Recurrent Miscarriage Support Thread 16 - tests, treatment and trying again

[Justonemoretime]

Information, support, hand holding, tea, sympathy and a hell of a lot of combined knowledge - all welcome as we try to make sense of the RMC roller coaster of tests, NHS admin, heart ache and (hopefully) happy endings!
Please start with a recap of your stats :)

Oh barking you have my sympathies, hate uti infections. I'm afraid I not very clued up on these things but I always think about it like this. There's a difference between 'contraindicated' and untested. I think drug testing for use in pregancy is incredibly expensive so when they say 'not advised' it doesn't necessarily mean bad just not tested.

Hmm- I've just read that back and it sounds a bit loony. But you're right - it's so early. Unless it harmed implantation (unlikely?) then there's no chance of any drugs crossing blood stream yet.

Could you call your gp?

Sorry about bfn flen but digis are notoriously unsensitive. It could really just be too early. Seeing that 'not pregnant' is such a slap in the face tho. Hugs.

barking I have read that baking soda and water is meant to help UTIs - I took it once when I was in the US and not able to get to a doctor. I needed anti-biotics when I got back, but think the baking soda (and cranberry juice too) did give some relief. Hugs from me, UTIs are miserable.

Thanks everyone else for your thoughts - going to get OH to get some more sensitive tests today and will test again tomorrow. And the next day. And the next. I'm too impatient, clearly...

Barking, sorry about the uti. Maybe ask your pharmacist? They can usually give good advice. I sent my dh down to boots with a list of questions a couple of times in the early days. In the mean time, cranberry juice?

just that is PERFECT! And I so love the thought of you removing the PVC covering to get rid of the glare. This is all perfect perfect and EXACTLY where my brain is at the moment.

lol, glad you enjoyed

Barking - I would stay away from the cystopurin and stick with the antibiotics only. Cystopurin 'only' gives you symptomatic relief, and you need to know wether the abs are working - which to me sound as if they don't! After 3 days, you should no longer have any symptoms, so I would really advise to call the out of hours docs again, you might need stronger ones!
Utis are awful! Hope you get better soon! X

Just can I say, I really enjoy reading your blog. I find comfort in seeing how I feel on words in front of me - and realising I'm not the only one who feels that way

I agree just. I've read it before but the entry about testing is spot on. Hilarious

This is the one that made me snort, as I've done this so many times...

1. Google â??Early Pregnancy Symptomsâ??. Find you have hardly any of them. Google â??Very Early Pregnancy Symptomsâ??.

It really is bonkers that we all do this My extra one is to decide that my internet cheapie is a duff batch, and drive frantically to the nearest supermarket to stock up on FRER. Then panic because they have first response tests, but not the really early ones and I'm not sure if they are sensitive enough, because I'm only 7dpo after all...

Aww, thanks :) I'm glad you're finding the posts enjoyable/helpful.

I'm having a clear out today and have a few books I can pass on:
Coming to term by Jon Cohen
Taking control of your fertility by Dr Tori someone
Is your body baby friendly (passed to me by Baking - thank you
and one about the mind/body fertility connection.
Sorry I've left them upstairs as I type and am v lazy... I can check titles/authors later if you don't know which books I mean. It will be a week or so before I can get to a post office. I will also throw in my supply of internet cheapie opks and htps if anyone wants them, I have a few hanging around in a drawer. Pm me your address if you want any of this stuff.

Thank you so much ladies, got myself all worked up this morning. I managed to get out of the house for a dog walk with my friend without having a toilet incident, which is what I was worried about... So I'm going to leave the cystopurin and now I'm safely home and near my toilet I'm going to drink fluids all afternoon to try and flush it out.

Yes, yes, yes to the early testing and symptom spotting. So far (bearing in mind I'm only 6/7dpo today, iui treatment was last Saturday, I have noticed:

• insomnia. (Definitely a symptom and not due to the stress of the treatment and mind whirring)
• tiredness. (Definitely a symptom and not due to the insomnia)
• cramps. (Definitely super early implantation and not due to the UTI)
• going to the toilet frequently. (Again, probably pregnant rather than just the UTI).

Official Test Day is next Saturday, which is perfect as I have the wkd to get my head round the result before having to deal with work. But last time I tested early. I have two frer tests sitting waiting in the house. The thing is, a bfn will just make me think it's too early, and a bfp will just seem irrelevant until the clinic have tested the hcg levels to find out whether it's a potentially viable pg. . One week to go....

Haha. Do you all Google things like "can a cough be a sign of early pregnancy?" Etc. Almost anything can be if you google hard enough. I have pretty honed research skills now.

Good luck for next week's scans ladies!!!

My 20 week scan is on the 16th Feb. Having the odd flutter but not much at all and it's not even every day. Is that normal for 18 weeks with 1st baby or should I be worried?

Sorry to hear about your UTI barking they are just grim. Hope antibiotics sort it soon.

Cat that's completely normal! Lots of women don't feel kicks until at least 20 weeks with their first, and they don't settle down into regular patterns of movement until about 24 weeks I think. If you get worried though, don't worry alone, your mws will be happy to have a listen for reassurance, honest. x

Ha ha, love your post just! I have fished them out of the bin a few times, even a couple of days later 'just to make sure'! Never considered the glare of the plastic skewing the view tho.... And also the googling symptoms! I'm terrible for googling everything!
cat with my son I didnt have 'proper' movements (that I wasn't sure we're just gas) until 19/20 wks and even then I can't remember feeling them daily or more regularly for probably another few weeks. I would just call your mw tho just to put your mind at ease. Try not to worry, it all sounds normal.
baking that's great news about Faith, I hope the weaning goes well and she will start to feel more herself (and less starving) very soon x

Cat this is my second and I've only just started feeling the odd lump and bump - not even too sure if it's baby or not - I'm putting it down to dd being five so a long break in between. I've got my 20 week scan on the 16th too and am bricking it something's wrong! I'm sure it's the paranoia kicking in though!

Ooooh, barking, we're cycle buddies! 7 DPO here, testing day will be next Saturday or Sunday... DH gets back from his ski trip on Sunday morning, so I might have surprise for him. Or not.
I never have any symptoms before testing, other than my temp staying high, but it's too early for that. So trying to keep really busy and not think about it (yeah, right...).

I have a random nosey question. For those that are on progesterone and trying.

Do you just start taking it from 7 dpo and then if it's a bfn just stop using?

I'm curious about how all this works - and stocking up info for my appt!

Brummie, yes, that's right. Test for pg on 14 dpo and stop the progesterone if bfn, continue if bfp.

Cat, try not to worry, sporadic flutters at 18 weeks sounds normal to me. You will probably feel the flutters become little kicks and more regular over the coming weeks. Remember, it also depends on where your placenta is (front or back) and which way the baby is facing (if its facing your back, you won't feel it as much). Remember, also, the baby will sleep a lot of the time. But do call you MW if you want extra reassurance. I found that kicking was going on that I couldn't feel as the doppler picked up the thuds a couple of weeks before I could really feel them.

Dodged a bullet tonight. Was supposed to go to a birthday do down in Bucks. But due to snow this morning and feeling fragile I bailed out.

Just seen some fb pics and my pregnant friend (the lunch announcement one!) is there. I'm so relieved I didn't go. Everyone either asking me how I am, or worse, ignoring it, and pregnant friend there. Awkward much????

But then that makes me so sad. That I have to think this. Will facing pregnant women ever get any easier? I'm hurt that I've not really heard from her either (she can't win can she?).

It seems all I can remember at the moment is grief.

I'm also angry that the only answer to my grief is for people to say "but there are going to be pregnant women everywhere, you are going to have to get on with it"

Yes because that makes it hurt less.

Jog the fuck on

Awwwh brummie
People who say that clearly haven't been in your position. Yes it's true that there's always going to be pregnant women but it's also true that it's a constant reminder and must be so painful to see. It makes it all the more shittier to deal with, especially seeing it everyday. Be easy on yourself and don't let people tell you how you should feel, only you know how you feel and I think it's more than normal not wanting to see pg women. X