Recurrent Miscarriage Support - tests, treatment, trying again - thread 12

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Welcome everyone! A thread for anyone who has suffered recurrent losses and is in need of support, information, moral support or tea and sympathy. Newbies very welcome.

Please can we start (as is traditional) with a recap of where we are on 'the journey'.

Welcome Ifitsnot. I am really sorry to hear about the loss of your much wanted dc3 and difficulties getting pregnant. Are you pretty sure it was your thyroid issue that caused the loss? That must be so upsetting to feel it could have been prevented but perhaps means it is worth trying again with your new meds in place? Have you had any other tests? After 3 miscarriages you are entitled to tests on the NHS. The most useful of these may be tests on the embryo itself to see if there were chromosomal abnormalities. Are you undergoing an ERPC? If so this is fairly straightforward. If not you may need to try and catch the "products" (sorry) if you want them to be sent for testing. Other standard RMC tests are for clotting disorders as well as thyroid and insulin, and other more innovative tests include NK cell testing but this is not available on the NHS. Several people on this thread have undergone this type of testing though and can tell you more about it.

Whereabouts in the country are you? We are well represented in London, Bristol and the midlands and you may find a poster who can tell you more about clinics in your local area.

I will check out your link - my thyroid reading was 2.28 but I was told not to worry about it. Should I?

tiny delighted that it was another good scan!

ifitsnot I'm sorry to hear about your recent MC, it must be particularly gutting to lose one when you have been TTC for so long. Were the earlier MCs attributed to your thyroid problems or is that more recent? I suspect you find yourself in the position I was in after MC3 where your successful pregnancy resets the count as far as NHS investigations goes, but it's certainly worth asking, particularly if you've taken a long time to conceive.

Yay tiny!!

Cloud - I know how you feel. I have had way too many pg announcements this month from colleagues, family, friends and royalty! Hope you are feeling better now. I also dislike the time to ovulation as I never have energy to dtd and more often dh gets busy with work right at the critical time.

Welcome to the newbies- sorry that you find yourself here but as you will see from success stories of tanny, tiny and baking - we will all hopefully get there too!

And breathe. Line is getting darker. Still not exactly dark, but a normal person would admit there is a line there now, not just an obsessive loon squinting at the light.

Dd had six accidents at nursery today. Six! And they didn't call me home, thank goodness, but I don't suppose I can rely on thrm being saintly. Guess what I am spending my holiday doing?

Tiny yay! That is brilliant news!

Longest you too, a line getting darker is good indeed!

Cloud I cooked my way through my last MC to fill some sort of hole. The only hole it really filled was my belly

I had a job interview today. Breathed in quite a lot..

Sorry to newbies. It is the club no one wants to join, but we are friendly and knowledgeable.

tiny that is wonderful! - I was thinking it must have been another scan coming soon. Remind me...did you go to Coventry and the results were normal? Are you on meds?

triple, cloud I'm glad I'm not the only one who is not exactly enthusiastic about DTD. The pressure to MAKE SURE you do it, regardless of whether you are knackered and irritable, is really a drag sometimes. Well, a lot actually.

cloud god I'm impressed you tried the princess cake. I love to bake, but that looked like one complex dessert. I'm sorry you are starting to feel like it isn't going to happen. Hang in there, but I get it. This last month, I have been feeling like I am facing a reality of only having one child. I know many on here have none YET, and entirely recognise how lucky I am to have one, but I still feel heartbroken at the thought, and want to weep.

Welcome 'ifitsnot' sorry for your losses. I echo what has been said already and hope you are getting g support in RL.

longest getting potty training sorted will give you something to focus on! At least in Oz it will be hot, which always helps if there are going to be lots of wet clothes.... Do you have a good supply of internet cheapy tests? I was going to say don't drive yourself mad by POAS every 10 mins, but I always do, and decided the answer is to just get a big supply in.

Bootles my lovely. There is hope yet. That said I am starting to understand what it might feel like to feel enough is enough. Being pregnant again has made it even clearer to me how difficult it is to adopt an emotional detachment as a guard against miscarriage and a fourth miscarriage will be really hard to bear.

Dd was more or less potty trained but the final push to stop the accidents has massively backfired. Hv and Dr now involved. Sigh. (As a side note my tablet has a comedy autocorrect a :-/ face whenever I type hv. To be fair this one is nice)

Bootles, yes both St Marys and Coventry results normal, but Coventry put me on progesterone from CD 21 and clexane from a 6w scan showing it in place.
I think the scratch might have helped too. Didn't fall pregnant first cycle but on the second after seeing them

Aw longest, potty training was my least fave bit of parenting so far. And we are not totally done yet, still on night pull ups...

Thanks longest. Yes, that's it, a sort of growing awareness of what its like to feel enough is enough. But today you are pregnant. Maybe the way forward is to accept the fear, know the feelings are inevitable, and tell yourself you will cope, whatever happens. Everything everything crossed though that this is your sticky one.

A nice HV has to be good. Hope it all gets sorted soon.

tiny this scratch business is very interesting. Whichever part of it is making a difference, keep doing what you're doing! Hope you are managing to stay relatively sane through it all.

I'm embracing the nausea... And freaking out quietly

Great news tiny

I'm 5+5 and I've just had pink cm! Fuck why did I do this to myself again?.

Hey Purple, nice to hear from you. Hope the pink is just bedding in. Good luck.
Tiny, yay!
Waves to everyone.
CD 26 here... poas: BFN
Will try again after the weekend, but I think its time to email Coventry again as 3 months with progesterone and now 4 without seems to be a long time. I think I was supposed to report back after last month but I was really busy with everything and forgot. I was secretly hoping the casual approach might have led to a bfp, but never mind! And I've got a cold. Bleugh.

Just, sorry it's another bfn. I hope Coventry have something more to offer. I still think they're the ones, and I really want them to be the ones for you too! x

Purple I fully understand that feeling, and as Just says, it could just be early spotting. Crossing fingers for you.

Bootles - I saw your post on the pred thread and just from the success of tanny and tiny - I would suggest going to Coventry. Also their treatment is less aggressive. Having said that I was also worried about aggressive treatment from London doctors but then when I desire a child so much you take the plunge. So I did the pred from ovulation and 40mg from bfp etc. I wasn't too bad - I have gained weight and got facial hair but hopefully it will go away eventually !! I am glad I did it anyway even though my issues are chromosomal (or at least this time were).

Longest - hope you are ok. Have u got in touch with st Mary's for an early scan?

Just - sorry it's a bfn. Do contact Coventry. How long did it take you to conceive previously? 7 months is not a long time according to doctors but for us every month counts. And every mc the clock starts again! Is it worth seeing your GP to make sure everything else is ok ie hormone tests and check you are ovulating etc? I did this after 7 months of trying then also got my tubes checks (hycosy) and fell pg (of course mc as usual).

Sorry Just. I echo what everyone else has said. Could it be hormone related?

Triple. I did yes, and it is booked for the day I get back from Oz. Feels ridiculously optimistic to book something so far in advance and I can't help but think of all the other appointments I have had to cancel but I am trying to stay calm.

I got pregnant quicker this time - first cycle of trying which is unheard of for me. 2 things I did differently - 1) took agnus castus from AF to ov. 2) (and sorry for tmi) put my mooncup in after red around ov. I read somewhere this can hold the swimmers closer to your cervix. No idea if either of those things made a difference but thought I would share.

Well it's a no vote. Normally work from home on Fridays but had planned to go in today to witness the excitement (civil servant) but not sure there will be much going on now. May go in anyway in case there's a team lunch!

So sorry just, do get in touch with Coventry and see what they tell you!

Longest how far along will you be when back from Oz? fingers crossed for you!!!

I am secretly happy for NO as well... I am Scottish by marriage and from the MIL heard a lot about the yeses tactics and that wasn't very nice...

I hesitate to work it out Tiny but nearly 8 weeks I think. Further than I have ever got since dd, anyway.

Lovely news for those ladies getting positive news and hugs for those not getting the news they wanted. Today is first day I haven't woken up with massive headache which hopefully sign that hormones are starting to settle down. Good job as at home with my 3 year old, who definitely got out of bed on the wrong side this morning!

Hi ladies, gosh there's a lot to catch up with on here! Here goes...

Welcome ifits. Sorry to hear about your losses, I hope your recovery is going Ok.

Congrats longest on your BFP lines getting darker. Keeping everything crossed for you.

Also congrats to tiny on your scan results - brilliant news.

Hi purple. I hope you've had no further spotting and it was just from implantation.

just I'm sorry to hear about your BFN. Could it be too early?

bootles sorry you're feeling sad. Hope you're getting well taken care of in RL

girlie glad to hear you're starting to feel better - it gives me hope that I might turn a corner soon! I'm still getting awful headaches and feeling knackered. Seeing the GP later as I'm just not sure I can manage going back to a full week of ten hour days at work next week, hoping that I can arrange a phased return, but feeling really bad/lazy/disappointed that I'm not better yet. I think the hormones are not quite finished with me yet!

On a lighter note, anyone doing anything fun for the weekend?

Go tiny

longest Stop testing That way madness lies. A line is a line is a line. Today you are pregnant!
Try not to get too stressed about the whole potty training issue. We found it was one step forward and two steps back... DS still has the odd accident and is still in nappies at night. Your nursery just needs to deal with this and should be supportive!

purple Have a hand-hold. Please try not to freak out too much! Can you rest up for the day?

just Sorry about the BFN. And your cold. Insult and injury, eh? Have some at the weekend! And treat yourself to something nice, you deserve it.

tanny Well done for the interview! Did I miss something - I thought that you recently started your own jewellery business? Or am I now completely confused and that was someone else...? But good luck for getting a new job anyway!

Bristol It takes time, try to get lots of rest (chocolate, cake and TV). Take more time off if you need to, nothing worse than going back to work too soon.

Had a nice dinner with my friends last night. They both have had mcs as well, before going on to have children, so they understand. Although both quizzed me a bit as to why I want to continue and ttc, after all I have been through by now. But they both understand the feeling of 'not being done'.

I need to gear myself up to getting into the mood for dtd somehow . Urgh.

Hey Cloud, yes my employment status is a bit wonky. I left my shitty job to start my own jewellery business but then got upduffed. I was so poorly I couldn't work, and the business got neglected at the very time when I needed to build it up

It was a hard call, because this is the second time life have got in the way of dream job, but life is wayyyyy more important

We still need my income, so I've had to sign on with an agency to get some money coming in. Thinking about how we were going to survive was giving me sleepless nights and palpitations...

I'll get back to jewellery when we're a bit more financially settled, say after paying through the nose for childcare, and in the meantime I aim to do a few shows and fairs a year to keep my hand in.

And the interview reminded me that not all vol sector orgs are full of shitkickers, and that I miss working with people sometimes. I should hear on Monday if I was successful.

Thanks everyone, I have scan booked for Monday, have gone to work to distract myself