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Recurrent Buns - Miscarriage Testing and Beyond! Part three..!

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Julezboo · 23/11/2010 12:52

Not so imaginative as lunatic !

Part One HERE

Part Two HERE

There are a mixture of Pg ladies, new BFP's (YAY) and new ladies who have sadly had to join us and are going through testing. Lots of OMW's and hand holding here!

Sit down, grab a cushion and a hot choc and get comfortable.

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Julezboo · 18/01/2011 10:49

Congrats to the both hairys :o Really happy for you!

Sorry, I am being a bit crap with personals lately.

frazzled how are you doing? How is Finn doing? Any talk of home yet? Please dont beat yourself up about DS1. DS2 had a major meltdown here yesterday and I just spent an hour with him at bedtime. He looks HUGE though since Oliver arrived lol!

lunatic I hope you are still sitting comfortably!

mumatron I saw your thread yesterday about MIL ishoos. I have some of my own too lol Mine has been to our house in months. 2 visits in 2 days and yesterday she suggested I leave the baby with her and go with DH to collect the two boys from school Shock DH set her straight though! Just keep saying no!

Glittery I hope you are doing okay? Is it your scan tomorrow?

waves to everyone I've missed!

Few worries here. Oliver is slightly Jaundice which seems to be getting worse. We got home Monday night and he isnt feeding properly. Bottle fed and we was waking him for feeds every two hours for him to take a few sucks and fall back asleep! He's a very sleepy baby.

MW came yesterday and told us to try and change his teats for a faster on and wake him 2-3 hourly and encourage him to take an ounce or so if we can.

They weighed him this morning and hes dropped from 7.3lbs to 6.5lbs. She wants to avoid sending us back in so we are to keep on with the waking up and feeding today and they will come back tomorrow to rview him!

It's hard to know what to do really. Matthew was really prem so was in hospital until feeding was stablished. Adam was term and was a greedy bugger and we had no problems!

Oliver is slightly prem, but a good weight anyway. It's all so confusing!

Im doing okay, afterpains are gone now and we are going to venture out today to drive the pram! Only to pick the boys up from school and get some more teats though then I will sit down again lunatic I promise!

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ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 18/01/2011 11:09

Hi all, big catch up time I think. It has been might busy.

Firstly, hairyfairy Massive congratulations to you. Or am I meant to be ignoring the news now. Grin Grin

mumatron No shame in being an OMW still. Hope baby is doing well :)

digi yay for your DH's results. Hopefully BFP is not far away for you :)

panda sorry this is happening eventhough it was expected. :(

LAF Hope you are looking after yourself

crystal Sorry you find yourself here but congratulations on your BFP Grin Sticky thoughts :)

lunatic I love those soppy teenager moments. They are few and far between when you get kids round your ankles and you need to make the most of them. Our get-together day is two days before my birthday so I get double presents in one week Grin a psychologist? Really? Biscuit And yes I do think you may need a few more bits and pieces than that Grin

brook Just ignore those "experts" and listen to mummy she is the tree of knowledge!! A hysterectomy is amassive procedure for a woman and these experts shouldn't be throwing that around as if it's nothingness.

mummy Hmm Confused at the conflicting opinions. My cervix has been squidgy and open for aboout 5 days now. Is it meant to be if I did ov on Wednesday like I think? Hope you get your BFP soon too. I really am going to be the only one left haha! And looking forward to the 2WW is crazy woman! It's killing me!

glittery hope you are ok my love.

lady are we ignoring yours too?! Grin

julez hope things are all lovely at home with your new bundle :)

justmee · 18/01/2011 11:09

hi all

Congratulations on the pregnancys hairys :) hope they all go well are any of you on treatment??

i went to doc yesturday he done a scan but coudlt see nothing again he said im only 4 weeks 6 days he said he saw something on there but cant be sure if it was the sac or not but on the plus side hes put me on injections and have to go back friday is that normal has anyone else had that im so scared it will happen again but im trying to stay possitive

xxxxxx

digitalgirl · 18/01/2011 16:09

justmee its still really early, is he doing internal scans? I had a scan around 4 and half weeks with DS (initially booked to investigate irregular cycles) - the sonographer saw something that she guessed was the pregnancy, but it was a very tiny blip. I had an internal scan (they tried an external scan but could find anything) around 5 and a half weeks after I'd started bleeding where they saw pg sac but couldn't see anything else worth measuring. Went back at 7+3 and saw proper bean and heartbeat. I know it must be so so worrying, but if the anxiety is becoming all-consuming perhaps try the other's method of sticking your head in the sand and pretending it's not really happening until you're a bit further on. I really hope that in a couple of weeks time you'll get that reassurance you so desperately need.

julez sorry to hear about the weight drop and jaundice. DS had similar and we did all those tricks to wake him and make him feed: tickling his feet, undressing him completely, bright lights. He was such a sleepy baby for the first three weeks, after that...not so good at sleeping.

lunatic glad to hear you're keeping yourself occupied on non dd visiting days!

panda Sad hope the methi-wotsit gets things going and you can start to move on.

barren when's your next appointment? Or can you call someone to talk about this over the phone? Seems a bit silly of them to send you a 'possible' diagnosis without any explanation.

congrats crystal - I've also been told there's no harm in taking low-dose aspirin (75mg). But have you been given a treatment plan for your condition? I'm afraid I don't know much about it but is the Hashimoto antibodies thing an auto-immune condition or a clotting disorder?

hairyfairy stop peeing on those sticks, they're so unreliable. Can you get the EPU to check your HCG levels like they did last time?

mummyabroad when in doubt, TTC!

coconuts I found it took a whole cycle of checking my cervix to know the difference to how it felt before ov, during ov and after ov. I also set my alarm to take my temp then go back to sleep - as I tend to wake up at different times depending on the day. Not that this cycle is a particularly good example but here's my chart on FF, it still thinks I ovulated on CD12, but hopefully it'll change it's mind to CD20 after a few days of higher temps (fingers crossed).

Me, I'm just back from acupuncture. I told him about DH's results, he said that actually DH's results were all below borderline for minimal levels and that if any of the top urologists or male-factor fertility specialists had seen those results they would consider DH subfertile and would most likely recommend IVF with ICSI. Hmm But then in the same breath said that the fact that I'd got pregnant within 3-4 cycles each time showed up how crude Semen Analysis is in trying to diagnose male fertility.

Anyway, regardless of all that bollocks (pardon the pun) I think I may have actually ovulated properly yesterday (although I didn't 'feel' it like I used to pre-mc). But have to wait a few days and see what my temp chart does. DH and I have also been SWI-ing aplenty since the weekend so the cards have been dealt, the dice has been rolled, the balls are in motion etc Grin

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 18/01/2011 16:49

julez Xposts earlier and only just seen your post. Sorry to hear about the jaundice and weight loss. I hope it improves without needing to go back into hospital.

digi thanks for sharing your chart :) Yes I think I might set my alarm but the problem I have is that I sort of stir when DH gets up for work at 5:30 does that count as being awake? I always go back to sleep and DH doesn't work everyday so I can't think of a time where I'm always just awake with 3 hours or more sleep apart from 5:30. For example, this morning DH got up and kissed me I rolled over and still class myself as asleep, woke up when DD coughed at 7am but fell back to sleep immediately then did my temp when I woke properly at 8:20. That's all wrong isn't it?! I can't even take my temperature properly Angry

Loving your bollocks/balls jokes. You have put a smile on my face for the first time today.

Having a shite day today. Feel like a failure that I'm not pregnant yet. Even had a little argument with myself about whether I even want another baby. I'm so confused about things. I'm just trying to pretend this whole thing isn't even happening, but it's hard to ignore it when constantly dipping sticks in pots of my own pee, feeling up my own fanjo and taking temperatures at silly hours of the morning. I feel like I'm starting to resent having sex because I am always so tired and afterwards I beat myself up because I know it won't have got me pregnant. Four people have asked me in the last week when we're having another and I just want to scream.

Angry Angry Sad

LunaticFringe · 18/01/2011 17:15

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ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 18/01/2011 17:29

lunatic I am also a lunatic then. I tested last night at 7pm with a cheapy dipstick at 5dpo. Hmm I have oodles of the things though. Glad you can get some bits together. An excuse for online shopping i would say Wink And yes why do people think it is a good question to ask. It's one of the crappiest questions. Calm and breath - that's what I need to do. AAARRRGGGHHH!!!

That's better.

I like your analogy. The logic defies me sometimes. At least you are in the right place now though. How many weeks are you now? Are they just literally keeping you where they can see you until you go into labour naturally? Or planned Csection? Sorry if you've said this before to someone else, my mind is mush lately.

hairyfairylights · 18/01/2011 17:40

Panda glad the bleeding has stopped - think I've missed some of what's happening - what tablets do you have to have?

Julez hope Oliver perks up soon.

Coco hang in there honey. It's everso hard, isn't it? :(

justmee you are probably way to early to see anything on a scan, my five week scan showed a pregnancy sac, that was all. At seven there was a fetus and a heartbeat!

Lunatic If I'd held on past 4.30 I'd have wee'd the bed Grin

Saw consultant and upshot is

1 take 75mg aspirin per day from now

if things progress:

  1. Have HGC and progesterone test next Weds
  2. Have early scan at six weeks (4th Feb)

if problems, then go straight to EPU.

  1. Have not been tested for sticky blood, just lupus
  2. erpc failed because he took 'false passage' (had to ask him to clarify as I'm sure I'd have noticed afterwards if he'd gone up the wrong passage with a suction machine!). Likely they only skimmed the lining of the womb
  3. if I MC again, I will get full gammit of recurrent miscarriage tests.
  4. day 21 test showed I ovulated and had progesterone of 48, which is very healthy . No shit sherlock!!
stillfrazzled · 18/01/2011 18:59

Eeek, this is going to be a novel!

Lunatic, Good (if completely chilling) analogy. Combative but calm is way to go, I reckon. Or just bite anyone who tries to patronise you...

LadyBee, think it's natural not to want to talk about it. As you say, it's not that you're trying to pretend it's not happening, just trying not to tempt fate. Not mad, pretty normal if we're all anything to go by.

digital no idea what your cycle's doing to you, but hope that either way it's something constructive to build on for future cycles if it's not a BFP (and obv am FX for that). Glad DH's results were favourable, too.

Julez Gorgeous boy, gorgeous name and hope you're feeling even better now. Can understand your concern about his weight and feeding, could they pop him under a sun lamp at hosp on an outpatient basis? Finn had a few goes in the incubator and it sorted things really quickly.

HFC Fabulous news, so glad to see you again in such great circs! Will be hoping for a happy scan for you.

Coconuts Don't beat yourself up for not conceiving (although feel free to do same to people who ask you such dumb questions). FWIW I now favour brutal honesty: "We're trying but have had x number of mcs this year so we don't know if it's going to be possible." I like to think I left a couple of people less likely to ask that particular question ever again.

Mumatron glad all going well. MIL issues? Dish dish dish!

Panda I'm so, so sorry. And I could shoot your boss, really admire you for laughing rather than bawling him out or murdering him.

LAF77 Glad to see you. Are you doing OK? I have been thinking of you.

Crystal5 I don't know much about the testing side, but have a friend who mc'd 5 times at the exact same stage, but managed to carry her lovely DS to term after starting on low dose aspirin. May well be a different issue but hope the same is true for you.

brook HSG? Sympathy. But seems to have done the trick for Glittery and sorted out MummyAbroad, so let's hope it does the same for you!

hairyfairy Brillant news! So pleased for you. Good going on the three BFPs, you're obv very fertile. Is only the first step, I know, but a v important one...

banana, total Shock at your boss, bloody beeyatch. Don't blame you for quitting.

MummyAbroad go go go! Although - enjoying the 2WW? Say that again in 14 days... Grin

Glittery really hoping things are OK with you.

Right, now for update.

Finn is now out of High Dependency and into the nursery, so no more wires and he's wearing clothes and in a cot, not an incubator. Am trying to bf twice a day with a view to getting him feeding fully when he comes home.

So far, so brilliant - but he's lost 10g over three days, instead of gaining. No-one seems super concerned, and he's getting a fortifier in his milk, but am a bit shaken that once again I appear not to be giving him what he needs - and rather down because he's not going to be able to come home until he's gaining, and sustaining, weight.

He's a gorgeous, alert little boy though. And DS1 is being fab, seems much happier and more settled these last couple of days.

Will try to post more tomorrow because this thread is so busy it's the only way I'll be able to keep up!

LAF77 · 18/01/2011 20:46

it is hard to keep up with everything that is going on here!

congratulations to fairy and clairey banana on your pgs and to julez on the birth of oliver.

do you have an estimated time when finn could come home frazzled ? I can imagine that leaving him in hospital was so hard. If it makes you feel any better, I was born 2 months early almost 34 years ago and I'm a fighter and I'm here.

hope you are OK glittery and justmee.

Waves to clare digital and brook and mummy

Panda I really feel for you, waiting for the mc to happen. That is what tore me up the most, knowing that my baby was dying or dead and had to come out. It is good that your husband is a paramedic so you have good support.

coconuts i get what your feeling too. I had a moment today when I was making a cup of tea and I was thinking, did all of these mcs really happen to me and just felt like I was letting go of the idea of ever having a family, that I had to be prepared to accept that this might be my lot. I'll be strong for you because it is easier than being strong for me. We can't give up hope because it is the only thing we have. There are days when hope has gone missing, but hopefully, it will come back.

I noticed some spotting today, day 20 post MC, I suppose my hormones are out of whack and it will get back to normal. It was like this after the first mc with spotting between cycles, so I would expect the same this time as I was pg 2 weeks longer than the first one.

I have really struggled at work over the last few weeks to focus on the tasks at hand as they were a stretch for me in the first place and to deal with it on top of all of the emotional turmoil has been hard to put into the mix, I have wanted to go AWOL. Today, I felt like I could focus and get on with what I needed to do, like I could forget about it all. I have no power or control over what happens next. I have done what I can and I am letting go. I don't know what is wrong, I don't have a time frame when I will see a specialist, I don't if they can help me, I don't know if I will ever be able to carry a pg to full term. I don't know and I can't control it, so I have to be able to let go to get through the day.

Waves to anyone I've missed

Crystal5 · 19/01/2011 07:55

hairys Big Congratulations xx

I just got a BFN? Hmmmm.... AF due in 6 days so that BFP 2 days ago was a FAKE!!
Just ordered some pregnancy tests from ebay. As for the sore b88bs.....ouch.....

I'm in a rush this morning but wanted to pop on and say Good Morning and Have a lovely day xx

digitalgirl · 19/01/2011 11:00

Sorry going to be selfish, not namecheck and just post a rant...

Temp nosedived this morning when I was hoping it would go up so I could settle into the 2ww. Even tried to cheat and take it twice but still much lower than yesterday. I am officially aaaaaaaaaargh! I have NO FUCKING IDEA where the hell I am in my cycle, I had a mini-rant at DH. He suggested I stop temping. I said that not knowing when AF was due was more stressful.
I'm taking my temp for these reasons:

  1. I want to know when AF is due so that I don't keep taking pregnancy tests only to get bfn after bfn when I haven't even ovulated yet.
  2. On the off chance I do get a bfp I want to know exactly when I've ovulated so that when I go for my '7 week' scan I know that I'm only 6 weeks pg and won't freak out when I come up small for dates according to LMP.
  3. I want to test the day AF is late so if it is a BFP I can start on the aspirin and know that I did EVERYTHING I could if I MC again.

But it's such a fucking struggle. It really is. Irregular cycles, fertile signs not corresponding temperatures, SWI-ing everyday I think I'm fertile then finding out I'm not. Getting a BFP is such hard work for DH and I but we go through the motions because we desperately want this. And even then there are no guarantees. In fact it feels like we're more likely to mc than not, so we're just hoping the odds give us a break for ONCE.

Had acupuncture yesterday and did a yoga class in the evening. Despite being FUCKING relaxed my body refuses to play ball.

I'm really really really really fed up of it all. I hate having irregular cycles. I hate being a recurrent miscarrier. I hate my body.

AND AND AND I had row with a woman on the tube today for shoving me when she was sat down and I was doing my best not to get in anybody's way. Angry Sad

And breath....

mumatron · 19/01/2011 11:17

digital and thats the reason i only temp'd for 1 month! it just asn't for me, but i had regular cycles and was always pretty obvios when i ov'd. hope you get that bfp very soon.

i'm on my ipad and it wont let me scroll up so will have to catch up more later.

frazzled mil thread in aibu 'to not let mil take baby out' is the ishoo. bloody woman has turned loopy!

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 19/01/2011 11:21

Morning all,

hairyfairy glad you have a thorough plan of action put into place :)

frazzled I find it really hard to give such a frank response like that. I am very secretive in RL about these things. I don't want everyone knowing my business. I tend to just do a nervous laugh and say "ooh not yet" then I'll collapse in a corner in private. I wish I was stronger.

Fab new about Finn being out of high dependency. And great news that DS1 is coming round to the idea of being a big brother :)

LAF thanks for your kind words. I too find it easier to be strong for other people. I cannot be strong for myself. You last paragraph really struck a chord with me. It is the lack of control I find hard to deal with. The PCOS has taken over my body and my life. It is something I have suffered from all my life and never known about and now I know I wish I didn't. I cannot control my cycles, I have no idea what they are doing, I know nothing about my body, I have no idea if I will get treatment at my next appointment.

"I don't if they can help me, I don't know if I will ever be able to carry a pg to full term. I don't know and I can't control it, so I have to be able to let go to get through the day." I don't know how to do that.

crystal are you using the cheapy dipsticks?

digi feel free to rant away. Sorry for your shitty morning. I know exactly how you feel, I really do. Hugs to you xxx

Hoping glittery is ok.

Glitterybits · 19/01/2011 12:28

Just a very quick, very selfish post to say I am okay, although quite, quite mad and teetering on the brink. Will be back to update properly as soon as I make a bit more sense. Thanks for all the lovely wishes. X

Crystal5 · 19/01/2011 14:56

digitalgirl I feel your pain, I really do. I think sounding off here as you did has probably got a few things off your chest. I bet you were tapping away super fast. I'm not going to say "keep your chin up" as clearly it's not that easy. Silly cow on the tube!! Shouldve shoved her back. xx

alovelybunchofcocnuts Yes, ebay cheapos and my last remaining first response. What are your thoughts in the cheapos?

Temping sounds hard work and not something I have done properly. If someone can point me in the right direction.

TMI but I'm now CD 19/26 and have some cramps and a really like off white discharge, quite clumpy if I haven't been for a while....omg thats gross!! Sorry!! Maybe its a sign? After 6 m/c I should know the pg symptoms really xxx

Panda222 · 19/01/2011 14:58

Hello there, just thought I'd check in for my daily fix - I couldn't survive without it now Smile.

So I took the Mifepristone yesterday (basically its the abortion pill but I don't like to call it that for obvious reasons). The midwives call it "medical management" of mc but that sounds so clinical. Anyhoo upshot is bleeding has started again - a bit more this time - and I feel hideously sick and have done since about 3pm yesterday. If there is no sign of the sac by Friday morning I'll be in the EPU ward for some pessaries that will make contractions start and hopefully it will all come out so I can get on with my life, get the tests done.

Laf massive hugs to you and coconuts I am also having very similar feelings and questioning do I really want to risk going through all of this again? I've been trying to work from home whilst all of this is going on and all I end up doing is obsessing about the probable cause and reading medical studies on the net about the relationship between how close you are to menopuse and the effect this has on frequency of chromosomal abnormalities in each pregnancy (my current hypothesis about the cause of my recurrents) it'll probably change tomorrow when I read something else! Biscuit

I'm also trying to persuade my consultant by text (he will regret giving me his mobile number Wink) that we need to check the embryo for chromosomal abnormalities - sorry if this sounds a bit mental but I just have to know. I can't rest until I know.

digital that is so rubbish and I'm so sorry about the irregular cycles. Apologies if I'm telling you how to suck eggs but have you tried the ovulation test sticks? My cycle went a bit lala after previous mc so I did them every day at about 11am until I eventually detected the LH surge. It was rather expensive but I was so desperate for BFP that I would have paid hundreds of pounds to know. Sorry if you've already posted that this won't work - I feel for you and wish I could help.

Crystal5 · 19/01/2011 14:58

What a muppet-with my 3yr old on my lap that was bad diction and typos!! I meant when I haven't had a wee for a while I get thick discharge. :-/

Crystal5 · 19/01/2011 15:05

panda The mm pill can make you feel sick.
Hoping you pass the sac soon, before Friday would be nice....well, not nice but better than EPU I guess? Sending you a virtual hot water bottle and a large hot chocolate with cream and marshmallows xx....and wishing you back to normal soon xx

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MummyAbroad · 19/01/2011 17:59

hello Smile

Lunatic Its lovely to hear your news, you sound quite upbeat, its fab that you have actually found a collection of supportive midwives (and the one who is a bit Hmm is being told off by them!) Love the puddle jumping image Grin I am up for a list BTW, there are a lot of us now!

Hairy my turn to wince. I have read about "false openings" (I am assuming that is the same as "false passage") and it doesnt sound pretty. Good news that they have a plan for you and are willing to do lots of early reassurance stuff.

NotsoBB So glad no one is advising a hysterectomy! Any idea when your HSG is?

stillfrazzled How is it all going at the nursery? Do you get to spend more time with him now he is out of High Dependancy? Hope that weight comes up soon, bet you will be glad to have him home

coconuts so sorry about your rough day. Hope you are feeling better today.

digi I am with you on the temp taking, I would rather know what there is to know than not. Anyone who suggests that I stop because it stresses me out usually gets their heads bitten off (which rather proves their point Blush but I'm not about to change) I think while you are doing it, it is very hard not to let your mood depend on the results you see, but at the end of the cycle it is very valuable information and worth the trauma. Hope you get your rise tomorrow.

glittery Hello! Glad you are OK. xxx

where's ladyB??? Hope you are alright lovely.

Panda sorry if this is not what you want to hear (and verify it, because I could be wrong) but I was advised that with medical management (which I had) you cant do testing on the embryo. Apparently the "tissues" need to be analysed almost immediately, you cant even store them in formaldehyde (sp?) for transportation because this destroys them. Hope the mc is over soon.

LAF I really feel for you because I have been there in that "I dont know if or when I will be fixed" stage. Its horrible. You may have a long road ahead of you, but you ARE pointed in the right direction now. I hope that time frame materialises soon.

Crystal oh gosh if that was me I would be retesting pretty much every hour. Could it have been a dodgey test? I am all for cheapies, but have found that some are better than others. Generally the wider the strip the better the quality.

have I missed someone? Where is that list?Grin

Over here in AbroadLand, summer has arrived in full force and I am "spring" cleaning.
DH is being very enthusiastic about the TTC which is great must row with him more often and I am still pursuing the "is it safe to TTC" tests anyway. More info the better I think.
I have sent my HSG films off to the expert in the states should here back in 4/5 days and am getting scanned tomorrow to check lining, but also has the added advantage of alerting me to ov status as I am mid cycle now Grin
Prepare yourselves for more and more frequent posting from me as I get into the 2WW and OMW behaviour emerges Grin

MummyAbroad · 19/01/2011 19:23

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MummyAbroad - 1MMC (14weeks) Ashermans diagnosis, currently TTC

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 19/01/2011 20:58

Hi everybody :)

glittery So good to hear from you. Quite mad is okay you know. Come back when you are ready.

crystal I use these ovulation tests and these pregnancy tests. The ovulation tests are good in that they are easy to use and I think they work, although with PCOS they can give a false positive. In a 'normal' woman I guess they will work fabulously. The pregnancy tests haven't given me a BFP yet but that isn't their fault Grin They are pretty good value for money and I got a load free when I ordered my BBT so I have a huge stash. I hope a stranger doesn't go in my bathroom cabinet Blush Grin

panda hoping things move quite quickly for you Sad Be kind to yourself xxx

lunatic 9th Feb really isn't far away :) You sound like you are quite happy where you are and have a good support from the MWs. I'm definitely up for a list. It is very busy here now.

mummy Feeling much better today thanks :) I find it amazing that it is summer somewhere else when it is still so cold here. You really are amazing doing all your spring cleaning at the same time as TTC and chasing up tests and results and calling America and London. Mummy to the rescue - we should get you a theme tune!

justmee Hope you're okay after todays panic :) any more info on the Clexane?

We viewed the second house in our property search today. It was a no-no but better than the first one we looked at. I am trying to focus on that at the moment, constantly checking RightMove for updates in my area!

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 19/01/2011 21:00

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MummyAbroad - 1MMC (14weeks) Ashermans diagnosis, currently TTC

Coconuts - 1 MC (13 weeks), 1 MMC (10 weeks), PCOS diagnosis, currently TTC

Glitterybits · 19/01/2011 21:45

Right, have no idea where to start. Think Lunatic's idea about several threads might actually be a good idea. There are so many of us now and it's becoming a rather tangled web. Don't think it's possible to do justice to everyone, even in a daily post, but here goes...

Julez He is just beautiful. What a gorgeous, gorgeous little man. Hope the jaundice has calmed down a bit now. My DS was a sleepy little chap too.

banana I couldn't help but smile at your wish that the next 4 weeks go by slowly. This whole process is a mess of wishing your life away and willing it to slow down at the same time. I don't think either of those feelings are abnormal. We just have to roll with them because there's nothing else we can do. Shock at your ex-boss! They do say that what goes around comes around. I'm sorry to hear what happened to her, but that is no excuse for her hideous treatment of you.

Lady How are you holding up?

Panda Utter Shock at your boss too! Being someone who dreads hitting the send button unless I'm absolutely sure my message won't be misconstrued, this made me cringe. I think you've done so well to handle this with humour. I'd have been tempted to write back and ask if it was intended to be desperately insensitive. I agree that his wife probably sailed through pregnancy. Possibly a good thing that people who can be so oblivious remain that way and leave the rest of us OMW to it!

HCF Congratulations! Excellent news, if rather nervewracking. The very best of luck to you for Friday. At least you have a plan this time around, but GRRRRRRR that it's taken so bloody long to get there.

HFL Congrats to you too! This is becoming a rather hopeful thread compared to the pit of despair it was at the outset!

digi Great news about the unremarkable sperm test - on the mc front anyway. I really empathise with the whole temping thing. It's a bloody nightmare and leaves you ridiculously high one minute and desperately depressed the next. Like you, I couldn't bring myself to stop but, have to say, even on the cycle that I conceived, my temps didn't behave as I expected them to. Also, my hormones were so squiffy that my temp often went up before a period, which left me even more inconsolable on cd1 because I wasn't prepared. In the whole time that I did it, I can honestly say, now, that I don't think I ever had a month that I classed as doing what it was supposed to. I was by no means an angel in terms of following rules. I occasionally drank too much (for the sake of my sanity) and stayed up late at night, so perhaps it was down to a lack of consistency on my part sometimes, but not all the time. Having said that, I only technically worked for one cycle when I took the clomid. I do wonder how a cycle would look now if I am to assume that I am fixed after this pregnancy. Of course, I might not be and may never know as I'm not sure I could do this again...it's just a complete nightmare and you have my every sympathy. Rant away.

BB Hmmmm so you may have this hideous endometriosis, or you might not, but the only way to check is to remove all your womanly parts??? Confused This doesn't sound altogether helpful to me! Do they have a contingency plan for those who are TTC? Surely there must be a form of treatment in place for this problem? Ah, have just read your next post! This thread moves far too quickly. Both myself and Mummy have endured a HSG, so shout if you have any questions.

Coconuts I never really got on with cervix checking either. The only surefire thing which told me that I was actually or near to ovulating was that sex was often uncomfortable if my cervix was knocked by accident. Talk about a kick in the teeth in terms of timing!!! Grin Found myself giggling at the stranger in your bathroom cabinet analogy. I've regularly thought the same and found myself doing a spot of creative hiding when people come round in case they decide to have a nosy about. You can tell a lot - a little too much - about a person's physical health as well as mental lack of it from their bathroom cabinet! Grin

LAF I know it probably doesn't seem like it most of the time to you, but I think you are so very, very brave and grounded about everything that has happened. I really admire the way you are coping and dealing with your feelings with such honesty. Whilst this doesn't help at all, as nothing will, I hope you continue to talk to us here. If nothing else, it does help to get your feelings out, I think.

Crystal I'd be weeing all over everything in case it changed colour/ gave me a line in your position! I also got a negative test the day after my much awaited BFP and it turned out to be a dodgy test.

justmee How are you doing?

mumatron Hope your little scrumptious pot is being good for her Mummy.

Mummy Hope you've recovered and fingers crossed for clean as a whistle results. We're here to hold your hand through the 2ww.

frazzled It sounds as though Finn is doing so well and it's excellent that he's out of High dependency. Try to remember that they ALL lose weight in the early days, regardless of how/ when they popped out. I'm sure you are giving him what he needs. It will just take him a little while longer to have gained enough strength to come home. In the meantime, pat yourself on the back for being a supermummy!

Lunatic Had a little sniffle at the cmw coming to find you to give you a hug. I think I would have bawled just to be understood by someone who didn't think I was nuts! I cannot tell you how utterly relieved I am that the views of this one psychological problem pushing mw are being swept under the carpet. You don't need people like that, who have no idea how to handle anything other than the perfect, ideal pregnancy. Some of us require a little more understanding and those who try to steer you towards natural births and counselling sessions are the ones who should be getting their own heads checked, or maybe reconsidering their line of work! You have a plan. You just need people to stop pushing obstacles in your way now.

Is that everyone? I bet I've missed people. I'm sorry if I have.

Soooo, thanks all for your advice about the scan. Have to say that I wholeheartedly agreed with all of you, until I realised that I was within dates for the nuchal and I realised that they'd want to do that at the same time, if all seemed well. Given that DH was away, I decided to risk leaving it alone until my actual scan date. Hideous decision to make, but we are determined to have at least one successful 12 week scan, which hasn't yet happened in 3 pregnancies. DH is understandably as concerned as I am. Not only does he need to see a baby as much as I do, I also need him to be with me.

So, the spotting carried on - on and off - for about 3 days. Not exactly helpful, but I'm not desperately assuming the worst just yet. I just have to get through the next few days before the nuchal on Tuesday. In the meantime, I've been and will continue to be a madwoman.

On the upside (if I care to slip out of denial for long enough to see it) I've been living in baggy jeans forever, so it came as quite a shock when we had to dress smartly for a family do at the weekend and I discovered that none of my smart trousers/ skirts fit. The real irony here is that I've gone from desperately wanting to be pregnant and not wanting to jinx it, to hiding it from everyone. Most normal people would recognise their ever increasing size as a positive sign. Not me. I tried on everything and the only remotely comfy non-maternity items made me look about 5 months pregnant. Is it just me, or does this seem a bit too soon to be moving into maternity wear? I suppose I was fairly big fairly early with DS and this is the 3rd pg, but I feel enormous already.

I'm now too scared to leave the house for anything until we've had a scan and I'm allowed to breathe out again. OMW? Me? I'm 12 weeks tomorrow, so I'm frantically knicker-checking every 5 seconds in the assumption that it's all bound to go wrong tonight. Seriously need to get some sort of grip on reality here! Grin