Recurrent Buns Graduates - Pregnancy and Beyond

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Thought it was about time we had a new home for all those lovely ladies who used to frequent the original Recurrent Buns thread, or anyone else who has been through the hideous journey of miscarriage, recurrent miscarriage, infertility, testing etc. and now finds themselves either pregnant and in need of hand-holding (or better yet) with their long-awaited bundle(s) of joy.

I know it perhaps seems a little inappropriate to start a thread in the miscarriage topic but it still seems the most relevant spot for those of us who haven't yet completed the journey - and nowhere else really seemed right or fair to everyone.

I do hope you'll come along and say hello. I do miss you all!

laf congratulations! I know it's early days but things are looking good. I wouldn't worry too much about the late start to aspirin. I didn't start my claxane injections until 6-7 weeks. I'll keep everything crossed for an uneventful and dull 8 months for you.

glittery glad to hear all is well. Reading your post makes me feel very broody nostalgic. I miss those early days.

lf YAY for that paramedic. Also at you getting dd1's uniform. I'll be running around like a loon the first week of sept trying to sort it.

Eliza is better, she seems to be going through a bit development burst atm. She's desperate to get mobile but doesn't quite have the skills yet. I'm being woken a few times most nights and finding her in some unbelievable positions in her cot. Lord knows how she does it.

I had a few days where I was very scared for myself. Started to get some very frightening thoughts, kept waking up to check the dc as I was convinced something bad was going to happen. I seem to have calmed down a bit now.

I'm off to a wedding on friday and am having a mare of a time finding something to wear! Never found it hard to spend money before

vroom vroom ladies! Just had my first driving lesson and loved it! I am going to try and book a test date tomorrow but I have heard there is a three month waiting list, which will put me yes, slap bang on my due date . So please cross your fingers for me that I get an earlier date.

LAF congratulations from me too! Also sending along my sympathies too, I found all the worry of the first trimester so horrible, its such a rough thing to go through. LF talks lots of sense though, I hope you feel a bit reassured by the good measurements and what she said about the aspirin.

coconuts I am getting those "are you due?" questions too and I have three months to go I like to think it is because I am small framed and therefore it makes my bump seem bigger than it really is I love LF's suggestion to lie and demand extra assistance

Glittery I love hearing that feeding is so much easier second time around. I am so hoping that will be the case for me too. Thanks for the reassurance about the placenta too, I know there is every chance (well 75% actually) that things will turn out routine and fine, its just so much harder to really believe it when you have been on the wrong end of the statistics before.

mumatron ooh wedding outfit shopping, I am jealous, love doing stuff like that.

LF for someone who is very sleepy sounds like you have done a great job on getting organised with the uniform! hope the GP can help though, no point suffering if you dont have to.

Off topic but mummyA I failed my 2nd driving test by driving off with the handbrake on . Glad your enjoying the lessons.

Thank you all for your comfort in my madness. Talking to lunatic definitely helped. I spoke to St. Mary's today too and the nurse told me not to beat myself up for not getting the test done a week earlier. If things have started off well, I shouldn't worry (ha ha). I've decided that I'm going to book a private scan next week if there isn't any bleeding over the weekend.

I'm kinda pleased that this may be the answer as to why I've had RMC. I never could accept the fact that it is total random bad luck.

You are right mummy and coconuts the pg has already felt like an eternity and I'll be 7 weeks on Monday!

I'm glad to hear that you started your clexane between 6-7 weeks mumatron and you have your DD. So maybe there can be a happy ending for me too. Apparently, women who have this condition and get treatment, go from a 30% success rate to an 85% success rate. I hope that this time I'm in the "good" statistics camp.

I feel more optimistic, in spite of everything. I can't tell you why, but I just do. Maybe because I am being closely monitored, I'm not a total stress case.

Thinking of you with your DD, glittery I hope that the house is back to a semi normal state after the home birth and your DS has been able to put it behind him too.

Way to go mummy on starting lessons in near enough your third trimester. You area brave lady! I had to learn how to drive in the US first and in the UK second. The second test in the UK was worse because I knew how to drive and had loads of bad habits that I needed to erase, plus the test is very strict. It was very frustrating, but I'm pleased I can drive over here.

Have a good weekend everyone!

laf speaking to lf is always a good thing. She speaks mucho sense.

I continue to have everything crossed for you. X

laf speaking to lf is always a good thing. She speaks mucho sense.

I continue to have everything crossed for you. X

Hello ladies - it's been a while since I've lurked in the mc threads so have just noticed that you've set up a grads thread.

glittery huge congratulations on the birth of your little girl! Amazing birth story. So pleased it's all going well for you.

LAF congratulations on your positive scan news. Very best of luck that the good news continues.

Marking my place here as I did a positive pregnancy test this morning. Am remarkably underwhelmed by it as you probably understand - but enjoying the pre-mentalling stage while it lasts. This was my second cycle of trying on the prednisolone.

Yay digi I've been thinking about you lately, maybe it's our turn now to be happy! I'm hanging out on the conception board the most these days in the freak out room as you can imagine!

I think that the disastrous traffic around Reigate with the closure of the M25 has pushed me into the arms of ESH. It's less than 2 miles from my house vs. 10 miles to Epsom or St. Heliers. Heaven help any women in the area who are trying to get to the hospital today.

welcome digi!! I already said my congratulations on the other thread, but worth saying again - I am really really for you.xxx

congrats on the bfp digi

rather tired still hungover tonight so will catch up properly tomorrow.

wedding was fab btw. i cried like a baby

Bit quiet here ladies, hope you are all ok?

digi Congrats to you :) :) Great news :)

where are you all?

Evening all. Have just seen that it?s nearly six days since I posted and am quietly horrified at the speed at which time?s flying by.

Have had a fairly eventful few days. Mice confirmed when DH saw one of the little bastards scuttling across the living room on Friday night. We later found out that it had spent the night in F?s little baby nest. Pausing on the way to take a dump on his little rocking chair.

That made it personal, TBH. Am grimly amused to note all my lentil-weavery principles about humane traps and whatnot turn into Die Now Mousey Fucker the second I find a turd near anything belonging to my baby?

Mouse Man has been, laid poison and will be back on Friday. We shall see.

Spent two nights at my folks, which was pretty awkward, TBH. Dad and I haven?t really spoken much at all, partly through lack of opportunity and partly because I feel like I?ve missed the boat a bit. Suspect it is now going to be a few months of slight strain until it?s properly smoothed over. But if he ever tries it again I will rip ?im a new one.

Also have new neighbours. Mum, teen daughter, two teen sons, one young son. In a three bed house. Eeeek. They do seem nice but I fear the weekends.

Have been feeling a bit low lately, TBH - seems like the ?few months on? curse has got me, too. Is partly going back to work, which now obsesses me. I know I don?t nec have to go (although we?d be pretty stretched), I know I love my job, I know it worked just fine with DS1... But my heart?s breaking at the thought.

Which in turn makes me feel like an awful mother to DS1. I don?t think I love F more, but he?s smaller and cuter and simpler (food in one end, keep other end clean, lots of cuddles). And tinier and more vulnerable and we had that awful start, and I am, at the moment, technically his slave and we haven?t been apart for more than three hours since he came home. But it still worries me. Has anyone else on their second (or more) had this?

OK, enough self-indulgent mithering.

Digi, belated congratulations!

Glittery really glad you?re recovering well (still horrified at the clear-up, but clever you to have such a useful sister ). Hope the three-day hormone crash has continued to stay away.

And rats! Eeeeek. Quite amused at the idea that they turned out to be camera-shy., I must keep that idea in reserve.

How?s DS? Hadn?t thought about the trauma to him, poor little lad, but I?m positive that a combination of cute baby sister, presents and your explaining everything to him will work out just fine in the end. FWIW, I worried about DS1 after F was born, and he did act up at home and was a bit quiet at nursery for a while, but as far as he knew and knows, babies turn up and stay at hospital in glass boxes until they?re big enough to come home. Am pretty sure your DS will just file it away as ?it?s messy and noisy when babies arrive?, or something.

Coconuts how you feeling now? Hope you haven?t had any more weather/clothing mishaps?

MummyA go you for learning to drive! My mum passed when she was approx eight months with my sister. It was her second attempt, and she reckoned she got through because the examiner was too nervous to ask her to make an emergency stop . It took me till my eighth attempt, so you can be as bad as you like, I will still be worse!

Lunatic hope you?re feeling better and less sleepy now. And massively touched by your lovely paramedic. It?s a lovely thing to know people remember you and are thinking of you.

Julez hope you?re lurking and OK. The nappies arrived and are fab, BTW - thank you!

LAF I am crossing EVERYTHING that this is the sticky one for you. The signs are all good, you?re in the right place, you?re on the right treatment? I think the 85% stat is as good as it gets, even for women who?ve never mc?d. When is your scan?

mumatron Glad you had a good time at the wedding. How did you do with the heels? I?ve worn nothing but Uggs, flat boots, sneakers and Birkis since the start of the year. Tried on a pair of proper shoes the other day and was absolutely horrified by how uncomfortable they were!

Hope the dark thoughts are passing, too. Seriously, is it some kind of hormone thing that kicks in a few months after birth? Or maybe the long-term effects of sleep deprivation?

On which note, am going to wind this epic up and head to bed. Hope you?re all safe, wherever you are. x

sf of course you dont love F more. you just love him in a different way. For me, I have an overwhelming urge to protect E and I'm certain it's because of what i went through to have her. I love all of my dc, but you'll notice i talk mostly about E, then dd1 and poor ds hardly gets a mention! it's because, like you say, it's so much simpler when they are small. and they need you and pretty much only you in the begining.

it's only now at 7 months, that i'm begining to relax about other people taking E out of the house.

I remember feeling the same after having dd2. ds was 3 and he suddenly seemed so grown up :(

ffs, this parenting malarkey is hard!

oh, and please dont ever mention heels again.

high heels are the work of the devil!

Sorry I haven't been on since my last post, I feel abit of a fraud posting on this thread because I don't feel like a graduate just yet, but then I'm not sure I will until baby comes (taking deep breath and praying this will one day happen). I've been trying to read to keep up but the time seems to be going by quite quickly. Does/did anyone wake up at ridiculous times in the night. I've been awake since 4.00 and got up at 5.00 this morning and the other day I didn't get to sleep until 3.00. I think I remember waking up at strange hours with DD2 but this is ridiculous!

Had my 20 week scan last week (I'm 22weeks tomorrow) and everything is fine. We found out that we're having a little boy which was a complete shock especially as I was told at just 18 weeks at my last weekly clinic scan that the sonographer/consultant thought that it was a girl! I even bought a beautiful little pink babygrow on holiday in cornwall. Not that any of that matters, we are very pleased that the baby is healthy and don't care either way. It did scare me slightly as our last baby that we lost at 15 weeks was a boy and I was convinced that I couldn't carry boys and therefore that the baby girl I was carrying would be fine. I know this is complete rubbish and I have been told so by my consultant but its how I was coping in my head (irrational behaviour!) My girls know now and they are very excited, they have told grandparents and a few people that we have seen but I'm trying to see people bit by bit. I've been hidden for so long that its hard to just get out there and be bold. Plus I'm still terrified but realise that if I'm going to get my life back I'm going to have to move on a little.

Congratulations to Digi . Fingers tightly crossed for you. Do you have a scan date yet?

LAF hope everything is okay. Did you book a private scan? Its good that you had the tests and you found out that you needed to take the aspirin. Sounds like you're in very good hands.

Glittery I'm amazed at how mentally sane you seemed so soon after your manic home birth and thumbs up to your sister and husband for cleaning up afterwards. I would never opt for a home birth and definitely like the security of medical attention/treatment on hand but your midwife seemed to have it all in hand even though it was unplanned and your lovely daughter got here safely which is the main thing. Hope you're getting enough rest and your little boy is coping with all the change.

Coconuts I can't believe you're 32 weeks. Did you find out the sex. I can't remember if you said? Your soaked cling film maxi dress sounds ever so fetching.

Sounds like you had a good wedding do mumatron. Did you get a nice outfit in the end. I don't remember the last time I had a drink, could definitely do with a good night out when all this is over.

MummyA Good for you having driving lessons. Hope you can get an earlier test date ? three months seems like a long time to wait.

SF Argh about the mice. Get them in a trap! We had one in the kitchen once and it scared me to death, makes me itch just thinking about it!

I've not managed to read the thread from the beginning so missing some of the background! But HI to everyone. Now I feel a little more settled it would be nice to keep up with the thread properly.

Hey Ladies,

On DH's laptop. Iphone will be in my hand on the 31st, so I shall be around a lot more then.

LAF and DIGI - congratulations!!!!

mumatron Hope little lady is better, is she teething?

frazzled glad you like nappies! How is F doing? Has he hit the sleep regression that happens at this stage yet?

glittery Congratultions again!! You sound so wonderfully happy and I am excited to see a picture (and more so to see if it makes me broody)

To put it bluntly, life is poo at the mo, today has been spent mostly in tears with exhaustion and frustration. As most of you know O has CMPI and refluz. He's on neocate and gaviscon, omeprazole and ranitidine made him sicker! thankfully the sickness stopped straight away when he went onto neocate 3 weeks ago.

But the delight that is weaning, is quite honestly turning into my worse nightmare. He is having reactions to all sorts of things and as he has more reactions, im getting scared to feed him! Bread makes him scream for hours on end, porridge does too seemingly, tomato based foods are out, spag bol made him puke violently, whilst organix tomato snax gave him a hideous rash (think menningtitis type rash)

Last night he was up at 1, 2, 4 and 6, crying, fussing, screaming. Refusing milk today. The past two nights I have resorted to nurofen. Yesterday he screamed blood curdling screams from 10pm - midnight, then he started again at 4am. He is such a happy little baby when he is fine and we are sticking to his usual purrees (chicken, sweet pot and brocoli or butternut squash, chicken and avacado) but anything else seems to unsettle him. I am convincing myself hes gonnna be allergic to all kinds. Its complicated to feed him as it is, each bottle is a battle because he hates the milk. He will only drink an oz of water at a time so I have to force feed my baby effectively :(

In other happy news, hes on the move! Quite cute, and hes reaching out for me now with his arms. He has the cutest smile...

My yummy Ollie

Oh Julez your little O is beautiful and has a gorgeous smile. It is so cute when they start moving about and responding more to things.

It sounds like you're having a real nightmare with all the weaning and feeding. I'm sorry I have no advice on how to go about getting him to eat other foods and what should/shouldn't effect him. My DD2 hated milk and pretty much stopped drinking it at 4 months but she loved her food and didn't have a problem with anything so I gave her lots of yoghurts and milky things like porridge to compensate. I assume you've had help from your health visitor etc, not like they can be there to help in the night when things get impossible. Has he been tested for other allergies other than milk? Is he sleeping in the day at all? If you could get a little sleep it might help abit. Sorry I can't help, I do really feel for you.

LAF can I ask how long it took you to get an appt at St Mary's following your BFP? I left a message with them on Monday and another today trying to book in for a repeat TEG but haven't heard anything back. Not sure whether to up the harrassment program - don't really want to as every time I leave a message I have to say I'm pregnant which I don't really like doing.

Hi digital I called them as soon as I had BFP which was actually before my period was due. I was seen at 6+2 for my first scan, so they saw me in about 2.5 weeks. As I said, I was kicking myself for not getting the tests sooner when I went in to collect the bits for the PROMISE trial. They did tell me that I could get the blood tests done then. I couldn't wait around at the hospital as I had to get back for a conference call. I didn't realise that you had been at St. Mary's already. I take it everything came back clear.

As for me, lucky I'm not having a private scan this week. I'm 7+2 today. The Babybond clinic in my area wasn't running this week. I could have gone further afield for a scan, but I've taken several mornings/afternoons off already for appointments and I didn't want to make a trek further afield to do it. I can't bear the thought of going to the local EPU that has humiliated me at my most vulnerable times. It is hard. I want to have a scan, but I realise that I have to cope with not having weekly (or daily!) scans. I've made it further than baby 1 and baby 2 now. So in many ways, that is positive. But I think about baby 3 who clung on until 9+3 when things weren't right and wonder what is going on inside me.

I also went to pick up the paperwork for the Nuchal test and made my first midwife appointment against my better judgement. I have had 3 of those stupid packs and I feel like an idiot for picking up the 4th, like it is some sort of jinx. However, work is asking me to go out on a trip in early September and I need to know if the appointment would be during this time before I can commit to going. I didn't want to make a MW appointment either, but the receptionist insisted.

I'm desperate to know that everything is OK, but equally, I'm committed to not acknowledging that I'm pregnant. Unless I end up with a real baby, I'm can't be pregnant in my mind. Symptoms seem to come and go. Yesterday I felt worse than I did today. My boobs are covered in a network of blue veins, so I guess that's good.

frazzled I'd go mental at the mouse. No mercy on such vermin that comes near F!

julez I'm so sorry that things have been difficult with Ollie's feeding. It must be so hard as he can't tell you what is wrong. Plus, you are getting little rest, so it must be draining.

Thinking of you glittery mummy and coconuts

btw digital they did seem to be a bit understaffed at St. Mary's probably due to August holidays and maybe some staff struggling to get in with the disruption in London due to the vandals. I rang to ask for more details about TEG, and they didn't get back to me for 48 hours. You could probably turn up on the days that they run clinics for RMC and just get the bloods taken. I don't know if you need an appointment for it, but it is good to have confirmation before going.

LAF its great that you are feeling the symptoms (sorry but true) and they will come and go as I'm sure you already know so things are definately looking good. I completely understand about the jinxing mind game. I'm still scared to do certain things because I think I will jinx this but the things I have done up to now have turned out okay so I'm trying to stay positive. I've even seen a midwife which I was terrified about and it was still okay. One step at a time, this little one is going to be just fine LAF.