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Recurrent Buns Graduates - Pregnancy and Beyond

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Glitterybits · 06/07/2011 21:53

Thought it was about time we had a new home for all those lovely ladies who used to frequent the original Recurrent Buns thread, or anyone else who has been through the hideous journey of miscarriage, recurrent miscarriage, infertility, testing etc. and now finds themselves either pregnant and in need of hand-holding (or better yet) with their long-awaited bundle(s) of joy.

I know it perhaps seems a little inappropriate to start a thread in the miscarriage topic but it still seems the most relevant spot for those of us who haven't yet completed the journey - and nowhere else really seemed right or fair to everyone.

I do hope you'll come along and say hello. I do miss you all!

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LAF77 · 17/08/2011 17:08

Yes digital when they found that the levels were high, they called me that night at 18:30. I missed the call and totally freaked out when I heard the voicemail.

I'd guess that if you don't hear anything today, you are OK.

Sorry I missed you! They are quite quick at taking bloods there, very little waiting. The lady who does it is good. She was horrified when she saw my left arm as ESH took a blood sample from me when I was checking my Vit D levels and they badly bruised me in the process, so she had to take from my right instead. It took over a week for the bruising to go away!

MummyAbroad · 17/08/2011 17:58

LAF great news!!! Have a big congratulatory hug from me and then go have a snooze on the sofa! xxxxxx

well done on Scan booking digi Smile

mumatron · 17/08/2011 18:13

Yay! laf will be back later to post more.

stillfrazzled · 17/08/2011 22:29

I have spent the last three days waiting for enough time to do a proper post! Clearly not going to happen so you?re going to get my half-asleep mumblings here.

I ended up going into work to see my boss on Monday. It turned out to be a really good thing - I was very careful to be positive and helpful, and in return she was prepared to be v flexible. We?ve worked out a compromise which includes two extra half days at work, but getting home in time to pick DS1 up from school. So no time lost with the boys beyond what I?d already expected. Not official yet, but no reason to think it won?t happen (beyond paranoia?). Much happier.

F continues to be enchantingly gorgeous and happy and additionally has slept till 5.30am the last three nights. I picked the No Cry Sleep Solution up in a charity shop and realised I was basically shoving a boob in his mouth every time he whimpered, prob before he woke up properly Blush. Now I?m trying not to do that, he mostly goes back to sleep. I don?t seem to have learned much on my second baby?

DS1 mostly adorable, occasionally maddening but always interesting. We?ve done some baking and Lego together this week and it?s been great.

Julez I read your recent problems with my jaw dropping. I?m so sorry. Can?t believe things are still being so difficult for you. Poor poor little O, but poor you too. I?m also stuffing avocado down L like there?s no tomorrow but at least I have the option of other stuff. How is he on fruit? And soya stuff? Was wondering about yoghurts and so on. FWIW, my friend?s DD has multiple allergies but had them right from the off - anaphylactic shock from her first mouthful of dairy, that sort of thing. Hopefully O can grow out of his problems, but God it must be heart-rending and so frustrating.

Mumatron I?m normally a bit defensive of MILs, having two boys, but yours is a lunatic Grin. I also read your other thread about your ex with my jaw dropping. Weirdly, I saw the title in Most Active and hoped it wouldn?t be you, and then it was!

How did things go with work? You have my full sympathy, this is a horrible process. All weekend I kept looking at F and wanting to cry.

MummyAbroad so glad things are looking up a bit and you?ve found a doctor, even if they do sound scary.

Coconuts Chuffed about your light bulb moment, although - at risk of slipping into drippy therapy-speak - how you feel is how you feel and you have a right to it. Beating yourself up because you feel the ?wrong? way won?t achieve anything other than making you feel worse. You?re scared because, in our shoes, this is scary. The tons of other fab things in your life are great, but go in a separate box. Or that?s how it felt for me, anyway. Hopefully I haven?t talked you out of feeling better Smile, just wanted to say you might be mad, but it?s normal-mad.

Glittery Ow. Owowowowowowowowowow. Love and sympathy and hope you?re feeling a hell of a lot better now. Did you manage to keep feeding? My friend had mastitis and her doddery GP told her to stop. La Leche League later told her that was the worst advice possible and she should carry on to stop the engorgement. I know it was horribly difficult for her, though.

LAF GrinGrinGrinGrin So pleased for you. Sending sticky vibes to the giant bean. And it would be nice to think someone did get a pregnancy glow - I just got fat and spotty?

digital fingers crossed here for you, too. It can and will happen.

Lunatic hope you?re feeling better, the Ads are kicking in and the migraines are kept at bay.

Much love to all and waves if I missed anyone.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 18/08/2011 16:56

What a day...

Movements have been reduced the last couple of days and got nothing at all last night/this morning so called up and went in for monitoring. Had to be on the monitor for two bloody hours cuz the trace kept knocking off. Suffice to say baby started kicking as soon as the ecg went ok so all ok.

But am now under consultant care not MW as they decided I needed a scan due to being large. Baby is measuring at 37weeks all over on the head, leg and tummy measurements which is actually off the scale on the centile chart. Baby is also breech, legs extended, bum down, head to side. I have too much fluid too. Normal level is allowed up to 20. I have 23.9. Apparently I'm high risk for premature water breakage and because he is breech that means high risk for cord prolapse. I don't even know what that is? They want me back for rescan in 2 weeks time. Bloods also taken to check for infections in fluid.

So was in hopsital from 11 til 4. Am knackered and starving and now going to google when I shouldn't. Worried and stressed is the diagnosis for the day!

Hope everyone is ok.

mumatron · 18/08/2011 19:44

Step away from google! It is not your friend. The fluid does sound high, at 34wks mine were just over 8, right at the lowest end of normal iirc.

Sounds like you've had a crappy day, put your feet up now and relax as much as possible

MummyAbroad · 18/08/2011 21:03

Hi coconuts sorry you are going through it, sounds quite tough to deal with mentally! Let me save you googling, cord prolapse is when the cord gets squashed down near the cervix and or wrapped around baby's neck. The thing to know is (for all women, not just those with lots of fluid) IF YOUR WATER BREAKS SUDDENLY, SIT/LIE DOWN.

Think about pulling a plug out of a sink, when the water goes everything rushes towards the plug hole, smallest lightest things get there first. For an ideal birth you want the water to exit, then the babies head to connect with the exit hole and the cord to be safely tucked out of the way behind it. This is more likely to happen if you are lying down. If you are standing up, gravity and a big sudden gush of water can make the cord slip down first and then get stuck between the babies head and the cervix (and get squished which will stress baby).

Hope none of that has made you more scared, I just wanted to point out that there is something you can do to help things if waters go early. Just sit down wherever you are, even if its in the middle of the street!

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stillfrazzled · 18/08/2011 21:27

Jesus Coconuts, what a day - I'm so glad baby and you are OK but must have been terrifying.

Positives, I suppose, are at least you're clued up and the hospital seems to be on the ball, though. And since LO views the machines as target practice he's clearly got a bit about him already Grin.

One thing I learned from my experience - if you're worried, go in and ask to be checked over. No decent nurse or midwife will refuse you (when my waters went with F, the doctor grandly told me to come back in five days, and the attending midwife did a catsbum face and once he was out of the room, told us to come back whenever we were worried). Better to be a nuisance than to worry. And for us it was a good decision.

I have forgotten that I knew about cord prolapses, I was given the same advice. It is bloody scary, my heart goes out to you. But I wandered around quite happily for a couple of days and would have done so for several more had F not been found to be so bloody tiny. And that's one problem we know you don't have Smile.

digitalgirl · 18/08/2011 21:39

coconuts how worrying for you. Glad little one is ok though.

stillfrazzled · 18/08/2011 21:49

Oh, and far less worrying than coconuts' day but my boss has worked out that our nice new working arrangement is (a) 90 minutes short per week and (b) HR need to agree to it, including the working on the train thing.

I am really worried. can't face the huge rush of relief turning out to be a mirage.

LAF77 · 18/08/2011 21:57

Oh coconuts what a scary day! To me, getting checked up every 2 weeks after that info, doesn't seem enough. I agree with frazzled be a nuisance if you are worried.

Thinking of you....

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 19/08/2011 10:21

Thanks for the info and advice ladies. Spoke to an old school friend who is a MW at my labour ward and she has reassured me that the fluid levels aren't majorly over. Normal is allowed up to 20. High is 24 and problems usually occur at 28-30+ so I'm kind of in the high end of ok.

Once the scan in a fortnight confirms which way the fluid is going, up or down, then she thinks it'll be weekly monitoring. And after some research through the archives, if he doesn't turn then it'll be a planned CS. Which if I'm honest I think I'll prefer. I'll be more confident that it's the safer way out for him and I'll have a definite date to work towards.

Hospital seem very on the ball actually and am confident in the care I have received so far :) Trying not to worry :)

Oh and he's definitely still a boy Grin

frazzled hope they sort your work situation out asap for you, the waiting around for a decision is horrible.

luckyfor2 · 19/08/2011 12:15

coconuts so sorry you're having all this extra worry. Its good that the hospital is on the ball though and brilliant that you've got a mw/friend at the hospital in the know. I totally agree with the others if you're worried at any time be a nuisance and keep pressing them. In the meantime try and keep your feet up and relax if at all possible. Big hugs x

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 19/08/2011 15:30

So those of you who know a bit more about things than me, should I be resting? I have so much to do, can I just carry on as normal? The midwives at the hospital never really made much of it but since asking on MN, researching it all a bit all I have read is rest, rest, rest.

I've got food shopping to do and my CMW appt monday that is a 35-40 min walk away.

So I'm just a bit confused. I can easily put my feet up at home and concentrate on my kicks as they advised me but I still have stuff that I need to do so should I just carry on but take it steady?

MummyAbroad · 19/08/2011 18:52

Hi coconuts IMO you are going to have to downscale your activity level at some point anyway, why not use this as an excuse and start resting now? It certainly won't hurt. I understand that feeling of wanting to get everything done and organised (I am going through the exact same thing) but you can get things done, you just need to use different strategies i.e. palm stuff off on other people!! Grin What will be your plan for shopping during due date week/when baby comes? Can you just bring everything forward and declare that you need help earlier than expected? I would definitely palm the food shopping off on someone else and concentrate your energies on more vital (and fun Grin) stuff. What about internet shopping? I know its a bit pricier but if its only for a couple of months and you bulk buy...

Can you take a bus/taxi to the CMW appointment? Again, saving energy where you can will help you be able to do the stuff that you really want to do.

I think probably only your doctors/midwives can advise if actual bed rest is necessary - but it is ALWAYS a good idea to start conserving energy towards the end and take it easier than you normally would if not pregnant. That is what maternity leave was invented for. Did you know that it was started when someone notices that women who didnt work in their last months of pregnancy were less likely to have premature babies? So my vote is, Yes, rest! and enjoy Smile

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 19/08/2011 19:34

Well before even looking at your reply mummy, I had ordered a big Sainsburys order online. It will make life easier I suppose even though I hate buying everything from one shop. I love a bargain, me!

I wasn't planning on downscaling my activities at all if I'm honest. I walk alot, everywhere in fact and I love nothing more than going out for a stroll. Suppose I can still do that but with regular stops and not lugging heavy bags.

Had a bit of a mood with DH tonight as he's come home from work in a mood and I asked him to put the duvet cover on and he kicked up a fuss. Sometimes I want to stab him with a rusty fork.

I want to clean all my windows on the inside and where I would usually do them all in one day, I'll just do one a day, in the next week before I get even bigger.

I'll still walk to my appt Monday as I will have done nothing all weekend and see what she says then. It'll be much easier to talk to her and not be rushed in and out. And DH will be with me so if she says rest alot then he will hear it from the horses mouth and have to get his arse in gear. Smetimes I think he thinks I make it all up Hmm Fucking man men.

Excuse my cursing.

Hope you are ok anyway? xx

LunaticFringe · 19/08/2011 22:02

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Julezboo · 21/08/2011 22:28

Evening ladies.

coconuts I have messaged you! Oliver woke up so was in a rish, but hes settled again!

Glittery Ouch, sounds painful! I hope it gets better quickly!

LAF cngratulations again! O is another one who moved dates, my original date was 26th eb, my actuall EDD after 14 week scan was 14th feb! Turns out he ignored them anyway and came when he wanted! Hope you are not feeling too sick :)

mumatron your MIL sounds as mad as mine! How was London? Did the DC's enjoy?

Frazzled no advice RE work, just sympathies! Good news on sleep front too! O still gets up twice in the night!

digi and mummabroad hope things are well?

Same old, same old my end! Sticking to same foods we know are safe with oliver. He is teething at the mo and we have had a pretty bad few days tbh, just grateful it happened whilst DH had his week off else i would have cracked up!! He seems to be growing up way too fast! today he has learnt to clap hands and get from all fours (crawling position) to sitting up! He couldnt even sit up last week! Cant believe he is 7 months old now!

oh.. there he goes again, i best run n give him nurofen xxx

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 22/08/2011 18:37

Hi all, quick update from me.

julez thanks for your advice earlier :) Hope O's teething isn't too awful for you all, he sounds like he's coming on in leaps and bounds :)

lunatic If I am eating curry at 40+5 I think I'll actually cry Grin Glad L has put on a bit more weight, and I can't believe he's trying to walk already!

Saw CMW today (not my usual one who I love but one just as nice) and she has told me what to do should SROM happen, told me what to look out for in the way of tightenings and said that there's no need to rest as such, but to take it steady and use my initiative. Baby was oblique while she was having a feel and then moved round completely after she'd finished so still obviously plenty of room for him to change position. She believes that there is definitely alot more fluid than baby as she struggled to feel baby through the fluid. Measuring at 38weeks on the fundal height Shock and all ok otherwise. So just carry on as I see fit and wait it out for my next appt on 1st for my next scan.

I walked all the way to the appt and to MILs (round the corner) and then to the shops, round the shops, had a lovely ice cream and visit to the ducks with DD and DH (his first day off work in three weeks) and I took it nice and steady and feel a bit better for it actually :) We got the bus back and stopped off for chips on the way home.

Lovely day all in all, but day at home tomorrow for a rest :)

mumatron · 22/08/2011 21:17

quick catch up from me as i am shattered tonight.

coconuts glad your feeling ok, no advice but just take care of yourself please!

julez how's the whining? E has been unusually quiet today, doubt it will last much longer. can't imagine the problems these food issues are causing you! still, O has grown very well considering his difficulties with food. he's about the same size as E i think. how long until iphone day??

lf well done L's weight gain.

nothing much to report here, very busy weekend for me. Night out with the girls friday, much recovering for the rest of the weekend and a day trip to london yesterday has left me exhausted!

will try harder to keep up

scouts honour (or something like that)

digitalgirl · 22/08/2011 21:48

Glad cmw put your mind at ease coconuts

Lovely to hear how all your little ones are coming along. 7 months already julez!

6 weeks today, I think the last two weeks have sort of chugged along. I have a short but very busy week at work this week, then it's DS's 3rd birthday party on the bank holiday Monday. Then another short work week then a big weddings weekend. So hopefully the next two weeks will fly by in a whirlwind of social engagements.

I didn't hear back from St Mary's re the TEG. So I'm guessing that it was fine. I'll prob chase tomorrow afternoon, if I'm not completely snowed under.

milkyways · 23/08/2011 19:24

Hi everyone! Hope you don't mind me barging in!

I think some of you may remember me from the Recurrent Buns thread, and the freak out room thread. I joined back in January after suffering from my fourth consecutive miscarriage. I must say, I learnt so much from the thread from you, about pushing for tests and looking at different causes for my miscarriages, not just the ones the doctors had tested. I was finally diagnosed with a vitamin D deficiency, for which I was treated in May. I'm also currently going through counselling to help me deal with the losses I suffered.

Just thought I'd pop in and tell you ladies the good news that I'm in my 20th week, and had my scan yesterday. My little baby boy is healthy and very active. I'm due in January and have allowed myself to get a little excited by the prospects of having a baby in the new year. Hopefully from here onwards, it will be plain sailing and I don't have any other worries to deal with - although I know that will be impossible given my history!!

Hope you're all doing well with your little babies and pregnancies- lunatic I think you had your baby the week or week after I joined, and I remember thinking that there is still hope for me!

Waves at coconuts! Thanks for pointing me here last week!

mumatron · 23/08/2011 19:38

Congrats milkyway. Glad things are finally working out for you.

JugglingMama · 23/08/2011 21:18

hey well done milkyway! many congrats, try hang in there..I too am a bit of an observer on here and the previous thread. Lovely to see everyone getting on so well. Like you I had 4 m/cs, tests, nothing..was about to give up, one last (am 41) try has resulted in this pgcy, am now 38 weeks and counting down to the arrival of this little boy or girl. Feeling v blessed and wishing everyone on here hope and good wishes. x

mumatron · 23/08/2011 21:41

That's lovely to hear juggling. Keep us updated on the new arrival.