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Recurrent Buns - Miscarriage Testing and Beyond! Part three..!

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Julezboo · 23/11/2010 12:52

Not so imaginative as lunatic !

Part One HERE

Part Two HERE

There are a mixture of Pg ladies, new BFP's (YAY) and new ladies who have sadly had to join us and are going through testing. Lots of OMW's and hand holding here!

Sit down, grab a cushion and a hot choc and get comfortable.

OP posts:
hairyclaireyfairy · 24/01/2011 21:46

fingers crossed for tomorrow Glittery.
Ladybee, can completely understand your reasons for waiting for the scan and btw your childcarer sounds like a nut, if I took ds to the docs every time he had a cough i'd never be out of the surgery. Hassle always seems to happen when you feel least able to manage.
Julez, how is Oliver doing now?
Stillfrazzled, don't think I have congratulated you yet, hope your little feller is doing ok and getting bigger and bigger.
Lunatic, so pleased you have been admitted although not so on the behaviour of that midwive ! Hope you are coping xx
Mumatron how are you and Eliza, love love her name :)
Justmee, how are you doing?
Hairyfairylights, hope you are ok?
Sorry for not namechecking everyone but hoping you are all ok?

Scan last Fri went well :) 7+4 now , saw the big cheese at the hospital who was lovely. Also the recurrent m/c nurse does the scanning and is bloody fantastic. Back on the 4th Feb for another scan. Then it will start to get scary as all the losses have been between 9-11 weeks.
Feeling very sick all the time and dh is being brilliantly helpful staying home till ds has gone to school so he can take the wheelchair to the bus and just generally being lovely.
Off to bed now xx

hairyfairylights · 24/01/2011 21:47

ladybee sorry you're having a hard time. I feel the same as I'll (hopefully) be six weeks at scan, and I know they may or may not see a hearbeat but with me it's got to be done as I've had a suspected ectopic before.

MummyAbroad · 24/01/2011 21:48

for ladyB sounds like a lot of compelling reasons why a scan now would do more harm than good in terms of reassurance. If you dont have it, will you be able to spend the next two weeks NOT waiting to start bleeding? Will they give you a scan at 8 weeks or is it a case of "miss this one and then theres nothing till 12 weeks"? Are you sure you are 6+6? could you be a bit later?

Sorry I dont know why I think bombarding you with questions will help! I'll just stick to xxxxxxxxxxx

PS Sorry I forgot to put you on the list!! How could I forget!? Did I forget anyone else?Blush

MummyAbroad · 24/01/2011 22:08

Sorry for the OCD type list tidying, I dont know where to put my nervous energy at the moment, still no news from doctors

  STARTING TESTING

LAF77, Age 33, MC1 (7 weeks Apr 10) MC2 (5 weeks Sept 10) MC3 (9 weeks Dec 10). All have been natural mcs and number 1 and 3 were embryonic for sure. No children, no RMC appt, no diagnosis and not TTC.
PANDA 3MMC, no.1 (embryonic loss - empty sac) 7weeks, no.2 at 12 weeks, no.3 at 8 weeks. Awaiting raft of tests for recurrent MC
CLAIREDELOON Age 38 1st mmc, development stopped approx 5 weeks (2007), 2nd mmc development stopped at approx 6 weeks (2009), 3rd mc development stopped at 9 weeks after seeing hb at 8+3 (2010). Bicornate uterus, starting testing Feb 2011.
NOTSOBARRENBROOK Age 35. 1st mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2009), 2nd mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2010), 3rd mmc @ 11 weeks, development stopped at 6 weeks 3 days (March 2010), 4th mmc @ 5 weeks (August 2010). Possible adenomyosis, awaiting hsg and results of testing from St Mary's.

  UNDERGOING TREATMENT

CRYSTAL5 Age 38 - DS age 4. 6 m/c 1 at 11 weeks, 5 at 5/6 weeks. Ok blood tests, under Endocrinologist for Hypothyroid
BANANA87 Age 30- 1mmc@7 weeks, DD (2), 1 mmc 6 weeks, 1 mc 7 weeks, currently waiting one more cycle before TTC. Going to try aspirin and progesterone as per consultant. Clotting bloods normal.

  TTC

MUMMYABROAD Age 35, 1DS, 1MMC (14weeks) Ashermans diagnosis and treatment Nov 2010, Started TTC Jan 2011 Cycle 1
LOVELYBUNCHOFCOCONUTS Age 23, 1 MC (13 weeks), 1 MMC (10 weeks), 1DD born 2008, PCOS diagnosis, bi-cornuate uterus, currently TTC
DIGITALGIRL Age 32 - DS 2.4 - 3MCs since ttc#2. MC1 5wks. MC2 6-7wks. MC3 7-8wks. Awaiting clotting & karyotyping results, under consultant care for rmc. Mild pcos. Currently TTC.

  PREGNANT

LUNATIC dd1(4) 2 mmc (8 wks) dd2 stillborn (32+5), clotting problem, currently 32+1
GLITTERYBITS 1 anembryonic MC (12 weeks), unexplained infertility, 1 round of clomid, currently pg and terrified!
JUSTMEE Age 21, MC1 (7 weeks), MC2 (6weeks), MC3 (5weeks) currently pregnant with 4th pregnancy using clexane injecting 20mg a day
LADYBEE 37, MC1 (5wks), DS (2), MC2 blighted ovum discovered @ 8 wk scan, MC3 natural @ 9 wks following hb seen at 7 1/2 wk. PCOS previously diagnosed, Factor V Leiden heterozygote discovered in recent testing. Treatment with aspirin (from BFP) + clexane started at 6 weeks.
HAIRYFAIRYLIGHTS
HAIRYCLAREYFAIRY

  GRADUATES WITH BABIES!!

STILLFRAZZLED Age 35, DS1 (3.6yo), 1 mc @ 5 weeks Jan 09, 2nd mc @ 9 weeks March 09, DS2 born @ 35+3 on 04/01/11 with Intra Uterine Growth Restriction and currently in Special Care Baby Unit.
MUMATRON Age 28 2 dc then 4mc, 3 @9weeks 1@5weeks, tests showed possible free protein s ishoo. dd2 born 06/01/2011, aspirin, claxane and high dose folic acid through pg.
JULEZBOO Age 29 1 mc @ 14 wks, DS1 (8yo) 4 mc @ 5/6 wks, DS2 (3) 2 mc @7 wks... DS3 (14/01/11 @35 wks) Dx with Factor V Leiden and Septate Uterus. Clexane and Aspirin throughout pregnancy and progesterone with DS3.

notsobarrenmorebrokenbrook · 24/01/2011 22:11

bee massive squish from me, please don't feel under pressure to have a scan if you don't think it will help. Like MA says, can you have one at 8 weeks instead? What makes you think it's not good? Try and stay positive, nothing has happened to make you feel like this has it? Keep your chin up honey xxxx

LAF77 · 25/01/2011 10:47

Thinking of you glittery

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notsobarrenmorebrokenbrook · 25/01/2011 11:46
Glitterybits · 25/01/2011 14:45

Lovely ladies. Thank you so much for all your wonderfully supportive wishes and general loveliness. Sorry for the delay. I have been trying to calm the hell down. Spent a good deal of time throwing my guts up this morning beforehand, which I suspect was more down to anxiety than hormones.

I have a baby, with a heartbeat and organs and little toes. Oh, I'm crying again. Makes typing rather difficult. I have never, ever, ever been so relieved in my life and I'm going to revel in the throes of this for at least the next 24 hours before I start panicking again! Grin

Little baby is very naughty and refused to turn the right way, making the nuchal very difficult to do accurately and meaning we had a much longer scan. Obviously, I didn't complain. Get the results in a couple of weeks, but couldn't give a toss what they say quite frankly. Nuchal measurement was about 2.1mm and a nasal bone was present, so that's good enough for me.

The new measurements suggest I'm a week further on than I thought - every little helps! So, I've gone from being backdated by 4 days to an immaculate conception! So much for accuracy. 13 wks and 4 days today according to my giant little one.

Right, enough me, me, me. I'll do a spot of catch up reading and respond to you all properly.

Thanks again, so much for being there. I know it isn't easy for everyone, but you've all been so kind and I'm still not up for talking about it in RL. Coming here is like being hugged when I need it most, so thank you all.

Ladybee · 25/01/2011 14:56

Hooray!!!!!!!

Was getting v nervous - so so so pleased for you

Hooray!!!!!

Oh gosh think I might cry too Blush

digitalgirl · 25/01/2011 15:36

glittery so very very pleased for you!!!

hairyclaireyfairy · 25/01/2011 15:58

Awww that's brilliant Glittery, delighted for you!! xx

MummyAbroad · 25/01/2011 16:33

Fab news Glittery !!! I am made up for you Grin Grin Grin

notsobarrenmorebrokenbrook · 25/01/2011 16:44

Hurrah! glittery what awesome news, pleased as punch for you x

Glitterybits · 25/01/2011 16:53

Lady First of all, slightly Angry with your CM. It's a cough. Mind you, I do tend to fall into the 'relaxed approach to illness' camp of parenting! FWIW doctors much prefer us to those parents who are in the hospital with everything going. Grin Unless said cough is impacting on breathing, or he's coughing up lumps of green, infected gunk, I think he'll be just fine. You know your kids better than anyone. Your CM is allowed to advise, but what's with the judgement?

Re the scan, I'm with Lunatic on this one. You are well within your rights to request that the scan date be put back. You may find that they actually agree with you. It's common sense from their point of view in terms of not having to make follow-up appointments, but it also means you know the outcome straightaway and don't have to endure that horrible extra week or more of worry. I managed to request a later dating scan for myself this time around, because they went by my LMP. Given my wonky cycles, I knew this was a very dangerous idea in terms of retaining any sanity whatsoever and I told them that an earlier scan would be very bad indeed for my mental health! You must do whatever makes you feel comfortable, but I wouldn't give up on the scan completely. It may be a comfort further down the line. Oh, and thank you for your lovely message. Obviously, if I'd read your msg any earlier today, I'd be admitting that I nearly legged it out of the scanning room this morning when she told me to lie on the bed! Hope I didn't make you cry! Blush

Mummy Loving the OCD style frantic list making. On a more serious note, I hope you're coping. This is a horrible wait for you and I can completely understand why you're feeling down. I know the thin lining is a sign of regrowing scar tissue and I know you've had oodles of hormones to grow a nice, thick, comfy mattress, but I'm convinced that even the most resilient of bodies require a little time to mend and yours has had a lot of confusing things happen to it lately. Try to give yourself a break. In the same way that it will take time for your lining to thicken naturally, it will probably take time for scar tissue to come back, so try to hang onto the ledge and I'm sticking out a HTH for you to grab with your other hand until you get your results back. I have no doubt that they will have a plan if they find anything untoward, but I'm keeping everything crossed that they won't.

HFL When is your scan date? Hope you're doing okay.

HCL Fingers crossed for 4th Feb. I know the wait seems like an eternity and then you just start panicking about the next one. Glad DH is looking after you properly! Grin

Panda What a crappy time it's been for you, but I'm pleased that the physical bit is over for you now. FWIW I don't think it's remotely stupid to panic about losing too much blood. I was positively terrified during my mc and was on the verge of going to hospital at the point that I passed the sac and it suddenly got more bearable. Glad your Mum was there for you. The car park story made me have a little snivel on your behalf. We've all been there, or somewhere similar and I'm actually quite pleased that you just did what came naturally to you rather than bottling it all up. We shouldn't have to suppress such horrible grief. I'm sure that Mum will understand if/when you feel brave enough to explain it to her.

banana I think you've more than earned the right to avoid every pregnant woman or newborn going and it's not at all sad. Sometimes, we need to do whatever it takes to get through the day and if that means avoiding everyone for a while then so be it. I STILL don't want to see my pregnant friends. It's like they're in an exclusive club of which I feel like a total outsider.

yellow I'm a bit clueless about AMH? I'm probably just being dense, but what does it stand for?

digi I have literally everything clenched for a big fat BFP for you. xx

BB It is indeed a very busy thread these days! Hope you are okay and work isn't too manic. Thanks for your kind words yesterday. Much appreciated.

Big hugs to you Claire. 2 years of TTC was bad enough for me. I remember the mountain analogy all too well. Somehow you find reserves of strength you never knew you had, but there are often more bad days than good, especially when you're trying to be careful for what feel like all the wrong reasons.

Coconuts You are no more obsessive or mental than the rest of us. I think the touch typing idea is a good one. I threw myself into running and re-learning French. Neither came to much, but it was a channel that I could at least distract myself with when things got a bit much - which was most of the time!

Crystal I remember being where you are now and wishing someone would just hand over the Clomid already. I'm quite tempted to post you what I have left, but it's powerful stuff and, much as it pains me to say it, I strongly advise monitoring of a professional nature for the first month at least! If your progesterone test is fine but they think there may be something amiss with your cycle, you may well get Clomid, although they do seem to make you work for it if my experience is anything to go by! Thankfully, it tends to cure progesterone deficiency at the same time as stimulate the ovaries, so you're unlikely to need that on top. Good luck with it all.

Lunatic I thought it was bad when they put that I had a 46 day cycle on my notes - which has never happened in living history - but getting your abruption date wrong is a bit more on the remiss side. Have you got that sorted now? It does make sense as to why they made your admittance difficult, but doesn't justify their sloppiness. Yey for the happy accident of the scan and steriods though.

When I went in for my scan this morning they had no record of my first scan, but a note to say my pg had already been dated. I then had to recount the whole mc and infertility story again. It would be so much more helpful if these people would just sodding communicate and not rely on guesswork all the time. I'm glad you're there anyway. Means you can keep them on your toes!!! Hope you aren't too bored. I bet you're missing DD1 like mad, aren't you? You've done so well to hold it together so admirably. Don't waste your energy on grim mw. She's not worth it! Grin

justmee Yey for a hb! Grin

mumatron

Julez Hope your little chap is now gaining and the jaundice is improved?

frazzled I hope Finn is gaining strength and weight too?

LAF Sorry to hear about the hideous period and the prospect of having to smile and coo over other people's babies. Men just don't get this. My DH cannot grasp why I can't separate my own upset from other women's joy. Maybe it would be different if it was his brother or a close male friend who kept having kids while we were struggling. I don't know. I do know that life is too short to cope with things like this when you are battling with your own issues and sometimes I think it is easier not to face it than to force yourself into a corner whilst trying not to cry. People forget that those who've had babies are generally happy and are less likely to miss your absence than they are to forget you crying in a corner! You are entitled to put yourself first occasionally and graciously decline with an alternative engagement excuse. I think I'd tell my DH he was in charge of buying the present and card and to go without me if that's what he wanted to do, though I appreciate that it's not always that simple!

Waves and welcomes to Rainbow. Grin

Am sure I must have missed someone, so I'm really sorry if I have. Thanks again for all your brilliant support. Not sure where I'd be without you all. xxx

hairyfairylights · 25/01/2011 18:19

Hurray Glittery that's lovely, lovely news, I am Grin ing a lot!!!

justmee · 25/01/2011 18:26

yayyy glittery thts fantastic news :)))))

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 25/01/2011 20:40

Wow, this is certainly going to teach me for staying away for so long! I know I will miss someone out so I apologise!

Glittery That is fab news Grin Grin Hope you can revel in your good news for at least a few days before returning to the usual OMW status!

HFL Hope you are doing okay, day by day is agood plan.

justmee Hope you are doing okay, and bean is growing nicely. Hope the jabs are going okay too.

lunatic hope you aren't too bored and have lots of visitors keeping you company :)

ladybee hope you can work something out so you can have a few weeks not expecting the worst. I know it is hard and I'm sure I will eat my words at some point. If you will feel better not having a scan then by all means put it back a couple of weeks.

HCF Glad your scan went well too and not long to wait until the next one :)

panda Hope you are holding up (((hugs)))

Sorry if I've missed anyone.

Can I ask a question? With these cheap dippy sticks here, what are the chances of getting about 6 different false positives? Eeek! Please don't say anything remotely happy... I am crazy here!!

MummyAbroad · 25/01/2011 20:48

coconuts Can you clarify that last statement please!!! Did you get 6 positive HPT's????? (and if so, please can I whisper "congrats"?)

MummyAbroad · 25/01/2011 20:48

sorry that should be head not heard

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 25/01/2011 21:05

They cannot be positive. I only had sex three times around ovulation. I simply cannot be pregnant. I refuse to go and spend £13 on a CB for it to turn out negative.

The positives were clearly wrong.

Not 6, it was 7 Grin I miscalculated!! I have tested 3 times today, twice yesterday and twice the day before.

What should I do?

OMG that's so stupid a question. Erm..... Shock

banana87 · 25/01/2011 21:07

Ohhhhh Coconuts....I used these to find out I was preg with DD :) Fingers firmly crossed, how many DPO are you now?

Panda How are you?

Glittery SO chuffed for you!!!

HCF Pleased you got to see a little heartbeat :)

HairyFairy How are you feeling?

Lunatic How are you feeling?

Waves to anyone I missed.

I did not go on Saturday, I just couldn't face it. But then I found out today that only 1 of the girls is pregnant, and two were there that aren't (and aren't even TTC), which means 3 out of 6 of us aren't pregnant/just had a baby. Somehow this makes me feel better.

I am finally feeling like TTC again and just waiting to ov so I can get to TTC and SWI next cycle. I hope this is a good sign of good things to come.

MummyAbroad · 25/01/2011 21:09

WOW! I am hugely excited for you, as I dont buy the theory that the tests are wrong. However, YOU need to be reassured, so go an buy something, it doesnt have to be clearblue, if you are getting positives on these and you really are pregnant you will get them on any other test. Get the cheapest thing that is not the same brand just so you can get rid of the idea that you have a bad batch. Have you got any OPK's in the house? If so, wee on them! rationale = www.peeonastick.com/opkhpt.html

Then come back and wibble some more Grin

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 25/01/2011 21:11

14 dpo tomorrow.

It wasn't a dark line though. Really faint. Still a line right?

I convinced myself the first was an evaporation line, but surely not 6 more?

Glad you decided to stay home banana and not put yous=rself through any unnecessary upset. However, also pleased you find yourself in a much better place and ready to TTC again :)

mummy Don't you dare rearrange your list and move me lol!! [griin]

banana87 · 25/01/2011 21:15

A line is a line....get a digital coconuts!!!