didn't.
The discharge does sound like it's gone on for quite a long time, but I don't know how long is normal? Sure someone else will be along with better advice, sorry!

Freckle, are you getting BFN now? It really depends on that I think as to whether you are likely to get AF first or ovulate first.

I have always got AF first, my body seems to take an age to clear the hormone and only ever test BFN after AF has finished. This time is different as I went the surgical route (other two were natural) but I have decided not to test as I can't handle seeing anymore lines on piss sticks for a long long time.

It was three weeks since my surgery. I stopped spotting about 4 or 5 days ago. I'm getting classic non fertile discharge and that's all I'm going by. If it turns into EWCM then I'd be amazed, I'm expecting AF to rock up within 2 weeks.

Mine were all different, ranging between one week and a few months. I think it's a how long is a piece of string - I only had ERPC's though so I don't know if that makes a difference?

Hmm...had natural mc and ovulation sticks def showing no ovulation. Preg tests were showing not pregnant 2 weeks ago. Maybe the sticks are useless (tesco) or maybe its because the miscarrige was missed this time (i was 11 weeks but it had stopped at 7). I should just stop wondering and wait for af. Thanks for the advice girls. Xxxx

Freckle Tesco hpts are extremely sensitive. They gave me BFP on 8dpo.

I think if you tested negative a while ago you stand a very good chance of ovulating before AF. So I would opk test every day and look out for fertile mucous. Good luck! Xx

Hi all, welcome to the new ones. Sorry for your losses and all this pain.

I'm halfway through my between-scan limbo. 6 days til I go back and there will either be a heartbeat or there won't. Meantime it's one day at a time.i have the pregnancy symptoms sickness/exhaustion but I know from last time it doesn't mean the pregnancy is alive.

Funny you mentioned being cold seb. I've been on levothyroxine for a week and I am freezing the whole time.

just so pleased your scan went great

barking good work on your thick juicy lining

freckle it could be that your spotting leads straight into af... There does seem to be no 'normal' for bleeding after mc. With mc2 I only stopped spotting for a week before af came. Think I spotted a few days after nil hcg (was having blood tests) but I was only 7-8 wks (sac 4-5 weeks) when I miscarried.

I started spotting a yesterday (pink when wiped) and today there was some blood so it looks like 2nd af must be here a few days early for me. Problem is it would mean my lp is too short by 3-4 days... FFS!!

counting the wait must be horrible and very difficult to get through. The pregnancy symptoms are a positive sign though. X

counting hugs to you, it is so awful that wait. Wish I could say something to help and make it zoom by.

flower cycle bonkersness is so bewildering isn't it? I am sticking my finger somewhere I don't usually every blimmin' five seconds at the moment, followed by googling cm, ewcm, cervical position, ovulation etc etc etc. My cycle seems to have lengthened by 2 days post mc3, the changes are so unsettling.

flen I'm starting to hate how it's taking over my life. The things we have to go through as women..!

It's making me wonder, I assumed I was 'back to normal' the cycle I got pg with mc2, but given I am spotting again with 2nd af I'm assuming I wasn't, maybe that was what caused it to go wrong...

On another note, I'm thinking of having acupuncture. Has anyone been to one in sheffield they can recommend. I'm looking at Zhong Jing if anyone has heard of her? Ta x

flower I know! It does take over, I think, but that for me is partly because suddenly we are out of sync with ourselves. Those familiar rhythms become unfamiliar and strange, and it's a process of trying to get back in rhythm (for me, rather desperately!)

I have loved acupuncture, I find it calming and it has had an impact - my overall bbt has stabilised and gone up slightly, my migraines are less intense. We will see if it helps with the actual pregnancy!

flen I'm a bit of a control freak at heart too and need to know what's going to happen. So all this uncertainty is slowly driving me mad.
All the things I've read about acupuncture sound quite amazing and I think it would be good to have a different perspective on what the problem might be.

I would definitely recommend acupuncture. My own experience is that during the 8 or so months I was recovering from MC2 and TTC my cycles were as short as 23 days. I started going to acupuncture weekly and she got me to 26 days, then 27 days and on the month I fell pregnant it was on track to be 28 days. I honestly don't think it's a coincidence that I wasn't falling pregnant with such short cycles. Previously they had been 25 days so finding three days was brilliant.

I just tried to ring my EPAU to make sure I was in the system re. my RMC appointment. Alas they are shut today. I don't want to go back to my GP as I hate them so I don't really know who to contact. The senior lady I was dealing with during my MC said she would refer me and I would hear around 6 weeks post MC but I'm so concerned that 6 weeks will suddenly swing round and there will be no appointment. It's really worrying me

flower love acupuncture, I find it so relaxing. And my AF has improved since I started. This month, I haven’t had a session in over two weeks, and my AF is terrible – lots of cramps, light and no red flow. That can’t be a coincidence.

ifinishedthebiscuits that sounds so hard. At first I was really glad colleague’s knew and now I hate the fact they know and are wondering why I’m still not pregnant again. It bugs me. Thinking of you

counting. The waiting is appalling. You’ve done really well, over half way now.

I'm another advocate of acupuncture. I do feel really calm afterwards and it's just another positive thing to do, isn't it. Plus my acupuncturist is a good listener and actually seems like she understands my worries.
Speaking of feeling cold, i know in traditional Chinese medicine, feeling cold means something. No idea what, but it's one of the questions the acu woman asked me.

Counting, Been thinking about you and keeping my fingers crossed. Such a torturous time x

I have always been a bit skeptical of acupuncture as being a bit woo but my hospital offer it before they start an induction so I might give it a whirl as my due date approaches as I am not allowed to go very overdue rhis time. Is there any science behind it?

Also (stupid question) does it actually hurt or just feel weird?

Morning all.

Another acupuncture convert in this corner. I love it. It doesn't hurt, although the bits that need help sting a bit. So for me, the needle point that represent cervix and endometrium sting. But everywhere else can't feel a thing.

I go to a specialist fertility acupuncturist called Mike Gorman who is based in Solihull if anyone Midlands based is considering it.

Flen I have to stick my finger weird places too. How has my life come to this???

But.... I've ovulated!!!! Woo hoo!!! Been naughty and testing twice a day and got flashing smiley last night and static smiley face this morning, bang on day 9 as always.

Emailed Kerri ASAP and I'm at Coventry next Friday - 27th,
the day before I go to Cornwall for a few days so actually timing is perfect.

I go on hols then come back and pre-op appt is 10th April and hystereoscopy is 20th April and then hopefully next AF, then we can try again.

I can just about, and I mean just about see the glimmer of light at end of tunnel for us starting to TTC again.

Then we start that journey with all the trials and tribulations...

Another vote for acupuncture here, it brought back my awol AF after mc #1 and levelled out my hormones. I also think it has helped with my currently lovely womb lining . There are loads of studies on it.

sebs I was told the same thing but had the same concern that I might be waiting for an appt that might not happen, I called on Monday to check to find that the referral had not been made, they were so apologetic and as a result gave me the next available appt (April 1st) with a consultant who happens to be the top consultant!! So it might be worth calling the EPAU when they are next open?