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Recurrent Buns - Miscarriage Testing and Beyond! Part three..!

953 replies

Julezboo · 23/11/2010 12:52

Not so imaginative as lunatic !

Part One HERE

Part Two HERE

There are a mixture of Pg ladies, new BFP's (YAY) and new ladies who have sadly had to join us and are going through testing. Lots of OMW's and hand holding here!

Sit down, grab a cushion and a hot choc and get comfortable.

OP posts:
ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 25/01/2011 21:16

I can't.

I will do an OPK tomorrow or maybe before bed mummy I'm all wee'd out today!

I feel numb, I will not let myself get excited about this.

digitalgirl · 25/01/2011 21:19

Omg - its good news day on this thread! Whispered congrats to coconuts you sound preggars to me Grin

MummyAbroad · 25/01/2011 21:22

coco our list Grin I promise not to listfiddle, stay here next to as long as you like.

banana I am also avoiding newborns, I missed a christening and am not going to the usual park because a friend there has just had one. I dont see the point of suffering through situations that I just wont enjoy just to keep other people happy.

Hello, I forgot to say thanks for your lovely message the other day, it did cheer me upSmile

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 25/01/2011 21:25

mummy Grin I do love a good list!! I am a bit OCD about lists!! I will definitely stay next to you for a little while. I hav spent months months begging for this moment and now it's possibly here I am bricking it.

digi thanks.

Grin
MummyAbroad · 25/01/2011 21:31

"possibly here"??! Peeing is believing cocoGrin

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 25/01/2011 21:36

Haha that's a classic Buns quote for the future!! i'll remember it for when it's your turn!!

Glitterybits · 25/01/2011 22:14

Aaagh the site keeps kicking me out and deleting msgs. congrats to Coconuts. Everything crossed for you. X

Crystal5 · 26/01/2011 07:46

Just quickly as DS is grumpy bum this morning and shouting he wants crackers for brekkies! My 21 day progesterone result is 31. Is that good or can I ask for Clomid?

Be back later with catch ups x

ClaireDeLoon · 26/01/2011 11:42

Glittery sorry wasn't around yesterday to say a huge YAYYYYYYYY that's wonderful news, hope you're still smiling!

coco congratulations :o more lovvely news!!!

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 26/01/2011 13:43

Thanks all, mummy I got a positive OPK too last night and this morning.

I've got weird cramps/pains. Is this normal?

MrsMcQ · 26/01/2011 13:49

Hi everyone,

I was looking for information on recurrent miscarriages and I found this thread.

You guys sound like you know what you're talking about so I'm hoping you can help.

I had 3 miscarriages last year, after the 3rd the hospital did 3 blood tests (not sure exactly what they were for but one was for clotting disorders). Anyway they all came back clear and I haven't been referred for any further treatment. I've just been told to go back to my GP when I fall pregnant again.

I feel like I'm being fobbed off. Can you tell me what sort of tests I should be getting? Though I'm not sure I have the energy to put up a fight, its stressful enough as it is :(

thanks
MrsMcQ

MummyAbroad · 26/01/2011 13:54

coco I am on the TTC after Miscarriage thread, and there have been a rash of xmas BFPS's, about 10! ALL of the ladies are worried about cramps too, but after a big survey have decided that its totally normal. I think its all the burrowing and your uterus getting warmed up for some stretching. I am sure the other pregnant ladies will be on soon to tell you the same thing.

Hi Crystal I dont know anything about the progesteron test myself, but does this
www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hormonelevels.html#female says a level of over 15 means you ovulated Smile

digitalgirl · 26/01/2011 14:02

coconuts any more poas-ing today? Or are you still in denial?

I'm having a bit of a downer today. Keep having horrible dreams about my friend who's due any day now. Not in a 'worried for her' capacity, they're all 'her being nasty to me' type dreams. We've not spoken much since she got pregnant as she has stated in no uncertain terms that:
a) she only got pregnant as it was a convenient time to do it career wise
b) she doesn't really want kids and is just doing it for her boyfriend
c) has hated being pregnant and was secretly hoping to miscarry in the first trimester
d) and is convinced 'it' will be a little sod once it's born and continue to make her life difficult.

She's a very intelligent woman and has been a good friend for a very long time. But I just can't believe that she feels this way and after all this time and everything I've been through has never felt the need to tone down her complaints in front of me.

Am hoping that once the baby is born, that her maternal hormones will eventually kick in. I think I'm mourning the loss of our friendship really, as we obviously now see things so differently to each other. She's so cold-hearted about infertility, pregnancy and motherhood that I don't think I can relate to her anymore.

Anyway - rant over. Need some chocolate to cheer me up. And that's another thing. I have put on so much weight since Christmas...

MummyAbroad · 26/01/2011 14:19

oooh, and forgot to say, I finally worked out how to track my parcel on line (the HSG results going to America) the status is now "on final delivery route"!

digi I take it this is her first? People change an awful lot after a baby, not only because of the hormones, but over the months having to adjust your world to put your child and the centre of it, and care for someone else more than you care for yourself. She is going to find the adjustment very very hard because her current views are really far away from where she will end up. Stand back from a long distance and just watch, a few months down the road she will be eating all her words or having a full on breakdown, after that she might emerge to be a much better friend!

milkyway2007 · 26/01/2011 15:14

Hi I have just posted a thread and then I found this thread. I've had 4 miscarriages in a row since October 2009. I found out about my last one this Monday in a scan.

I am so frustrated - I had tests done after my 3rd miscarriage, for blood clotting and genetic karyotyping but all came back clear. I know i have some kind of hormone problem because I havent had any pregnancy symptoms with all four pregnancies I miscarried. So my gut feeling tells me something isnt working properly to let my babies grow beyong 6-7 weeks.

I have asked my GP to refer me to Lesley Regan's recurrent miscarriage clinc in St Marys in London - anyone been there for testing? I am so disappointed with the level of care I have received in my hospital - they literally kicked me out the door when they found my baby had died on Monday - the nurse was like "Ive got 12 other ladies waiting in reception" as she ran out of the room - and I sat there thinking "yea because they are more important, as they are the ones carrying live babies"...

I thought the 3 times was bad luck, but now, I am feeling like a hypochondriac trying to find an illness causing the miscarriages, but I fear if nothing is wrong, will I ever have another baby again?

MummyAbroad · 26/01/2011 15:33

Hello Milkyway welcome to the thread. I am so sorry for your losses, that's a heartbreaking story about being shoved out of the hospitalSad How do these nurses get such hard hearts?Angry

I havent been treated at St Mary's but I believe other ladies on this thread have/are (NotsoBarrenBrook?) If you scroll back you will see we have a list going, you can see where everyone is on their journey.

Have you read Lesley Regan's book ("Miscarriage - what every woman needs to know")? I found it quite hardgoing (overwhelming to see ALL the possible scenarios, you start thinking you have them all!) but helpful in seeing what tests are available.

I am an example of someone with a problem that is hardly ever detected by standard tests (AS) Have you had an HSG/sHG/hycosy/lap to look for structural problems? They do tend to focus on the hormonal problems more than structural problems (cheaper to test for!) in my view. Its worth exploring every avenue, especially if the hormones are coming back "normal" Also, are you confident your tests were done correctly? Do any need repeating?

Please know that you are not a hypochondriac, you have suffered terrible losses and deserve to have a decent diagnosis and treatment plan. Unfortunately, so many women have to be their own advocates to get that. No one should have to fight and struggle to get good treatment, but its often necessary. I can tell you that I had to fight tooth and nail and pay private to get my diagnosis and treatment, but its the best thing I ever did. I feel so much better now that I know what the problem is and I am (almost always Wink ) hopeful for the future. Its worth the effort.

take care xx

MummyAbroad · 26/01/2011 15:42

OH MY GOD!!!!! I AM IN FLOODS OF TEARS (OF JOY!)

Dear MummyAbroad
Your HSG demonstrates a normal uterine cavity. Next step is an ultrasound of you uterine lining at midcycle to assess endometrial growth and development. The lining should be more than 7 mm thick and have a trilaminar pattern. In order to verify that the timing is correct, the ultrasonographer should see a preovulatory follicle on one of your ovaries. Some of the above is ?technical stuff? but the ultrasound folk will know what all that means.

Charles March MD

"Techincal stuff"! isnt he sweet!

notsobarrenmorebrokenbrook · 26/01/2011 15:59

Yey MA!!!!! splendid news indeed! Veeeeeery happy for you. What happens now if you don't mind me asking? Hopefully not much more is needed and you will be diffed within weeks! Grin

milkyway hello, I replied to you on your other message, welcome to the thread, it's very nice here. And to reiterate what I said before please feel free to message me or ask questions about St Mary's and I will try and answer them as best I can.

coconuts

justmee · 26/01/2011 16:00

Yayyyy coconuts!!!! :)))
enjoy you are well and truly pregnant a line is a line ! :)eee so happy for you xxxxx

Ladybee · 26/01/2011 16:05

MummyAbroad that's great news! Not surprised you are in tears. And wasn't that prompt! He must have looked at them the moment he got them and written immediately. That's amazing.

Coconuts what's this? You're up-the-duff? Now I Really am understanding why sept is such a busy month in delivery suites. Good luck m'dear! Fingers crossed this all keeps going as it should.

Thanks for all the support re: childminder and scan wibbling. I did take DS to the GP yesterday, the same Dr who saw him when he'd had a chest infection last, she listened to him and said he was completely clear, just had a productive cough but lungs not making wheezing or rattly sounds. Took quite a lot of joy in texting that to my CM but still annoyed that she took this action. Still, we are looking to move him to nursery now and today was lucky enough to get a call saying they have some slots available that we can have to transition him with and more should be coming free after Easter.

We also had a bit of luck up at the clinic today. After all the scan wobbling I did a bit more research and found that they really Should be able to see a HB today, but that at any rate having had a scan 2 weeks ago, it would show whether development was happening if I had one today.
So I did. And we have a bean measuring just right for dates, maybe a day ahead, and with a good quick heartbeat. GrinGrin

I am going to allow myself to feel happy and positive about this, because even though I know that my situation means nothing is guaranteed I feel as though at least I'm on the right track. And that's the best start I can have.

So the only thing left for today is a job interview for my DH (2nd round). It will be life-changing for us if he gets this position, but as I told him over a celebratory cup of mint tea, if he doesn't get offered it, we haven't lost anything and if he does, we will cope with the disruption as it will be worth it. So I'm relaxing one set of fingers and toes but keeping the other ones tightly crossed.

notsobarrenmorebrokenbrook · 26/01/2011 16:10

Wowser, good news all round on here today! bee that's wonderful news, am made up for you. Congrats chicken x

MummyAbroad · 26/01/2011 16:17

BEEEEEEE!!!! Grin Grin Grin Grin Well done for being brave! and what a payoff! Fab news!!! Good luck to you DH xxxx

Glitterybits · 26/01/2011 17:00

Oooh I'm a tad eye watery at all the lovely news here today and I hope the good luck is catching for everyone on this thread.

Sooo pleased for you and proud of you for going today Lady and Coconuts you sound to be very pregnant to me! I'm still sniggering at the comment about DTD only 3 times at ovulation, so it's impossible that you're pregnant. You do know it only takes the once to hit lucky, don't you? Being an equally OMW, I also peed on hpts and OPKs galore. I think we can safely say congrats are in order.

Oh, and a big celebratory hug for Mummy. Fantastic news. My smile is even bigger than it was yesterday.

More later when I get chance. Waves to the newbies and everyone else. X

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ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 26/01/2011 17:47

Hi everyone

mrsMcQ Hello, sorry you find youself here and sorry I cannot advise on the tests you should be getting but there will be so many ladies here who can help you. Make yourself comfy :)

mummy the cramps are making me knicker check every five minutes!! And yay!!! for your results!! The doctor sounds lovely and must have wrote immediately after looking :) Really fab news!

digi Yes of course I have POAS today. Two this morning. I've nearly ran out Blush Still positive and positive OPK. My head is still in the sand. Sorry to hear about your friend's coldheartedness. Some women just take getting pregnant and having babies for granted.

lady thanks. Looks like I am truly duffed-up! Great news on the scan :) and good luck to your DH re the job. The nothing to lose attitude is a good one to have :)

GLittery thanks. I know it only takes once, but I feel like I've been waiting so long for this and now it might actually happen I feel like I'm not ready IYKWIM. I am in denial and probably will be for a loooong time. Hope you are ok :)

lunatic Thanks, hope your link holds out for you soon :)