Recurrent Buns - Miscarriage Testing and Beyond! Part three..!

[Julezboo]

Not so imaginative as lunatic !

Part One HERE

Part Two HERE

There are a mixture of Pg ladies, new BFP's (YAY) and new ladies who have sadly had to join us and are going through testing. Lots of OMW's and hand holding here!

Sit down, grab a cushion and a hot choc and get comfortable.

oooh sparkly

I got the call today at work to come and pick up my boy who is poorly - he's currently in bed, and I'm hoping it's just a cold brewing and not something more spotty sinister.

Speaking of spotting - keep gripping on to that ledge glitterybrokenbits, exceptionally light, pink spotting I'm sure can be filed in the not-to-be-worried-about-excessively bin.

Sorry you don't have someone in RL who really gets it enough to be a good sounding board/shoulder. I think it helps that me and her both had our first MCs within about two weeks of each other, but we did go through a difficult patch when I subsequently got pg. She was further along than me with that 1st MC, and was terrified of it happening again so delayed TTC for quite a while not being sure it was what she & her DH wanted, whereas my response was to go all out and try to get PG again, the loss cystalizing that it was EXACTLY what we wanted. I found it hard that she distanced herself from my pregnancy but understood what was going on. She has only just confessed how hard she found it being happy for me, but sad for her. Of course I know that feeling viscerally and we've both cried for each other's losses and adore each other's children now. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's not an easy aspect of friendship on any side but things don't always stay the same (thank goodness) and in time it may improve.

Right ladies, please cross everything you can for me. I'm 10 dpo with a usual LP of 11, with a bit of luck I will at least see whether taking B-complex has helped extend my luteal phase at all, not at all concerned about whether there might be any scope for BFP, oh no.

hello all and thanks for the shoulder pats.

glitterybits am liking the festive namechange! Totally understand your reluctance to share with even close family. Last time I was pg I didn't even tell my mum till after we'd had the fateful scan...not saying anything meant it wasn't real.

mummybackincr congrats on the arrival of AF!

banana Ditto for you. must be such a relief!

Have been having the very lightest, very faintest spotting over the weekend (only visible on very close inspection after an internal check). It's definitely not ovulation, so have fingers crossed that I'm skipping straight to AF soon. I really really don't want another 60 day wtf cycle, one of the reasons is because it means AF will clash horribly with a swanky hotel night away with DH in early Jan - our first ever without DS.

If no AF by January I will call the EPU and ask if I can get the clotting tests done anyway. Surely if I got a negative hpt in mid-November the rest of my body would have settled down by then (even if my hormones haven't)? Can anyone tell me when they had their clotting tests done post-mc?

x-posted lady sorry to hear about DS, does he have his second set of molars yet? My DS had a high temp/cold a couple of weeks ago...turned out to be the first of his second set of molars coming through (he's 2.3), only 3 to go. And fingers crossed for your lengthening LP!

Hi all, time for a big catch up, busy here this afternoon.

banana congrats on AF. Yay!! Hope you manage to get the tests done Tuesday.

mummy Glad you got back safely :) No arnica cream things feel fine now. Apart from I took the advice of MN and got the blardy 30 day shred DVD so a bit achy today but it's my own fault! Yay for your AF too :)

So what happened with your luggage?

frazzled I don't think I have ever been told anything useful by any HV. I really struggled with weaning DD and I just got given a leaflet dated 1995.

Glad your kitchen is moving along nicely, it'll look fab when it's complete :)

broken I catastrophise the same as you don't worry. My mum calls it "exaggeration" though but I don't see it the same way!

A week to go... Hold on tight

I survived better than I thought I would which is a relief.

My goodness periods all round! Are we synching?

I am really happy for you coconuts xxx

My luggage showed up yesterday, apparently it wasnt as quick as me at making a connection in Houston I had to do it in 45 mins because my plane from London came in late DS shouted "we run mummy!" excitedly all the way

I went to see my sister in laws 7 day old baby yesterday, well actually I just delivered presents and hovered around in the background, which is about as much as I wanted to do. DS shed a tear when he saw him though. Not sure if that is his natural latino personality (they do love a good cry!) or a bit of mc tinged regret.

digi sorry I didnt have clotting test in the end, I would guess that waiting for first AF is best, at least you know you are in a proper cycle, but your idea of after neg hpt does seem sensible.

lady everything is duely crossed, I am rooting for you having seen your chart on the other thread. xxx

broken christmas isnt the easiest time to not be drinking is it? Hope you manage to find a way through the minefield. LOVE your new christmas name

hope everyone else is OK, sorry for not name checking everyone xxxxxxxxxx

Ooh Coco great news!!!

Digi I feel your pain - I'm on WTF as well and waiting for tests, but it's early days for me.

Wave to Mumatron and Lady

I'm in a bit of a bad place with all of this :( Can't seem to stop being weepy all the time. I guess it may be hormones returning to normal.

Lovely DP is playing happy music and making a roast dinner, though, and I am off to have a pampering bath with aromatherapy oils in.

Thanks lunatic I am probably being way ott and hormonal.

No appts for me this week lunatic apart from midwife popping in fri morning to check my bp.

its gonna be a self centred post sorry ladies I will do a proper catch up tomorrow evening. I am freaking out! 31 weeks is when DS was born. I am 30 weeks today. I am in so much pain with my back, plvis and hips and almost regrtting not taking them up on the crutches offer :( i have a belt though.

Hugs to all that needs them and waves to everyone else x

lunatic I will miss you at ESH as I am due in on Wednesday. I can't even begin to describe how nervous I am. I suppose I imagine the worst because I've been through the worst. I've never heard my baby's heartbeat at my previous scan, so I can't even imagine what it would be like to think of having a real live baby inside me, but the thought of not having one is too terrible to bear. I am still fairly asymptomatic.

At least my appointment is first thing, so I don't have to draw it out.

Evening -

digitalgirl - what, really? There could be more teeth? He's 2.8, but I hadn't realised there could be more teeth coming through. I have asked him if anything hurts and he says no, but I might see if I can see anything with a torch. Fortunately we have a good 'mummy dentist' thing going on for tooth brushing that he plays along with quite happily.

Digi, I keep trying to work out my timeframes for testing but seem to have a memory black hole. I'm pretty sure it was only 6 weeks from my MC though, then another 6 weeks to wait for the results consultant appointment.

MummyA I am seriously considering NOT temping the next few days. It's just so maddening. I can bet that my temp will be up tomorrow and then plummet the day after. So I'll spend all day walking around hoping hoping hoping and then plunge back down into pit of despair while hoping that AF won't turn up, which it will but only at night so I'll just about have convinced myself it's not coming. If I'm really lucky, it won't turn up until 30mins after I test the day after "because I'm late". .

Oops. D'ya think maybe I need to stop obessing?

hairyfairy I'm really sorry. I do sympathasize. It took me to a very bad place for much longer this time. I took a week of work but when I went back I was very fragile, cried into and out of work most days. Cried at night in bed, sometimes small weepings, sometimes enormous howly bags. I still cry an awful lot and I'm on my 4th cycle trying again. It's much harder this time around. Even having gone through the testing and agreed a treatment plan it still feels like I'm hanging on by a thin thread some of the time. But the thing is, time doesn't make the pain any less painful. What it does is allow less time to be spent feeling that pain. The gaps between each painful episode get filled up with other thoughts and feelings. Which makes it more bearable.

Julez nice to see you, even if it's only briefly. Sorry to hear you are still in a lot of pain, I don't want to wish that it continues any longer but I do hope this bub stays put.

LAF I really hope the scan is ok for you.

Sympathasize? Is that some sort of emotional exercise? or supersized sympathy?

Also a week off etc etc. Sorry. Fingers run faster than brain.

mummy Just read your post as "hoovered in the background" Strange lady doing someone else's housework!

Would be good if we were all synchronizing, let me know when you all ovulate hey :) Anyway it's pretty much stopped now. It's just like a brown mucus now (TMI Sorry) I should learn not to get my hopes up. This is ridiculous. Even if it was AF I would have been spending the next 6 months with OPK fever in case I ovulated. I gave up doing them before as I read they are famously inconsistent with PCOS due to the LH surges, now I wish I'd carried on. I don't know what it could be. Do you get spotting if you ovulate? could it possibly be that? Should I get the OPK's back out? AArgh!! Too many questions.

lunatic I should be having a phonecall by 9th but I'm not holding my breath.

lady that used to happen to me. I'd test because I thought I was late and then an hour later or something AF would get me. But I was having like 40, 50, 60 day cycles so I was going out of my tree!!

Thanks you guys. I think I may be ovulating . Fx body is getting back to normal. Gosh lady only a week off? I'm on my fourth week. Am hoping for a note to do a small amount of work at home next wk and maybe a couple of afternoons week after as a staged return.

yes, I could have done with more but for some reason felt bad about taking more - I think because I also quite often have to take time off to look after sick DS, so it feels like my own sick leave. Boss was understanding and said take as much as you need. Plus I took a week last time and it seemed odd to take more. Even though reaction was completely different.

I don't work in public-facing role, which I think helps. And I did work at home a bit more.
In the end returning to the work did help feel a bit more normal though.

Lady I've just been to meet the person deputising for me and had lunch, and a good catch up - which has actually made me feel much better. I think I am ready for a few hours next week :) it will give me something else to focus on I guess. I don't want to wallow for too long.

My boss (and everyone else I have talked to from work) keeps saying 'make sure you recover properly before you come back' but I do think doing a bit of work, even if it's just paperwork/planning, will keep my brain going and will be good for me. So I'm asking doc to write me a 'fit for work with reducee hours' note and add that I am to return gradually.

Still a week seems like hardly any time, poor you :(

In other news, I am ovulating, almost certainly . thank god I am ovulating because it's a sign my body still works after all this to-ing and fro-ing!

hairy yay for ovulating :)

lunatic take it easy at work and have a lovely dinner :)

Well it is well and truly AF, started properly today. Strange though, no pains, not hugely heavy like I expected after 6 barren months!

Another question though, if I did ovulate would it have been shortly after the end of last period or just before the start of this one? I'm kicking myself that I missed it - potentially - and could have actually had a BFP by now. I hate what ifs. And when this finishes I will do my OPKs all the time just in case. I will win this mighty battle

Very quick one from me as a result of being a bit gripped by nausea. Started the day by having a moment and having to quickly move the washing-up bowl! I doubt there are many women who smile whilst they are vomiting but I'm hoping, against my better judgement, that this is a good sign.

LAF Big cyber hug and lots and lots of luck for tomorrow. I have everything crossed for you. I would say I can't imagine how you must be feeling, but of course I can. Let us know how you get on.

Promise to name check properly tomorrow. Hope you're all okay.

Glitterybits Yay for nausea!

Coconuts Yay for AF!

LAF thinking of you today!!!

Hairy Yay for ovulating!!!

I am on CD4 now of AF :) Never been happier. Had bloods taken yesterday for clotting so will be trying to get appt with consultant next week, esp as I am leaving the following week to go back to the US for Christmas. Have a scan on Monday to check whatever was there is now gone. Have a great day (my fingers firmly crossed for you LAF).

hello just a quick update from me before I head into work. I was able to see a HB today, but she said that the baby was measuring 5-6 weeks (which I suppose is 7-8 weeks after LMP) and I should be 6-7 weeks (8-9 weeks after LMP). I have another scan in 2 weeks time to see if the baby will grow. She said it seemed that there was an area of blood in my uterus, but it wasn't affecting the pregnancy.

I'm not sure what to think. Has anybody on the board ever had a successful pregnancy if their baby is measuring small early?

I guess I should be glad that there is a baby with a HB, but if it doesn't grow, then I will be devastated, as I'm going home for Christmas and Xmas with my family is a stressful time as is. The scan is right before Christmas, so I really could do with good news. DH didn't think that the nurse was giving us bad news, but I didn't really feel like I was getting good news. I wish I had asked more questions, but I didn't know what to ask. There was a medical student there too and she was whispering to him after the exam as I was dressing. I couldn't hear what she said, but I don't think it is right for a nurse to be whispering within your vicinity.

All I can do is wait now I guess.

Oh LAF, keep strong and I (and I'm sure others) will have things firmly, firmly corssed for you.

Very insensitive of the staff to be whispering

Just running in quickly and doing a wiggly dance of victory - the surgery just rang they are doing blood tests for Thyroid function, Renal bloods,Glucose and Full Count - the start of more to come I hope!

I am going to request LH and FSH when my cycle is normal again.

At last someone is taking me seriously!!!

And I have EWCM so I was right about ovulating!

Hurrah!!!!!!

sorry to be sol self-indulgent, will check in later to catch up with you all.

wriggles back out of thread

LAF I'm sorry your scan wasn't as straighforward as you had hoped. It's never easy, is it? I had a scan a couple of weeks ago. I was also measuring less than I thought (and I am very regular). My doctor didn't seem very concerned at all. I think it is very positive that you have seen a HB and I think it is hard to precisely date at this early stage. If you saw a HB I would imagine it is closer to 6 weeks (she did say 5-6 weeks...) and the lower end of your dates would mean 6 weeks. So maybe not that far off? I have friends who measured a week less and everything was fine (although they were concerned initially). I know you know all this, but dates can vary as you can ovulate late and it can take longer to implant. I know it is SO tough, but fingers crossed. Here is hoping for some symptoms to comfort you or at least some distractions.

Hello to everyone else. hope everyone is staying warm!

LAF you may have ovulated later than usual? Seeing a hb is good though. Fingers crossed for you, we all know how worrying it is to get a scan that doesn't match our expectations. I'm sure if they thought there was a strong possibility of anything being amiss they would have suggested weekly scans as they did when my scan showed hb was bradycardic.

Am v of hairy ovulating. I'm spotting slightly heavier today, so I'm still hoping it'll turn into AF. I think even if it doesn't turn red I'm going to count it as af for testing purposes.

Am also of banana being able to test for clotting after only one af when my hospital has specified two. But obv very pleased for both you having cycles that are back on track.

I really hate my body for being so fucking rubbish and slow. Long post mc recovery. Long cycles. And shite at pregnancy.

LAF Sorry you have come away from your scan not filled with the joy you had anticipated but it is still positive. your bean has stuck and you have seen a hb. Matching what digi and lulu have said, you may well have ovulated a little later than usual.

:) for hairy