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Recurrent Buns - MC Testing and Beyond... Part 4...!!!

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Julezboo · 01/02/2011 13:12

Gosh we can chat ladies!!!

Part one HERE

Part two HERE

Part three HERE

List

STARTING TESTING

LAF77 , Age 33, MC1 (7 weeks Apr 10) MC2 (5 weeks Sept 10) MC3 (9 weeks Dec 10). All have been natural mcs and number 1 and 3 were embryonic for sure. No children, no RMC appt, no diagnosis and not TTC.
PANDA 3MMC, no.1 (embryonic loss - empty sac) 7weeks, no.2 at 12 weeks, no.3 at 8 weeks. Awaiting raft of tests for recurrent MC
CLAIREDELOON Age 38 1st mmc, development stopped approx 5 weeks (2007), 2nd mmc development stopped at approx 6 weeks (2009), 3rd mc development stopped at 9 weeks after seeing hb at 8+3 (2010). Bicornate uterus, starting testing Feb 2011.
NOTSOBARRENBROOK Age 35. 1st mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2009), 2nd mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2010), 3rd mmc @ 11 weeks, development stopped at 6 weeks 3 days (March 2010), 4th mmc @ 5 weeks (August 2010). Possible adenomyosis, awaiting hsg and results of testing from St Mary's.
MILKYWAY2007 Age 27 - DD age 3. 1st MC Oct
2009, 6 weeks. 2nd MMC March 2010, 11 weeks (baby passed away at 7 weeks). 3rd MC July 2010, 6 weeks. 4th MMC 24 Jan 2011, 9 weeks - no amniotic sac, baby measured 7weeks 4 days, no HB, had seen a healthy HB at 7 weeks. Blood clotting, hormone, genetic karyotype and shape and health of uterus checked and all clear - although high prolactin level found. Waiting for appointment at RMC with consultant, and wanting to be referred to St Mary's.
LUCKYFOR2 Age 32 - DD age 5. DD age 3. 1st MC May 2010 found at 12 week scan passed away at 9 weeks. 2nd MC September 2010 natural at 8 weeks. 3nd MC January 2011 at 16 weeks, saw hb at 13 but no hb at 15.5. Bloods taken from me and DH at hospital at last MC and awaiting results on baby from PM.
IGGI2011 - Age 40, 3 year old DS. 3 MC last year, at 6, 8 and 8 weeks. Last two had hb detected. Having bloods taken by obs soon.

UNDERGOING TREATMENT

CRYSTAL5 Age 38 - DS age 4. 6 m/c 1 at 11 weeks, 5 at 5/6 weeks. Ok blood tests, under Endocrinologist for Hypothyroid
BANANA87 Age 30- 1mmc@7 weeks, DD (2), 1 mmc 6 weeks, 1 mc 7 weeks, currently waiting one more cycle before TTC. Going to try aspirin and progesterone as per consultant. Clotting bloods normal.

TTC

MUMMYABROAD Age 35, 1DS (2.9), 1MMC Mar 2010 (@14weeks) Ashermans diagnosis and treatment Nov 2010, Started TTC Jan 2011 Cycle 1
DIGITALGIRL Age 32 - DS 2.4 - 3MCs since ttc#2. MC1 5wks. MC2 6-7wks. MC3 7-8wks. Awaiting clotting & karyotyping results, under consultant care for rmc. Mild pcos. Currently TTC.
LOVEMYSLEEP Age 39, 1 mmc, dd born(now 5), 2nd mc (9wks, 2days), 3rd mc (9wks, 3days) and 4th mc at 5 wks. All tests on NHS came back clear. Currently undergoing treatment with Dr.Shehata for very high natural killer cells

PREGNANT

LUNATIC dd1(4) 2 mmc (8 wks) dd2 stillborn (32+5), clotting problem, pg #5 section booked for 9th Feb @ 35wks. On 150mg aspirin daily.
GLITTERYBITS 1 anembryonic MC (12 weeks), unexplained infertility, 1 round of clomid, currently pg and terrified!
JUSTMEE Age 21, MC1 (7 weeks), MC2 (6weeks), MC3 (5weeks) currently pregnant with 4th pregnancy using clexane injecting 20mg a day
LADYBEE 37, MC1 (5wks), DS (2), MC2 blighted ovum discovered @ 8 wk scan, MC3 natural @ 9 wks following hb seen at 7 1/2 wk. PCOS previously diagnosed, Factor V Leiden heterozygote discovered in recent testing. Treatment with aspirin (from BFP) + clexane started at 6 weeks.
LOVELYBUNCHOFCOCONUTS Age 23, 1 MC (13 weeks), 1 MMC (10 weeks - growth stopped at 7), 1DD born 2008, PCOS diagnosis, bi-cornuate uterus.
HAIRYFAIRYLIGHTS
HAIRYCLAREYFAIRY

GRADUATES WITH BABIES!!

STILLFRAZZLED Age 35, DS1 (3.6yo), 1 mc @ 5 weeks Jan 09, 2nd mc @ 9 weeks March 09, DS2 born @ 35+3 on 04/01/11 with Intra Uterine Growth Restriction and currently in Special Care Baby Unit.
MUMATRON Age 28 2 dc then 4mc, 3 @9weeks 1@5weeks, tests showed possible free protein s ishoo. dd2 born 06/01/2011, aspirin, claxane and high dose folic acid through pg.
JULEZBOO Age 29 1 mc @ 14 wks, DS1 (8yo) 4 mc @ 5/6 wks, DS2 (3) 2 mc @7 wks... DS3 (14/01/11 @35 wks) Dx with Factor V Leiden and Septate Uterus. Clexane and Aspirin throughout pregnancy and progesterone with DS3.

Will do a catch up post now...

OP posts:
iggi999 · 01/04/2011 12:46

On the bus just now heading to appointment at local RMC - got a phonecall this morning with a cancellation. My last NHS appt was quite upsetting (nothing wrong with me, take an aspirin, no steroids won't help with your immune problem) so think this might be more of the same. Don't think they'd like that I'm going to shehata either, might not tell.

LAF77 · 01/04/2011 13:16

hello everyone, we've got a monster thread here again, so I think we will be in need of a new one soon. Does anybody want to change their status in the list before we have a new thread? Mattsmama we don't have you listed on the pregnant section. Do you want to be added in?

I hope that you are OK glittery and you have stopped bleeding. I can imagine how frightening it would be.

Congratulations on getting the doppler for a great price coconuts hopefully it will work and it will put your mind at rest. As it isn't easy for you to go to a place that you can have a regular scan, it make sense that you should have one yourself!

Pure I understand your feelings. I withdrew from friends in person and on facebook because I couldn't cope with their pregnancies. I don't have any advice other than do what you need to. I'd rather be quiet and not say anything than make a big scene or say something I would regret later that could hurt a friendship. St Mary's has mentioned the progesterone trial, PROMISE in the paperwork that I received yesterday. I don't know if I will be included in it as well when I have my appointment, but I'm open to being part. As you say, empirical doses of aspirin, but not progesterone! The pamphlet says, " Low levels of progesterone hormone are frequently found in women whose pregnancies are miscarrying. However, low progesterone. levels in early pg reflect the fact that the pg has not implanted successfully in the womb lining, rather than because the developing placenta is not producing enough progesterone. to maintain the pg. This is an important point--low progesterone. is the effect, not the cause of the mc. This explains why giving progesterone. and/or HCG injections does not improve pg outcome. There is insufficient medical evidence on the effectiveness of progesterone. use in recurrent mc."

As you can tell, I've got my ppwk for St Mary's and I'm happy with that. I feel like I'm working on my problem, by having forms to fill in and information to study. Although I have to say, it is ridiculous how much paperwork has to be completed. All of this information is part of my medical records, but I've got to write it out, regardless.

Lots of love to all of the readers of this thread. Mother's day is going to be a hard one this year. I was a mother for almost half the year last year when I had my pregnancies, but no one thinks of me as a mother in RL. Next Saturday marks the first anniversary of my lost pregnancy. I think that maybe I've passed the worst of the emotions over the last few weeks, but I'm aware that there could be an emotional storm brewing.

STARTING TESTING
HAIRYLIGHTS, age 42, MC1 (Jun 10, very low HCG, suspected ectopic, methotrexate), MC 2 (Nov 22 2010, MMC,ERPC, no heart beat at ten weeks, fetus 8 week size), MC3 (MMC - Medical Management, Feb 13 2011, MMC at 7 week scan). Waiting to TTC
LAF77 , Age 33, MC1 (7 weeks Apr 10) MC2 (5 weeks Sept 10) MC3 (9 weeks Dec 10). All have been natural mcs and number 1 and 3 were embryonic . No children, First appointment with St. Mary's in April.
PANDA 3MMC, no.1 (embryonic loss - empty sac) 7weeks, no.2 at 12 weeks, no.3 at 8 weeks. Awaiting raft of tests for recurrent MC
CLAIREDELOON Age 38 1st mmc, development stopped approx 5 weeks (2007), 2nd mmc development stopped at approx 6 weeks (2009), 3rd mc development stopped at 9 weeks after seeing hb at 8+3 (2010). Bicornate uterus, starting testing Feb 2011.
NOTSOBARRENBROOK Age 35. 1st mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2009), 2nd mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2010), 3rd mmc @ 11 weeks, development stopped at 6 weeks 3 days (March 2010), 4th mmc @ 5 weeks (August 2010). Possible adenomyosis, awaiting hsg and results of testing from St Mary's.
MILKYWAY2007 Age 28 - DD age 3. 1st MC Oct 2009, 6 weeks. 2nd MMC March 2010, 11 weeks (baby passed away at 7 weeks). 3rd MC July 2010, 6 weeks. 4th MMC 24 Jan 2011, 9 weeks - no amniotic sac, baby measured 7weeks 4 days, no HB, had seen a healthy HB at 7 weeks. Blood clotting, hormone, genetic karyotype and shape and health of uterus checked and all clear. High dose folic acid prescribed.
LUCKYFOR2 Age 32 - DD age 5. DD age 3. 1st MC May 2010 found at 12 week scan passed away at 9 weeks. 2nd MC September 2010 natural at 8 weeks. 3nd MC January 2011 at 16 weeks, saw hb at 13 but no hb at 15.5. Bloods taken from me and DH at hospital at last MC and awaiting results on baby from PM.
IGGI999 - Age 40, 3 year old DS. 3 MC last year, at 6, 8 and 8 weeks. Last two had hb detected. NHS blood tests came back clear, except for presence of antinuclear antibodies. To take aspirin for this. Going to see Shehata in May as think steroids are needed.
CONFU3ED - Age 35 1st MC 1998 14 weeks. DD age 11. 2nd MC July 2009 5.5 weeks. ERPC Twice. No tests. 6 months Clomid 3rd MC January 2010. The foetus sent for testing - came back fine. Been referred to recurrent MC clinic at the hospital for tests, waiting for appointment. Was told I have PCOS through a scan but never diagnosed.
PUREEQUEEN Age 33, MC1 (7 weeks Jan 08) MC2 (6 weeks March 08), DS born (prem) 2009 - now 2 years old (took low dose aspirin for that pregnancy - self prescribed!) MC3 (9 weeks Oct 10). MC4 Jan 2011. First 2 natural mcs latter 2 mmc and had ERPCs. I have also just had the chromosome test back on MC4 placenta and she had a genetic abnormality. Also have endo and a septate uterus.

UNDERGOING TREATMENT
CRYSTAL5 Age 38 - DS age 4. 6 m/c 1 at 11 weeks, 5 at 5/6 weeks. Ok blood tests, under Endocrinologist for Hypothyroid
LADYBEE 37, MC1 (5wks), DS (2), MC2 blighted ovum discovered @ 8 wk scan, MC3 natural @ 9 wks following hb seen at 7 1/2 wk. PCOS previously diagnosed, Factor V Leiden heterozygote discovered in recent testing. Treatment with aspirin (from BFP) + clexane started at 6 weeks. MC4 MMC @ 8.1 wks (discovered @ 11 wk scan) following hb seen at 6+6 wks. Consultant suggests aspirin + clexane to start at 4 weeks, plus progesterone pessaries. Management of MC tbc.
DIGITALGIRL Age 32 - DS 2.7 - 4MCs since ttc#2. MC1 5wks. MC2 6-7wks. MC3 7-8wks. MC4 8 weeks. All natural, except MC4 managed with ERPC for karyotyping purposes. Hormone levels fine, but taking Metformin for mild PCOS. Clotting tests all normal. DH & my karyotyping normal. Awaiting results from ERPC karyotyping, plus test results for NK Cells, anti-nuclear anti-bodies and anti-thyroid antibodes. Will be under Dr Shehata's treatment program if high nk cells are found. Waiting to TTC.

PREGNANT
BANANA87 Age 30- 1mmc@7 weeks, DD (2), 1 mmc 6 weeks, 1 mc 7 weeks, Going to try aspirin and progesterone as per consultant. Clotting bloods normal.
MUMMYABROAD Age 36, 1DS (2.9), 1MMC Mar 2010 (@14weeks) Ashermans diagnosis and treatment Nov 2010, Started TTC Jan 2011 BFP on Cycle 2 EDD 4/11/11
GLITTERYBITS 1 anembryonic MC (12 weeks), unexplained infertility, 1 round of clomid, currently pg and terrified!
JUSTMEE Age 21, MC1 (7 weeks), MC2 (6weeks), MC3 (5weeks) currently pregnant with 4th pregnancy using clexane injecting 20mg a day
LOVELYBUNCHOFCOCONUTS Age 23, 1 MC (13 weeks), 1 MMC (10 weeks - growth stopped at 7), 1DD born 2008, PCOS diagnosis, bi-cornuate uterus.
LOVEMYSLEEP Age 39, 1 mmc, dd born(now 5), 2nd mc (9wks, 2days), 3rd mc (9wks, 3days) and 4th mc at 5 wks. All tests on NHS came back clear. Currently undergoing treatment with Dr.Shehata for very high natural killer cells - aspirin, progesterone, steroids, omezaprole and one intralipid infusion completed.

GRADUATES WITH BABIES!!
LUNATIC dd1(4) 2 mmc (8 wks) dd2 stillborn (32+5), clotting problem, pg #5 section booked for 9th Feb @ 35wks. On 150mg aspirin daily.
STILLFRAZZLED Age 35, DS1 (3.6yo), 1 mc @ 5 weeks Jan 09, 2nd mc @ 9 weeks March 09, DS2 born @ 35+3 on 04/01/11 with Intra Uterine Growth Restriction but currently home and doing well.
MUMATRON Age 28 2 dc then 4mc, 3 @9weeks 1@5weeks, tests showed possible free protein s ishoo. dd2 born 06/01/2011, aspirin, claxane and high dose folic acid through pg.
JULEZBOO Age 29 1 mc @ 14 wks, DS1 (8yo) 4 mc @ 5/6 wks, DS2 (3) 2 mc @7 wks... DS3 (14/01/11 @35 wks) Dx with Factor V Leiden and Septate Uterus. Clexane and Aspirin throughout pregnancy and progesterone with DS3.

pureequeen · 01/04/2011 14:49

Thanks LAF. Great news that you are in the system (I had to fill out all those long forms twice in a month - Tommys didn't send my file over the road to Guys - so annoying)

How do I update? My thingy should now read (now that I am older etc...). and I guess I am out of the testing category?

PUREEQUEEN Age 34, MC1 (7 weeks Jan 08) MC2 (6 weeks March 08), DS born (prem) 2009, MC3 (9 weeks Oct 10). MC4 Jan 2011. First 2 natural mcs latter 2 mmc/ERPCs. Chromosome test MC4 showed she had a genetic abnormality (cri du chat). Karotyping for me and DH fine but with "increase in length on satellite of short arm 13 and 15" (??) . Also have endo &septate uterus. Now TTC and will take aspirin and progesterone.

Havingkittens · 01/04/2011 15:22

Have resisted putting my details on 'til now for fear of being judged about my TOPs but decided to bite the bullet in time for the next thread.

STARTING TESTING
HAVINGKITTENS Age 41 - MMC1 Nov 07 8wks (discovered due to bleeding at 10.5wks) ERPC, TOP1 for TS21 Aug 08, TOP2 for TS21 Feb 09, TOP incomplete, ERPC performed, Genetic Counselling & tests confirmed no chromosome problems with us, "just bad luck ", MMC2 Feb 10 5.5wks (seen at 8wk scan, no bleeding), MMC3 May 10 (as MMC2), RMC testing at UCH, no cause found - empirical 75mg asprin & vit D + early & regular scans for next pregnancy, MMC4 No fetal pole seen at 6.5 wks, follow up scan 10 days later, told of MMC, then "Something" spotted so instructed to wait another week before they would allow ERPC, ERPC a week later, waiting for NK Cell test results from Dr Shehata on NHS, taking 75mg Asprin, Vit D, Pregnacare Plus (w/Omega 3), 5mg Folic Acid (been taking since 1st TOP to try & prevent TS21 or similar issues), awaiting follow up telephone consultation appointment.
HAIRYLIGHTS, age 42, MC1 (Jun 10, very low HCG, suspected ectopic, methotrexate), MC 2 (Nov 22 2010, MMC,ERPC, no heart beat at ten weeks, fetus 8 week size), MC3 (MMC - Medical Management, Feb 13 2011, MMC at 7 week scan). Waiting to TTC
LAF77 , Age 33, MC1 (7 weeks Apr 10) MC2 (5 weeks Sept 10) MC3 (9 weeks Dec 10). All have been natural mcs and number 1 and 3 were embryonic . No children, First appointment with St. Mary's in April.
PANDA 3MMC, no.1 (embryonic loss - empty sac) 7weeks, no.2 at 12 weeks, no.3 at 8 weeks. Awaiting raft of tests for recurrent MC
CLAIREDELOON Age 38 1st mmc, development stopped approx 5 weeks (2007), 2nd mmc development stopped at approx 6 weeks (2009), 3rd mc development stopped at 9 weeks after seeing hb at 8+3 (2010). Bicornate uterus, starting testing Feb 2011.
NOTSOBARRENBROOK Age 35. 1st mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2009), 2nd mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2010), 3rd mmc @ 11 weeks, development stopped at 6 weeks 3 days (March 2010), 4th mmc @ 5 weeks (August 2010). Possible adenomyosis, awaiting hsg and results of testing from St Mary's.
MILKYWAY2007 Age 28 - DD age 3. 1st MC Oct 2009, 6 weeks. 2nd MMC March 2010, 11 weeks (baby passed away at 7 weeks). 3rd MC July 2010, 6 weeks. 4th MMC 24 Jan 2011, 9 weeks - no amniotic sac, baby measured 7weeks 4 days, no HB, had seen a healthy HB at 7 weeks. Blood clotting, hormone, genetic karyotype and shape and health of uterus checked and all clear. High dose folic acid prescribed.
LUCKYFOR2 Age 32 - DD age 5. DD age 3. 1st MC May 2010 found at 12 week scan passed away at 9 weeks. 2nd MC September 2010 natural at 8 weeks. 3nd MC January 2011 at 16 weeks, saw hb at 13 but no hb at 15.5. Bloods taken from me and DH at hospital at last MC and awaiting results on baby from PM.
IGGI999 - Age 40, 3 year old DS. 3 MC last year, at 6, 8 and 8 weeks. Last two had hb detected. NHS blood tests came back clear, except for presence of antinuclear antibodies. To take aspirin for this. Going to see Shehata in May as think steroids are needed.
CONFU3ED - Age 35 1st MC 1998 14 weeks. DD age 11. 2nd MC July 2009 5.5 weeks. ERPC Twice. No tests. 6 months Clomid 3rd MC January 2010. The foetus sent for testing - came back fine. Been referred to recurrent MC clinic at the hospital for tests, waiting for appointment. Was told I have PCOS through a scan but never diagnosed.
PUREEQUEEN Age 33, MC1 (7 weeks Jan 08) MC2 (6 weeks March 08), DS born (prem) 2009 - now 2 years old (took low dose aspirin for that pregnancy - self prescribed!) MC3 (9 weeks Oct 10). MC4 Jan 2011. First 2 natural mcs latter 2 mmc and had ERPCs. I have also just had the chromosome test back on MC4 placenta and she had a genetic abnormality. Also have endo and a septate uterus.

UNDERGOING TREATMENT
CRYSTAL5 Age 38 - DS age 4. 6 m/c 1 at 11 weeks, 5 at 5/6 weeks. Ok blood tests, under Endocrinologist for Hypothyroid
LADYBEE 37, MC1 (5wks), DS (2), MC2 blighted ovum discovered @ 8 wk scan, MC3 natural @ 9 wks following hb seen at 7 1/2 wk. PCOS previously diagnosed, Factor V Leiden heterozygote discovered in recent testing. Treatment with aspirin (from BFP) + clexane started at 6 weeks. MC4 MMC @ 8.1 wks (discovered @ 11 wk scan) following hb seen at 6+6 wks. Consultant suggests aspirin + clexane to start at 4 weeks, plus progesterone pessaries. Management of MC tbc.
DIGITALGIRL Age 32 - DS 2.7 - 4MCs since ttc#2. MC1 5wks. MC2 6-7wks. MC3 7-8wks. MC4 8 weeks. All natural, except MC4 managed with ERPC for karyotyping purposes. Hormone levels fine, but taking Metformin for mild PCOS. Clotting tests all normal. DH & my karyotyping normal. Awaiting results from ERPC karyotyping, plus test results for NK Cells, anti-nuclear anti-bodies and anti-thyroid antibodes. Will be under Dr Shehata's treatment program if high nk cells are found. Waiting to TTC.

PREGNANT
BANANA87 Age 30- 1mmc@7 weeks, DD (2), 1 mmc 6 weeks, 1 mc 7 weeks, Going to try aspirin and progesterone as per consultant. Clotting bloods normal.
MUMMYABROAD Age 36, 1DS (2.9), 1MMC Mar 2010 (@14weeks) Ashermans diagnosis and treatment Nov 2010, Started TTC Jan 2011 BFP on Cycle 2 EDD 4/11/11
GLITTERYBITS 1 anembryonic MC (12 weeks), unexplained infertility, 1 round of clomid, currently pg and terrified!
JUSTMEE Age 21, MC1 (7 weeks), MC2 (6weeks), MC3 (5weeks) currently pregnant with 4th pregnancy using clexane injecting 20mg a day
LOVELYBUNCHOFCOCONUTS Age 23, 1 MC (13 weeks), 1 MMC (10 weeks - growth stopped at 7), 1DD born 2008, PCOS diagnosis, bi-cornuate uterus.
LOVEMYSLEEP Age 39, 1 mmc, dd born(now 5), 2nd mc (9wks, 2days), 3rd mc (9wks, 3days) and 4th mc at 5 wks. All tests on NHS came back clear. Currently undergoing treatment with Dr.Shehata for very high natural killer cells - aspirin, progesterone, steroids, omezaprole and one intralipid infusion completed.

GRADUATES WITH BABIES!!
LUNATIC dd1(4) 2 mmc (8 wks) dd2 stillborn (32+5), clotting problem, pg #5 section booked for 9th Feb @ 35wks. On 150mg aspirin daily.
STILLFRAZZLED Age 35, DS1 (3.6yo), 1 mc @ 5 weeks Jan 09, 2nd mc @ 9 weeks March 09, DS2 born @ 35+3 on 04/01/11 with Intra Uterine Growth Restriction but currently home and doing well.
MUMATRON Age 28 2 dc then 4mc, 3 @9weeks 1@5weeks, tests showed possible free protein s ishoo. dd2 born 06/01/2011, aspirin, claxane and high dose folic acid through pg.
JULEZBOO Age 29 1 mc @ 14 wks, DS1 (8yo) 4 mc @ 5/6 wks, DS2 (3) 2 mc @7 wks... DS3 (14/01/11 @35 wks) Dx with Factor V Leiden and Septate Uterus. Clexane and Aspirin throughout pregnancy and progesterone with DS3.

ClaireDeLoon · 01/04/2011 15:37

Has anyone seen anything about how justmee is? For example another thread I mean.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 01/04/2011 15:41

I am friends with her on FB, she is ok, decided not to go for the amnio I think, Don't want to say too much as it isn't my place I will let her know you were asking :)

justmee · 01/04/2011 16:23

im heree haha thanks coconuts :) what update are we doing let me know ill fill you in with my list of bad luck :-) xxx

justmee · 01/04/2011 16:29

claire goon

we havnt gone with amnio yet were waiting for a 16-20 week scan my risk is so high and to stop these injections that im convinced has been the thing to keep this baby in here totally freaks me out ...iv read alot of places that 3.4 isnt really much higher than expected they like to see 3 but some hosppitals even take 3.5 its been a nightmare iv been stressed the whole 1st 3 months and the time i felt ok i got that happen to me i thought my whole world was ending but im trying to stay possitive i keep forgetting how many weeks i am :S bad of me i try not to think about being pregnant which is not how i wanted it but its just the way im dealing with it thanks for asking about me means alot :) xxxx

luckyfor2 · 01/04/2011 16:51

I've changed my details slightly, just tests etc.

STARTING TESTING
HAVINGKITTENS Age 41 - MMC1 Nov 07 8wks (discovered due to bleeding at 10.5wks) ERPC, TOP1 for TS21 Aug 08, TOP2 for TS21 Feb 09, TOP incomplete, ERPC performed, Genetic Counselling & tests confirmed no chromosome problems with us, "just bad luck ", MMC2 Feb 10 5.5wks (seen at 8wk scan, no bleeding), MMC3 May 10 (as MMC2), RMC testing at UCH, no cause found - empirical 75mg asprin & vit D + early & regular scans for next pregnancy, MMC4 No fetal pole seen at 6.5 wks, follow up scan 10 days later, told of MMC, then "Something" spotted so instructed to wait another week before they would allow ERPC, ERPC a week later, waiting for NK Cell test results from Dr Shehata on NHS, taking 75mg Asprin, Vit D, Pregnacare Plus (w/Omega 3), 5mg Folic Acid (been taking since 1st TOP to try & prevent TS21 or similar issues), awaiting follow up telephone consultation appointment.
HAIRYLIGHTS, age 42, MC1 (Jun 10, very low HCG, suspected ectopic, methotrexate), MC 2 (Nov 22 2010, MMC,ERPC, no heart beat at ten weeks, fetus 8 week size), MC3 (MMC - Medical Management, Feb 13 2011, MMC at 7 week scan). Waiting to TTC
LAF77 , Age 33, MC1 (7 weeks Apr 10) MC2 (5 weeks Sept 10) MC3 (9 weeks Dec 10). All have been natural mcs and number 1 and 3 were embryonic . No children, First appointment with St. Mary's in April.
PANDA 3MMC, no.1 (embryonic loss - empty sac) 7weeks, no.2 at 12 weeks, no.3 at 8 weeks. Awaiting raft of tests for recurrent MC
CLAIREDELOON Age 38 1st mmc, development stopped approx 5 weeks (2007), 2nd mmc development stopped at approx 6 weeks (2009), 3rd mc development stopped at 9 weeks after seeing hb at 8+3 (2010). Bicornate uterus, starting testing Feb 2011.
NOTSOBARRENBROOK Age 35. 1st mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2009), 2nd mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2010), 3rd mmc @ 11 weeks, development stopped at 6 weeks 3 days (March 2010), 4th mmc @ 5 weeks (August 2010). Possible adenomyosis, awaiting hsg and results of testing from St Mary's.
MILKYWAY2007 Age 28 - DD age 3. 1st MC Oct 2009, 6 weeks. 2nd MMC March 2010, 11 weeks (baby passed away at 7 weeks). 3rd MC July 2010, 6 weeks. 4th MMC 24 Jan 2011, 9 weeks - no amniotic sac, baby measured 7weeks 4 days, no HB, had seen a healthy HB at 7 weeks. Blood clotting, hormone, genetic karyotype and shape and health of uterus checked and all clear. High dose folic acid prescribed.
LUCKYFOR2 Age 32 - DD age 5. DD age 3. 1st MC May 2010 found at 12 week scan passed away at 9 weeks. 2nd MC September 2010 natural at 8 weeks. 3nd MC January 2011 at 16 weeks, saw hb at 13 but no hb at 15.5. All tests have come back clear. Going to take Aspirin and Progesterone in next pregnancy (will be on Promise trial) currently ttc.
IGGI999 - Age 40, 3 year old DS. 3 MC last year, at 6, 8 and 8 weeks. Last two had hb detected. NHS blood tests came back clear, except for presence of antinuclear antibodies. To take aspirin for this. Going to see Shehata in May as think steroids are needed.
CONFU3ED - Age 35 1st MC 1998 14 weeks. DD age 11. 2nd MC July 2009 5.5 weeks. ERPC Twice. No tests. 6 months Clomid 3rd MC January 2010. The foetus sent for testing - came back fine. Been referred to recurrent MC clinic at the hospital for tests, waiting for appointment. Was told I have PCOS through a scan but never diagnosed.
PUREEQUEEN Age 33, MC1 (7 weeks Jan 08) MC2 (6 weeks March 08), DS born (prem) 2009 - now 2 years old (took low dose aspirin for that pregnancy - self prescribed!) MC3 (9 weeks Oct 10). MC4 Jan 2011. First 2 natural mcs latter 2 mmc and had ERPCs. I have also just had the chromosome test back on MC4 placenta and she had a genetic abnormality. Also have endo and a septate uterus.

UNDERGOING TREATMENT
CRYSTAL5 Age 38 - DS age 4. 6 m/c 1 at 11 weeks, 5 at 5/6 weeks. Ok blood tests, under Endocrinologist for Hypothyroid
LADYBEE 37, MC1 (5wks), DS (2), MC2 blighted ovum discovered @ 8 wk scan, MC3 natural @ 9 wks following hb seen at 7 1/2 wk. PCOS previously diagnosed, Factor V Leiden heterozygote discovered in recent testing. Treatment with aspirin (from BFP) + clexane started at 6 weeks. MC4 MMC @ 8.1 wks (discovered @ 11 wk scan) following hb seen at 6+6 wks. Consultant suggests aspirin + clexane to start at 4 weeks, plus progesterone pessaries. Management of MC tbc.
DIGITALGIRL Age 32 - DS 2.7 - 4MCs since ttc#2. MC1 5wks. MC2 6-7wks. MC3 7-8wks. MC4 8 weeks. All natural, except MC4 managed with ERPC for karyotyping purposes. Hormone levels fine, but taking Metformin for mild PCOS. Clotting tests all normal. DH & my karyotyping normal. Awaiting results from ERPC karyotyping, plus test results for NK Cells, anti-nuclear anti-bodies and anti-thyroid antibodes. Will be under Dr Shehata's treatment program if high nk cells are found. Waiting to TTC.

PREGNANT
BANANA87 Age 30- 1mmc@7 weeks, DD (2), 1 mmc 6 weeks, 1 mc 7 weeks, Going to try aspirin and progesterone as per consultant. Clotting bloods normal.
MUMMYABROAD Age 36, 1DS (2.9), 1MMC Mar 2010 (@14weeks) Ashermans diagnosis and treatment Nov 2010, Started TTC Jan 2011 BFP on Cycle 2 EDD 4/11/11
GLITTERYBITS 1 anembryonic MC (12 weeks), unexplained infertility, 1 round of clomid, currently pg and terrified!
JUSTMEE Age 21, MC1 (7 weeks), MC2 (6weeks), MC3 (5weeks) currently pregnant with 4th pregnancy using clexane injecting 20mg a day
LOVELYBUNCHOFCOCONUTS Age 23, 1 MC (13 weeks), 1 MMC (10 weeks - growth stopped at 7), 1DD born 2008, PCOS diagnosis, bi-cornuate uterus.
LOVEMYSLEEP Age 39, 1 mmc, dd born(now 5), 2nd mc (9wks, 2days), 3rd mc (9wks, 3days) and 4th mc at 5 wks. All tests on NHS came back clear. Currently undergoing treatment with Dr.Shehata for very high natural killer cells - aspirin, progesterone, steroids, omezaprole and one intralipid infusion completed.

GRADUATES WITH BABIES!!
LUNATIC dd1(4) 2 mmc (8 wks) dd2 stillborn (32+5), clotting problem, pg #5 section booked for 9th Feb @ 35wks. On 150mg aspirin daily.
STILLFRAZZLED Age 35, DS1 (3.6yo), 1 mc @ 5 weeks Jan 09, 2nd mc @ 9 weeks March 09, DS2 born @ 35+3 on 04/01/11 with Intra Uterine Growth Restriction but currently home and doing well.
MUMATRON Age 28 2 dc then 4mc, 3 @9weeks 1@5weeks, tests showed possible free protein s ishoo. dd2 born 06/01/2011, aspirin, claxane and high dose folic acid through pg.
JULEZBOO Age 29 1 mc @ 14 wks, DS1 (8yo) 4 mc @ 5/6 wks, DS2 (3) 2 mc @7 wks... DS3 (14/01/11 @35 wks) Dx with Factor V Leiden and Septate Uterus. Clexane and Aspirin throughout pregnancy and progesterone with DS3.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 01/04/2011 17:11

Have just added on my EDD.

STARTING TESTING
HAVINGKITTENS Age 41 - MMC1 Nov 07 8wks (discovered due to bleeding at 10.5wks) ERPC, TOP1 for TS21 Aug 08, TOP2 for TS21 Feb 09, TOP incomplete, ERPC performed, Genetic Counselling & tests confirmed no chromosome problems with us, "just bad luck ", MMC2 Feb 10 5.5wks (seen at 8wk scan, no bleeding), MMC3 May 10 (as MMC2), RMC testing at UCH, no cause found - empirical 75mg asprin & vit D + early & regular scans for next pregnancy, MMC4 No fetal pole seen at 6.5 wks, follow up scan 10 days later, told of MMC, then "Something" spotted so instructed to wait another week before they would allow ERPC, ERPC a week later, waiting for NK Cell test results from Dr Shehata on NHS, taking 75mg Asprin, Vit D, Pregnacare Plus (w/Omega 3), 5mg Folic Acid (been taking since 1st TOP to try & prevent TS21 or similar issues), awaiting follow up telephone consultation appointment.
HAIRYLIGHTS, age 42, MC1 (Jun 10, very low HCG, suspected ectopic, methotrexate), MC 2 (Nov 22 2010, MMC,ERPC, no heart beat at ten weeks, fetus 8 week size), MC3 (MMC - Medical Management, Feb 13 2011, MMC at 7 week scan). Waiting to TTC
LAF77 , Age 33, MC1 (7 weeks Apr 10) MC2 (5 weeks Sept 10) MC3 (9 weeks Dec 10). All have been natural mcs and number 1 and 3 were embryonic . No children, First appointment with St. Mary's in April.
PANDA 3MMC, no.1 (embryonic loss - empty sac) 7weeks, no.2 at 12 weeks, no.3 at 8 weeks. Awaiting raft of tests for recurrent MC
CLAIREDELOON Age 38 1st mmc, development stopped approx 5 weeks (2007), 2nd mmc development stopped at approx 6 weeks (2009), 3rd mc development stopped at 9 weeks after seeing hb at 8+3 (2010). Bicornate uterus, starting testing Feb 2011.
NOTSOBARRENBROOK Age 35. 1st mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2009), 2nd mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2010), 3rd mmc @ 11 weeks, development stopped at 6 weeks 3 days (March 2010), 4th mmc @ 5 weeks (August 2010). Possible adenomyosis, awaiting hsg and results of testing from St Mary's.
MILKYWAY2007 Age 28 - DD age 3. 1st MC Oct 2009, 6 weeks. 2nd MMC March 2010, 11 weeks (baby passed away at 7 weeks). 3rd MC July 2010, 6 weeks. 4th MMC 24 Jan 2011, 9 weeks - no amniotic sac, baby measured 7weeks 4 days, no HB, had seen a healthy HB at 7 weeks. Blood clotting, hormone, genetic karyotype and shape and health of uterus checked and all clear. High dose folic acid prescribed.
LUCKYFOR2 Age 32 - DD age 5. DD age 3. 1st MC May 2010 found at 12 week scan passed away at 9 weeks. 2nd MC September 2010 natural at 8 weeks. 3nd MC January 2011 at 16 weeks, saw hb at 13 but no hb at 15.5. All tests have come back clear. Going to take Aspirin and Progesterone in next pregnancy (will be on Promise trial) currently ttc.
IGGI999 - Age 40, 3 year old DS. 3 MC last year, at 6, 8 and 8 weeks. Last two had hb detected. NHS blood tests came back clear, except for presence of antinuclear antibodies. To take aspirin for this. Going to see Shehata in May as think steroids are needed.
CONFU3ED - Age 35 1st MC 1998 14 weeks. DD age 11. 2nd MC July 2009 5.5 weeks. ERPC Twice. No tests. 6 months Clomid 3rd MC January 2010. The foetus sent for testing - came back fine. Been referred to recurrent MC clinic at the hospital for tests, waiting for appointment. Was told I have PCOS through a scan but never diagnosed.
PUREEQUEEN Age 33, MC1 (7 weeks Jan 08) MC2 (6 weeks March 08), DS born (prem) 2009 - now 2 years old (took low dose aspirin for that pregnancy - self prescribed!) MC3 (9 weeks Oct 10). MC4 Jan 2011. First 2 natural mcs latter 2 mmc and had ERPCs. I have also just had the chromosome test back on MC4 placenta and she had a genetic abnormality. Also have endo and a septate uterus.

UNDERGOING TREATMENT
CRYSTAL5 Age 38 - DS age 4. 6 m/c 1 at 11 weeks, 5 at 5/6 weeks. Ok blood tests, under Endocrinologist for Hypothyroid
LADYBEE 37, MC1 (5wks), DS (2), MC2 blighted ovum discovered @ 8 wk scan, MC3 natural @ 9 wks following hb seen at 7 1/2 wk. PCOS previously diagnosed, Factor V Leiden heterozygote discovered in recent testing. Treatment with aspirin (from BFP) + clexane started at 6 weeks. MC4 MMC @ 8.1 wks (discovered @ 11 wk scan) following hb seen at 6+6 wks. Consultant suggests aspirin + clexane to start at 4 weeks, plus progesterone pessaries. Management of MC tbc.
DIGITALGIRL Age 32 - DS 2.7 - 4MCs since ttc#2. MC1 5wks. MC2 6-7wks. MC3 7-8wks. MC4 8 weeks. All natural, except MC4 managed with ERPC for karyotyping purposes. Hormone levels fine, but taking Metformin for mild PCOS. Clotting tests all normal. DH & my karyotyping normal. Awaiting results from ERPC karyotyping, plus test results for NK Cells, anti-nuclear anti-bodies and anti-thyroid antibodes. Will be under Dr Shehata's treatment program if high nk cells are found. Waiting to TTC.

PREGNANT
BANANA87 Age 30- 1mmc@7 weeks, DD (2), 1 mmc 6 weeks, 1 mc 7 weeks, Going to try aspirin and progesterone as per consultant. Clotting bloods normal.
MUMMYABROAD Age 36, 1DS (2.9), 1MMC Mar 2010 (@14weeks) Ashermans diagnosis and treatment Nov 2010, Started TTC Jan 2011 BFP on Cycle 2 EDD 4/11/11
GLITTERYBITS 1 anembryonic MC (12 weeks), unexplained infertility, 1 round of clomid, currently pg and terrified!
JUSTMEE Age 21, MC1 (7 weeks), MC2 (6weeks), MC3 (5weeks) currently pregnant with 4th pregnancy using clexane injecting 20mg a day
LOVELYBUNCHOFCOCONUTS Age 23, 1 MC (13 weeks), 1 MMC (10 weeks - growth stopped at 7), 1DD born 2008, PCOS diagnosis, bi-cornuate uterus. EDD 03/10/11
LOVEMYSLEEP Age 39, 1 mmc, dd born(now 5), 2nd mc (9wks, 2days), 3rd mc (9wks, 3days) and 4th mc at 5 wks. All tests on NHS came back clear. Currently undergoing treatment with Dr.Shehata for very high natural killer cells - aspirin, progesterone, steroids, omezaprole and one intralipid infusion completed.

GRADUATES WITH BABIES!!
LUNATIC dd1(4) 2 mmc (8 wks) dd2 stillborn (32+5), clotting problem, pg #5 section booked for 9th Feb @ 35wks. On 150mg aspirin daily.
STILLFRAZZLED Age 35, DS1 (3.6yo), 1 mc @ 5 weeks Jan 09, 2nd mc @ 9 weeks March 09, DS2 born @ 35+3 on 04/01/11 with Intra Uterine Growth Restriction but currently home and doing well.
MUMATRON Age 28 2 dc then 4mc, 3 @9weeks 1@5weeks, tests showed possible free protein s ishoo. dd2 born 06/01/2011, aspirin, claxane and high dose folic acid through pg.
JULEZBOO Age 29 1 mc @ 14 wks, DS1 (8yo) 4 mc @ 5/6 wks, DS2 (3) 2 mc @7 wks... DS3 (14/01/11 @35 wks) Dx with Factor V Leiden and Septate Uterus. Clexane and Aspirin throughout pregnancy and progesterone with DS3.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 01/04/2011 17:13

Hey and we're only on 687 posts, another 300 odd to get through before we need a new thread. The speed we talk that should last us about a week Grin

pureequeen · 01/04/2011 17:26

STARTING TESTING
HAVINGKITTENS Age 41 - MMC1 Nov 07 8wks (discovered due to bleeding at 10.5wks) ERPC, TOP1 for TS21 Aug 08, TOP2 for TS21 Feb 09, TOP incomplete, ERPC performed, Genetic Counselling & tests confirmed no chromosome problems with us, "just bad luck ", MMC2 Feb 10 5.5wks (seen at 8wk scan, no bleeding), MMC3 May 10 (as MMC2), RMC testing at UCH, no cause found - empirical 75mg asprin & vit D + early & regular scans for next pregnancy, MMC4 No fetal pole seen at 6.5 wks, follow up scan 10 days later, told of MMC, then "Something" spotted so instructed to wait another week before they would allow ERPC, ERPC a week later, waiting for NK Cell test results from Dr Shehata on NHS, taking 75mg Asprin, Vit D, Pregnacare Plus (w/Omega 3), 5mg Folic Acid (been taking since 1st TOP to try & prevent TS21 or similar issues), awaiting follow up telephone consultation appointment.
HAIRYLIGHTS, age 42, MC1 (Jun 10, very low HCG, suspected ectopic, methotrexate), MC 2 (Nov 22 2010, MMC,ERPC, no heart beat at ten weeks, fetus 8 week size), MC3 (MMC - Medical Management, Feb 13 2011, MMC at 7 week scan). Waiting to TTC
LAF77 , Age 33, MC1 (7 weeks Apr 10) MC2 (5 weeks Sept 10) MC3 (9 weeks Dec 10). All have been natural mcs and number 1 and 3 were embryonic . No children, First appointment with St. Mary's in April.
PANDA 3MMC, no.1 (embryonic loss - empty sac) 7weeks, no.2 at 12 weeks, no.3 at 8 weeks. Awaiting raft of tests for recurrent MC
CLAIREDELOON Age 38 1st mmc, development stopped approx 5 weeks (2007), 2nd mmc development stopped at approx 6 weeks (2009), 3rd mc development stopped at 9 weeks after seeing hb at 8+3 (2010). Bicornate uterus, starting testing Feb 2011.
NOTSOBARRENBROOK Age 35. 1st mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2009), 2nd mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2010), 3rd mmc @ 11 weeks, development stopped at 6 weeks 3 days (March 2010), 4th mmc @ 5 weeks (August 2010). Possible adenomyosis, awaiting hsg and results of testing from St Mary's.
MILKYWAY2007 Age 28 - DD age 3. 1st MC Oct 2009, 6 weeks. 2nd MMC March 2010, 11 weeks (baby passed away at 7 weeks). 3rd MC July 2010, 6 weeks. 4th MMC 24 Jan 2011, 9 weeks - no amniotic sac, baby measured 7weeks 4 days, no HB, had seen a healthy HB at 7 weeks. Blood clotting, hormone, genetic karyotype and shape and health of uterus checked and all clear. High dose folic acid prescribed.
LUCKYFOR2 Age 32 - DD age 5. DD age 3. 1st MC May 2010 found at 12 week scan passed away at 9 weeks. 2nd MC September 2010 natural at 8 weeks. 3nd MC January 2011 at 16 weeks, saw hb at 13 but no hb at 15.5. All tests have come back clear. Going to take Aspirin and Progesterone in next pregnancy (will be on Promise trial) currently ttc.
IGGI999 - Age 40, 3 year old DS. 3 MC last year, at 6, 8 and 8 weeks. Last two had hb detected. NHS blood tests came back clear, except for presence of antinuclear antibodies. To take aspirin for this. Going to see Shehata in May as think steroids are needed.
CONFU3ED - Age 35 1st MC 1998 14 weeks. DD age 11. 2nd MC July 2009 5.5 weeks. ERPC Twice. No tests. 6 months Clomid 3rd MC January 2010. The foetus sent for testing - came back fine. Been referred to recurrent MC clinic at the hospital for tests, waiting for appointment. Was told I have PCOS through a scan but never diagnosed.

UNDERGOING TREATMENT
CRYSTAL5 Age 38 - DS age 4. 6 m/c 1 at 11 weeks, 5 at 5/6 weeks. Ok blood tests, under Endocrinologist for Hypothyroid
LADYBEE 37, MC1 (5wks), DS (2), MC2 blighted ovum discovered @ 8 wk scan, MC3 natural @ 9 wks following hb seen at 7 1/2 wk. PCOS previously diagnosed, Factor V Leiden heterozygote discovered in recent testing. Treatment with aspirin (from BFP) + clexane started at 6 weeks. MC4 MMC @ 8.1 wks (discovered @ 11 wk scan) following hb seen at 6+6 wks. Consultant suggests aspirin + clexane to start at 4 weeks, plus progesterone pessaries. Management of MC tbc.
DIGITALGIRL Age 32 - DS 2.7 - 4MCs since ttc#2. MC1 5wks. MC2 6-7wks. MC3 7-8wks. MC4 8 weeks. All natural, except MC4 managed with ERPC for karyotyping purposes. Hormone levels fine, but taking Metformin for mild PCOS. Clotting tests all normal. DH & my karyotyping normal. Awaiting results from ERPC karyotyping, plus test results for NK Cells, anti-nuclear anti-bodies and anti-thyroid antibodes. Will be under Dr Shehata's treatment program if high nk cells are found. Waiting to TTC.
PUREEQUEEN Age 34, MC1 (7 weeks Jan 08) MC2 (6 weeks March 08), DS born (prem) 2009, MC3 (9 weeks Oct 10). MC4 Jan 2011. First 2 natural mcs latter 2 mmc/ERPCs. Chromosome test MC4 showed she had a genetic abnormality (cri du chat). Karotyping for me and DH fine but with "increase in length on satellite of short arm 13 and 15" (??) . Also have endo &septate uterus. Now TTC and will take aspirin and progesterone.

PREGNANT
BANANA87 Age 30- 1mmc@7 weeks, DD (2), 1 mmc 6 weeks, 1 mc 7 weeks, Going to try aspirin and progesterone as per consultant. Clotting bloods normal.
MUMMYABROAD Age 36, 1DS (2.9), 1MMC Mar 2010 (@14weeks) Ashermans diagnosis and treatment Nov 2010, Started TTC Jan 2011 BFP on Cycle 2 EDD 4/11/11
GLITTERYBITS 1 anembryonic MC (12 weeks), unexplained infertility, 1 round of clomid, currently pg and terrified!
JUSTMEE Age 21, MC1 (7 weeks), MC2 (6weeks), MC3 (5weeks) currently pregnant with 4th pregnancy using clexane injecting 20mg a day
LOVELYBUNCHOFCOCONUTS Age 23, 1 MC (13 weeks), 1 MMC (10 weeks - growth stopped at 7), 1DD born 2008, PCOS diagnosis, bi-cornuate uterus. EDD 03/10/11
LOVEMYSLEEP Age 39, 1 mmc, dd born(now 5), 2nd mc (9wks, 2days), 3rd mc (9wks, 3days) and 4th mc at 5 wks. All tests on NHS came back clear. Currently undergoing treatment with Dr.Shehata for very high natural killer cells - aspirin, progesterone, steroids, omezaprole and one intralipid infusion completed.

GRADUATES WITH BABIES!!
LUNATIC dd1(4) 2 mmc (8 wks) dd2 stillborn (32+5), clotting problem, pg #5 section booked for 9th Feb @ 35wks. On 150mg aspirin daily.
STILLFRAZZLED Age 35, DS1 (3.6yo), 1 mc @ 5 weeks Jan 09, 2nd mc @ 9 weeks March 09, DS2 born @ 35+3 on 04/01/11 with Intra Uterine Growth Restriction but currently home and doing well.
MUMATRON Age 28 2 dc then 4mc, 3 @9weeks 1@5weeks, tests showed possible free protein s ishoo. dd2 born 06/01/2011, aspirin, claxane and high dose folic acid through pg.
JULEZBOO Age 29 1 mc @ 14 wks, DS1 (8yo) 4 mc @ 5/6 wks, DS2 (3) 2 mc @7 wks... DS3 (14/01/11 @35 wks) Dx with Factor V Leiden and Septate Uterus. Clexane and Aspirin throughout pregnancy and progesterone with DS3.

hairylights · 01/04/2011 20:00

purequeen it was me for whom ivf is a last ditch long shot. Am awaiting tests including karotyping. If all come back clear and I either don't conceive naturally again or if I mc again then I will have ivf with pre-implantation testing.

Where I am the Nhs doesn't maritime miscarried
Foetuses so I will never know whether there were genetic problems or not, unless mine &dps karotyping shows problems.

hairylights · 01/04/2011 20:00

maritime? Genetically test!!!

Glitterybits · 01/04/2011 20:13

Thanks everyone for your lovely support. It really helped me in the slightly more mental moments. DH is brilliant at being calm and supportive, but I need a few crazy women who've been there to understand. I know that not all bleeding is bad news, but find me a single pregnant woman who is bleeding and calm about it. Thankfully, it's settled down a bit now, but it seems to flare up at the slightest thing, so no bedroom aerobics for me - not that I was really in the mood anyway!

Iggi Great news on the home insurance saving! Couldn't help but giggle at the Shehata fund. You have to laugh or you'd cry, wouldn't you? I'd keep quiet about seeing him at other appts tbh. It's really none of their business unless you want it to be.

mattsmama Thrilled to hear about the successful scan. Hope you had at least one stress-free day before beginning to worry again. It is so reassuring to get past each scanning hurdle, but I still occasionally think (after 3 of them) that someone will tell me I made the whole thing up!

Hairy Really glad you have a compassionate consultant. They seem to be few and far between. Also really pleased to hear that you've found an outlet that helps you. I was interested to hear what you said about blame. The topic has cropped up time and again over these threads and I think it's one of the biggest problems that most of us have. There is no one to blame for the loss of a child or an inability to conceive, which I think is why so many women feel as if they've somehow failed and often blame themselves. I think one of the strongest emotions I felt whilst battling infertility (aside from the total exasperation and helplessness of it all) was anger. I couldn't seem to direct it anywhere, but regularly felt like screaming at those who were lucky enough to fall pregnant and then complain about it!!!

digi Good news on all the positive lifestyle changes! Is the metformin causing you to have any adverse side effects? Hope they are minimal and give you the right end result.

frazzled I've missed you. Thanks for the words of wisdom and I'm sorry to hear you're feeling low about things. I think the best way to deal with the premature conversations is to treat them as compliments. Tiny babies are gorgeous and, whether your baby is a chubster or a tiny little one, there will always be someone somewhere with an opinion they just have to share with you, won't there? I know it's obviously a worry, but try to enjoy him while he is so little. I don't know - people spend so much time blathering on about how they all grow up so fast and then fret wildly when they're a bit smaller than average. The thing is, you have been the one to battle through the pregnancy, to deal with his early arrival and the fear of IUGR so you're no doubt on red alert and perhaps a little defensive when anyone says anything. Try not to take people's words negatively. They don't know any of the history. Chances are, if they did, they might connect brain to mouth before speaking. But, I know what you mean about it reinforcing all the worries you already have. None of this was ever meant to be easy, was it?

I read an article on IUGR the other day and thought of you. It seemed to suggest that most babies level out by the age of 2. I'm sure that is not the case for everyone, but hang in there. It's so bloody hard when you're completely exhausted on top of everything else.

And, onto your PILs. I really don't know what to say except I'm surprised you can even be bothered to go. I hope it went okay. I can't begin to understand parents who would not be there for their son at such a scary time of life. Hope you came up with something suitably cutting to say. mumatron's suggestion amused me no end!

confu3ed how we women must suffer for our art! Grin I'd be bloody disappointed if it didn't work!

kittens I'm with you. I've travelled this road for too long to think a positive mental attitude with help. Loads and loads of people have commented that perhaps I finally fell pg because I relaxed and it's the biggest load of old horse ever! I am eternally grateful I fell pregnant when I did, because I'm really sure I had reached the end of the line in terms of sanity! However, never once before, or during this pg have I felt relaxed and positive and I'm always qualifying statements with 'if' rather than 'when'. It makes getting organised for a new person very awkward, because I genuinely can't entertain the idea that it will happen until unless they arrive. I'm not on aspirin. I think I must just have a sensitive cervix. As long as the blood is coming from me rather than the baby - that's the main thing.

I'm very much with you with regards to people not wanting to take new jobs etc. because they are trying/ newly pregnant. I feel irritated by such comments and then instantly mean for trying to remove that innocent practicality - as you say. Tbh, the first time around was such a perfect pregnancy for me, that it's hard to imagine that I even considered problems of this nature about 3 years ago. I got pg with DS within a month of coming off the pill and the whole thing was pretty much textbook. Once you've had one, you doubt your ability to get pg even less. Doesn't take much to shatter the illusion though!

pure I wish I could advise you on how to deal with family/ friends who are pg/ ttc/ rubbing it all in your face etc. I mainly relied on a diet of throwing things, ranting on here, crying and drinking too much red wine. It doesn't really lessen the difficulty, but it prevents you from going completely mad. I once had to send about 5 congratulatory cards on births/pregnancies in the space of about 2 weeks and it really got to the point where I just didn't have another 'congratulations' in me. A very sage lady on this thread commented that I must feel as if I had a clown smile permanently painted on, which rang very true, but I was less than smiley in private!

On a more practical note, I found that keeping a diary really helped me (and still does a bit) get through the things I wanted to yell at people who were so desperately insensitive about it all. Writing it down helped to offload all the negativity without unnecessarily upsetting people, although I have had my less than sensible moments where I've blurted out exactly what I felt. A few months ago, one of my friends had a baby and, when I made a nice but non-committal remark about it on fb, they commented that surely it was about time I started thinking about number 2. I was so bloody angry that I should have had my 2nd baby before theirs had arrived that I said something along the lines of - 'We were expecting our 2nd child a couple of months ago, but it all went horribly wrong.' Not my finest hour, but almost necessary in some ways. If I can just make the odd person stop and think perhaps, a) this won't be such a taboo subject that we have to shut up about in public and b) we won't always have to be the ones who apologise for making people feel bad about our own grief!

Claire Wrt progesterone, it was the only one of my tests that ever came back as abnormal - hence the reason I couldn't conceive, because I wasn't even ovulating. Not sure how much you know about it all, so apologies if any of this covers stuff you're fully aware of already, but progesterone is the hormone that makes ovulation happen (gives you the surge and temp rise following it) and it should remain high after ovulation until the next cycle starts, unless you conceive. Basically, it enables you to sustain pregnancy if you conceive.

Having said that, I was told that they don't generally give it to you until you get a BFP (bit of a catch 22 situation), because it makes your body think it's producing enough and stops it from producing the potentially limited supply it is already managing! Also, progesterone will not save a doomed pregnancy, but it does seem to have a very strong psychological effect, even if there isn't enough research to validate it's usage. An awful lot of women seem to have successful pregnancies whilst on it and there is proof right here if you look back through the old threads. It's unlikely that you would have a problem with progesterone because of your ability to conceive, but it's definitely worth getting it tested if you haven't yet. It's a simple blood test and I'm surprised they haven't already though of ruling it out.

coconuts Sorry for my absence and not responding to you quickly enough. Yes, I did get a doppler at about your stage. How many weeks are you now? What I would say is that, much like baby monitors, they can cause as much anxiety as they can help you. Unfortunately, when you need the reassurance most (i.e. before the 20 week scan) it can be surprisingly difficult to pinpoint the hb, because they are moving around so much and are so little. I find my doppler an absolute godsend now the baby is large enough to locate a hb for more than 10 seconds - particularly when you have other concerns like spotting. However, do not read too much into it if you can't find it. The other thing I should mention is that even fairly good home dopplers are not the greatest so early in pregnancy. You may need to mess around with it for a long time before you find anything and you will probably find that it's much lower down in your pelvis than you think it is. Think just above pubic zone. Grin Hope it comforts rather than worries you anyway.

Lucky I had no idea scans were so cheap. It's probably a good job, as I'd have probably been forking out for them constantly if I'd known!

LAF You are a Mummy and I will be raising a glass of orange juice to all the Mummies on this thread on Sunday. Stay strong. You've come so far and keep reminding yourself that you're on the right road now. It's a long one, but you're getting there. My baby would have been 1 at the end of this month. It's very hard. Still. I still find it hard to be around pregnant women. I still find it hard to be around my friend who will be having her next baby in June, before me - when I should have completed my family by then or may have even been considering another baby. If an emotional storm is brewing then let it come and make it feel as it makes you feel as it's all part of the grieving process. It will pass, as they always do. Have a big hug from me. I'll be thinking of you this weekend.

Not much to report from this end, apart from being continually disillusioned with the NHS in general. I still haven't met my midwife and now can't even locate her because she's changed offices and contact numbers. 23 weeks pregnant, supposedly high risk and I can't even locate my own mw, nevermind meet her. SIGH! It's a good job I'm used to it. I've only seen the fill-in mw twice.
The spotting is still there on and off, but it's getting quite hard to maintain such high stress levels, so I've taken to analysing any bleeding and trying to assess it at home! The doppler is on hand and the hospital is presumably getting quite annoyed with my occasional calls. I have no choice but to ring them given my lack of mw!!! When I went into hospital, I clocked the massively overflowing box of pregnancy telephone queries, so the odd extra one from me won't hurt them. It is their job, after all.

Waves to anyone I've missed. x

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 01/04/2011 20:35

Thanks glittery Don't apologise for not replying straight away. :) I started a thread in pregnancy about the doppler and many have said the same as you, that it will be much lower than you would anticipate. Hopefully I can pin point it pretty quickly. Just to get me through these few weeks between the next scan until I feel some kicks. I felt kicks at 19weeks with DD so hopefully this one won't keep me waiting too long. I am 14 weeks tomorrow unbelievably. On one hand it is dragging but on the other it is flying by. I wish it would fly by faster!

Can't believe you have not seen your local MW properly yet. In my area, the antenatal visits start at 16 weeks and are four weekly until the third trimester and then fortnightly and then weekly from there. are you sure you haven't been overlooked or is it generally like that for everyone in your local area? Pleased the bleeding is slowing. Lots of rest with your feet up :)

mattsmama · 01/04/2011 22:14

Laf yes please add me to the list x Thanks Smile

Details: Aged 41. 1st MMC November 2004. My DS (who I love with all my heart) born 2006. 2nd MMC July 2010. 2 chemical pregnancies September and October 2010. Under Dr Shehata and got BFP on first round of treatment for high thyroid antibodies and high killer cells.

Iggi for what its worth I didn't bother mentioning to the NHS Consultantans that I was going to see Mr Shehata - the looks on their faces when I mentioned "immune issues" told me it wouldn't be worth it.

My GP however was fantastic about it all - so just goes to show you can never tell. I nearly fell off my chair when he said it was "great that we now had a plan of action" and he "would help me all the way! Shock

hairylights · 02/04/2011 19:54

glittery yes, anger is a hard one. Have been reading a really good book about it by a Tibetan Buddhist monk. I will check his name and post it later if anyone is interested.

I have found imagining that stubborn little soul out there waiting for me to be ready very helpful. Clearly I am meant to get pregnant and clearly my body wants to grow my baby... Have been battling issues of a long over due divorce which is now being sorted out (am divorced but haven't got my house back yet). So I see it as somehow not yet having been ready or "free" .

Glitterybits · 02/04/2011 21:10

Coconuts Yay for 14 weeks! It is odd how the time flies and drags in equal measure. I'm sure I started to feel little flutters as early as 14 weeks this time around. I'm told this is nigh on impossible, but I know the difference between wind and baby, so the experts can sod off! I was nearly 16 weeks when I first felt DS. The sensation is slightly different this time, because of the site of my placenta, but I suspect I have a lively one in there because I'm certainly aware of her now! I reckon she'll have a mean right hook!

When I was pg with DS I was seen by the mw much more frequently. This time around they were keen to give me consultant-led care as opposed to mw-led care because of the clomid. Since it really has no bearing on the success of your pg (from what I can work out), the consultant sent me straight back to mw-led care on the first visit, but my mw doesn't know this yet as I was told I'd have to inform her myself at my next appt. I tried to book this in advance and was told to call back later. Obviously I'll have to do it through the hospital because I have no other number! They don't want to see me again until I'm 26 weeks.

I was seen at 14.5 weeks (for booking in and bloods - they were late because my midwife was away over Xmas), then I was told I'd normally be seen at 16 weeks, but it seemed pointless because it was only a week and a half away!? Wouldn't mind so much, but she didn't do any checks at 14 weeks - just transferred the details of my bp over from my previous visit at 9 weeks and guessed the height of the fundus. I get the feeling they're overworked and, assuming everything seems reasonably okay, they leave you to it. I just wish they made some allowance for people who were emotionally fragile. It's a bit shit if a lack of physical reassurance renders you so nervous all of the time.

It was also quite telling when I went into hospital because of the bleeding and there was no record of my blood gp on my notes. The consultant asked why the info wasn't there and I couldn't resist saying that you had to see your mw in order for her to write it on your notes and I hadn't seen anyone since they'd taken my blood for testing purposes. Oh well, we shall plod on!

hairy My friend swears by a book (also written by a Buddhist monk, I think) about finding inner peace. She was having real problems with anger issues in her daily life - although not remotely related to the problems experienced here. She was just really struggling to balance work with family. I am not a religious person and I normally resist reading things like that - being such a cynic - but whatever helps you to find some way through it can only be a good thing. She is noticeably more mellow since she told me about it, so it obviously works for her.

Waves to everyone else. Hope you're all having a nice weekend.

Had to ring the hospital again this morning because I woke to another bright red bleed and nearly had kittens. Managed to calm myself down and phone the hospital after I'd used the doppler and felt a few gymnastic movements in there. It's weird because the movement should reassure me, but I've found myself wondering if the kicks are happy kicks or distressed kicks. I should have my mind removed for a bit, so I stop thinking the worst. I decided to be brave and not go to hospital. I have a feeling I can just expect this in my pg from now on, although I don't know why I think/ accept that. I can't go to my local hospital on a weekend (why is it always a sodding weekend when this happens?) and it seemed ridiculous to make the half hour drive to see the horrible doctor who made me feel so rubbish last week. I decided that they probably couldn't tell me any more than I could find out for myself with a doppler. The woman I spoke to suggested I rest and try not to lift anything heavy. Not ideal when you have a 2 year old who weighs a ton! Anyway, it's slowed again now. I imagine I will just have to get used to yo-yoing emotions for the next few months and try to stay positive.

hairylights · 02/04/2011 21:26

Oh glittery sorry about the bleeding. X

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hairylights · 03/04/2011 20:06

lunatic hi. You are an inspiration to me. How are you getting along? I've decided next pregnancy I'm going on to 150mg aspirin(doc says fine) . Tests start next week.

Julezboo · 04/04/2011 00:46

Another one willing you all on from sidelines. I read this thread every night around 3am when I am doing night feed... Will regret not going to bed early later!

Wanted to pop by n update on Oliver, hes 11 weeks old now and the poor lil guy has had such a rough few weeks, we have finally pinpointed it to a milk protein allergy after treating him for colic and reflux :( i feel so bad, but hes been on soy milk since fri and is much much better xx

Sending everyone hugs xx

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freelancegirl · 04/04/2011 09:57

Morning everyone! Hope you all had a nice weekend.

I have a question for Mattsmama (hello!) and anyone else who might know actually (if this doesn't get buried!, what do they give you for high thyroid antibodies? I have them too and have just started to take 200mcg of selenium a day as I have heard this can help.

pureequeen · 04/04/2011 13:42

hi all.

glittery how is the bleeding this week? Must be heart-stoppingly horrible, no matter how many times you are told it is probably nothing.

freelance I don't know about thyroid antibodies but I do know that selenium is generally a Very Good Thing ttc and preventing m/c - both my DH and I are nibbling on Brazil nuts every day (you only need one usually - had to stop DH after he'd wolfed half the packet).

Had a bit of a rubbish w.e: DS spent the night in hospital on Friday (as did I on a lovely vinyl squab). He is fine now but it did bring back all my overpowering irrational fears about what if something happened to him etc. Plus I had to give his history to about 10 different doctors (at the weekend they are all all junior docs who look like teenagers but are very thorough...). After the 5th Dr asked twice if he had any siblings I said "not for want of trying and I am actually in this hospital's RMC programme". But anyway, he's out now and hopefully his underlying health issue can get sorted out soon.

But I am sure Mothers Day was hard for lots of people, much worse than a night in a children's ward.

There is a woman at work who has the same due date as my m/c before last (if that makes any sense). Am avoiding her like the plague as she is coming up to 8months and looking so healthy and pregnant - which is of course great for her. Plus my train pass runs out next week as I only got a 6 month pass thinking I would be on maternity leave. I will get a 12 month pass next time - sure fire way to ensure a healthy pregnancy ASAP?! That and buying an expensive new suit? Worked a treat last time.