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Recurrent Miscarriage Support Thread 18 - tests, treatment, trying again.

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bakingtins · 20/02/2015 18:57

Buckle up, the threads move like lightening! Tea, sympathy, information, support and combined wisdom to guide you through the maze of testing and treatment for recurrent miscarriage. Newbies always most welcome.

Please start with the traditional recap of your stats.

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sebsmummy1 · 03/03/2015 08:21

Brummie I do wonder whether you might miss you period altogether and come on as you would expect your next AF? I would keep an eye on your CM and if it starts to look like EWCM then go an opk. I can remember missing a couple of periods in my life and it was weird but went back to normal with my next. Sometimes the body just has a blip. I also remember English from the old TTC thread having a really weird long cycle and it didn't stop her getting pregnant a couple of cycles later. So try not to be too upset.

I'm up and down. I knew the most difficult bit would be once people stop texting and arranging to see you and life has to just tick along with either the same or a new routine. My old routine is too painful to go back to so once again a MC has forced change. I'm taking DS to look around a pre school today that is connected to the school he will be going to when he is 5. He is 2.5 at the moment so we are going to sign him up for two afternoons until he is eligible for his free 15 hours and then he can go 5x afternoons a week. I am getting back to doing some work stuff at home so I guess once he goes to school properly I can think about restarting my business again. Bittersweet as I was hoping to be raising more children but realistically I think I need to assume that ain't going to happen.

bakingtins · 03/03/2015 08:47

tanny good luck today, hope this gets baby on the move.

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Marchgirl · 03/03/2015 09:00

Happy due date tanny! Hope you get the sweep today to get things started Grin

Totally know that feeling of being completely consumed flen. I've barely looked up in the last 16 months, with nothing to show for it. A little holiday sounds like a nice idea. Hopefully when you are ready to ttc again after Coventry you will feel refreshed and ready to go all the way Smile

Looks like Coventry will be busy in the next month.

Monten · 03/03/2015 09:02

tanny I am so excited for you I might burst! Good luck!

Brummie hugs - it's a head fuck, it really is. As you rightly said, it's the loss of control that screws you up. I should also have said - the cycle before I conceived the first time was nine days longer than normal. For no apparent reason. And I conceived the next cycle so it did not indicate anything sinister. It does just happen sometimes.

cloud I am thinking of asking DP to get his swimmers tested. I think he drinks to much but more than that he SMOKES. As a very sanctimonious ex-smoker myself this bothers me A LOT but I try to hold it down.

flen cloud I'm so sorry for the bfns. It is truly shit. The TTC merry go round is relentless. And tedious as hell. And AF arriving is a reminder every month of what we have lost. I always find the actual day she arrives the worst and after that I start to feel hopeful again. I hope your MRI goes well cloud, when is it again?

Hugs to freckle and counting and anyone else who needs one. I'm another one who feels like the last year and a half has been about nothing but babies and losing babies and trying to have more babies. It's exhausting.

Question for the charting ladies. How big a jump can be considered a 'thermal shift'? I haven't been doing it every single day, but most days. Temp hovering around 36.53 to 36.55 pre-ov, I think I ov'd on Sunday and now the last two days it has been 36.56 and 36.58. I'm using the Ovia app and it looks like a clear shift on the graph. But that seems a really small shift??!

Marchgirl · 03/03/2015 09:22

That does seem a little bit small monten, but i know it can vary. I thought it was normally about 0.1 or bigger. Mine is 36.7-36.9 going up to 37.1-37.4 (i don't have the really sensitive thermometer). Maybe you are just someone who has a smaller shift . Have you tried fertility friend? It plots the Coverline and ov point on a chart when it sees a big enough shift, so might be easier to spot

tannyLoo · 03/03/2015 09:32

So, sweep done and successful! Started having a show and so far one proper contraction. Woohoo!

I wore my rings that are to remember all my lost babies, and as the complete atheist I am, felt them rooting for us both and telling us we were going to be alright. I still feel it now, and it's a real comfort.

God, I hope everyone here gets to feel this...

Marchgirl · 03/03/2015 09:34

Found this on fertility friend site:
"The rise in temperature is usually about 0.4 degrees Fahrenheit or 0.2 degrees Celsius, but the rise may be as slight as 0.2 degrees Fahrenheit or 0.1 degrees Celsius or even less in some cases. The actual temperatures are less important than noting abiphasic pattern showing two levels of temperatures."

So it seems that's fine as long as you see the shift sustained for 3 days

Marchgirl · 03/03/2015 09:35

Yay tanny!, glad it's got things moving, will be looking for the update. All rooting for you x

Flower29 · 03/03/2015 09:49

Awwh tanny, your words just brought tears to my eyes! It's lovely that you can feel your other babies there with you and you know it's going to be ok. Good luck! I hope it isn't too painful but sure you'll enjoy it anyway after everything you've been through. Can't wait to hear of the new arrival! Smile

longestlurkerever · 03/03/2015 09:52

Yeay tanny good luck!

Congratulations on the new job twilight! And good luck with starting your new business sebs. I started a new role when pg with mc2 and was so glad I did because putting your life on hold for something that doesn't work out feels like a kick in the teeth, and it helped time pass more quickly while ttc and in early pg.

Have collected my blood sugar testing machine and midwife was quite reassuring. New diet already seems to be having results as my mouth and eye are better, though could be coincidence obviously.

Catlover2014 · 03/03/2015 09:58

How exciting Tanny! Hope all goes well, will be waiting to hear your news. XxX

Catlover2014 · 03/03/2015 10:01

Just heard about Becky Watts. It's so awful. Why are there such cruel people in this world? She was only 16, life ahead of her. Having a little cry here.

bakingtins · 03/03/2015 10:06

Woo-hoo tanny so exciting!

My lovely mum has come and taken over for a few days, took the boys to school and then has headed out with F in the buggy to walk the dog. I'm quite teary with relief at getting a break. Must pull myself together before meeting at work tomorrow...

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Monten · 03/03/2015 10:13

Eeek good luck tanny!! So exciting. And we don’t know what colour he/she is either!! combusts with excitement

Thank you march I consulted Google too (must do that before I ask next time) and found the same info. So hopefully, this looks like I ovulated. It’s quite fun this temping business! OPKs just don’t work for me so to have concrete proof I have ovulated is super exciting. I keep looking at my graph and feeling all pleased. It seems my body likes to just be really subtle – OPKs don’t work, small temp rise and I don’t get hugely noticeable ewcm either. I wish it wouldn’t hide it’s light under a bushel so much!

bythesea82 · 03/03/2015 10:27

tanny woohoo. Good luck, can't wait for more details. Feeling a bit emotional GrinFlowers

bythesea82 · 03/03/2015 10:30

Sorry, phone not working very well so cross posted with a few people. longest pleased you are feeling more positive and have everything you need now.
baking not suprised you feel emotional at times, you're really being put through some testing times. Glad you've got a bit of a break, hope the meeting goes well tomorrow.

bythesea82 · 03/03/2015 10:32

Agree about that Becky Watts thing, Is horrible. There is a new exhibition on at the Wellcome Trust in London about forensics which looks interesting, might go and visit when I feel my life needs putting in perspective!

Marchgirl · 03/03/2015 10:34

Yes, i feel quite empowered by doing the temping too monten. Made me realise how little i knew what was going on beforehand.

Glad you are getting a break baking, good luck for the meeting tomorrow

Pleased you are getting some support from your midwife re the gd longest. Hopefully it won't be too hard to keep it under control. And it's really not your fault. You've done everything you can for shortest and I'm sure it will all be ok.

tannyLoo · 03/03/2015 11:44

The Becky Watts thing is awful isn't it? As a Bristolian it feels especially close.

Well I am in labour. Contractions every 5-7 minutes and getting stronger! We're at home for the time being, as I've had a stop starty labour before. Hopefully will meet baby Tan today!

Flen · 03/03/2015 11:45

Is 10 mlu or 20mlu more sensitive with an ovulation test? Never had much luck with them, but going to try them this month to identify when to go to Coventry...

Marchgirl · 03/03/2015 11:51

If it's like hpt (and i think it is) then 10 is more sensitive flen

Wow, that's quick tanny. At this rate it'll be a home birth!

Flen · 03/03/2015 12:00

Thanks march - I actually think I was getting confused by Amazon, who had lumped the pregnancy and ov tests together...

Marchgirl · 03/03/2015 12:01

I think the ics are normally 10 for hpt and 20 for opk.

Marchgirl · 03/03/2015 12:02

Although i don't actually believe the 10 for hpt, as they are definitely not as sensitive as frer, which are 10. I think they are more like 25

sebsmummy1 · 03/03/2015 12:10

Aaaah good luck Tanny. Hope it's one push and baby is in your arms for a cuddle xxx