Hrt linked to dementia

[Ninaguineapig]

I thought it was supposed to prevent it.

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/06/28/health/hrt-dementia-risk-wellness/index.html

I am my own primary source on my GP

My young, lovely, female, recently trained GP told me she had no knowledge of menopause and HRT. In fact she suggested I take anti depressants but I told her I wasn’t depressed! She went off, did some research and came back to me. I was amazed. She has now set up a yearly review clinic for all ladies who take it. The nurse running the clinic told me she never took HRT as she had been afraid to. She told me she wished she had been better informed as all the ladies she had reviewed were very positive about their experience. I think this may be why the demand for the private Menopause clinic is so high. It isn’t just marketing.
sorry to derail the thread. I am concerned about the dementia link . I thought I might get more relevant info on here but as always these threads are very aggressive.

@ReleasetheCrackHen

Sigh.

To repeat, given I was on HRT almost six years before Davina's documentary, I am relating MY experience of inept and clueless GPs - I saw seven of them, and not one had any decent training or knowledge of perimenopause and menopause, many couldn't even decipher female hormone blood tests properly. Some twenty five years before this, my mother had had similar issues too and ended up taking herself to see Professor John Studd (who is internationally recognised as one of the world's most authoritative and experienced gynaecologists and menopause specialists).

It's not just me or my mother either. Many of the women I know have had similar experiences, and again, all of this is many years pre-Davina.

And btw, am not someone who sees or has used Dr Newson's services either.

Anyway, no point for either of us to continuing conversing as we are clearly on very different sides of this, and while I will be happy to agree to disagree, I suspect you will not.

Keep in mind the more women who seek HRT as a result of her broadcast, the more her career and celebrity status grows along with her income.

Seriously??

A thread set up to discredit HRT @Ninaguineapig

The Davina Conspiracy

Posters saying they are not able to discuss their experiences not taking HRT

HRT Wars all round

Why? As I said previously first visit to any Menopause thread. Probably the last. Why is it like this?
Genuinely why do people care so much about others choice with something optional?

Im not on any “side”. HRT is healthcare and as far as I am concerned a good invention for some women where the benefits outweigh the risk.

I am pointing out real financial conflicts of interest that women need to be aware of when taking advice from or watching documentaries from certain sources. This is not to say anyone has bad intentions or is deliberately monetising menopause or there is a “Davina conspiracy” as another poster thinks I am saying.

The disclosure of financial conflicts of interest is required for all researchers submitting their research reports. For all MPs who vote on laws that would benefit them financially if they voted a certain way.

This is a basic ethical principle- that a person who will financially or otherwise benefit from a certain outcome is at high risk of conscious and/or unconscious bias towards the outcome that benefits them personally.

The facts are that Davina McCall, Kate Muir and Dr Newson all benefit financially the more women seek HRT. Thus far, they have benefitted spectacularly due to the surge in women taking up HRT as a result of their media. Yes, they highly recommend HRT but how much of their recommendations are objective and impartial? Are truly evidence based? What about the concerns regarding these private menopause clinics, including Dr Newson’s, not following prescribing guidelines and risking the health of women by convincing them to take HRT dosages they do not need and could harm them?

So generally, a wise person will be aware of this high risk of bias, and will view their media and recommendations with a more critical eye.

Unlike scientific research, there is no peer review or disclosure of financial conflicts of interest for the documentaries Davina broadcast or the self help book Menopausing that she co-authored with another Dr who also owns and runs a private menopause clinic Dr Potter. Or any of their podcasts, apps, and TV cameos. I would have preferred her co-author were a Menopause specialist with no financial conflict of interest. I would have preferred some sort of peer review of the book before publication. But it is what it is and history has shown that such self help books marketed as scientific, medical literature for the public tend to not be very accurate and fraught with bias- even when the authors have the best of intentions.

Keep in mind the more women who seek HRT as a result of her broadcast, the more her career and celebrity status grows along with her income.

Well don't post heavily suggestive things like this. 🤣

Davina is only one of a stream of celebrities who have thrown light onto their own personal cause celebres. Menopause was hers. She would have gotten paid for doing the TV regardless of the subject.

The show hit a nerve because Menopause guidance has notoriously been so shit basically and so out of reach for many women.

Your statement implies something so much more insidious and calculated.

I totally understand the implications of financial transparency but I think your statement is very loaded.

Seems to me women are stuck between a landscape of nothing - like my mother and her cohort and then suddenly all this Menopause Media that can possibly offer a solution to women who feel like they have lost themselves. It is offering solutions to people who feel like there aren't any.

If the area needs more critical assessment, regulation, investigation etc etc the government needs to get of its arse and do something. Eduction all round would be a start.

Once again women are the vulnerable piggy in the middle.

That was not my intent and I feel you are taking that one sentence out of the context surrounding it regarding financial conflicts of interest creating both conscious and unconscious bias.

I agree. You summarised the state of affairs quite nicely.

I think hrt should be only offered on private prescription. It's a luxury product and one is perfectly able to cope without it.

Finally, the real agenda is laid bare.

It would seem so @AutumnCrow

Oh dear.

I think the opposite really. I am concerned the private menopause clinics are preying on vulnerable women who are seeking essential healthcare- and we’ve seen it is a billion £ industry with one clinic alone now pulling in over a £1m a month.

The private clinics seem to be staffed by GPs who have taken a few online courses and now are larping as consultant endocrinologists. There have been concerning reports regarding private clinics not following dosage guidelines and providing little to no follow up care.

Women are desperate and paying £250 per appointment for healthcare that should be free and be given by qualified consultant doctors. Even if the clinics were doing a fantastic job, I still object in principle that women are being forced to go private when their taxes have paid for an NHS. We already earn less than men, and now we are being forced to go private for basic healthcare.

It is my opinion that HRT should only be available on the NHS. HRT is not a luxury item.

Agree completely @ReleasetheCrackHen

I don't think tax payers should pay for this luxury totally useless product.

Totally useless? I think you're just being inflammatory now.

I don't think tax payers should pay for this luxury totally useless product.

I thought you'd gone awfully quiet. Gut instincts were true.

Women are desperate and paying £250 per appointment for healthcare that should be free and be given by qualified consultant doctors. Even if the clinics were doing a fantastic job, I still object in principle that women are being forced to go private when their taxes have paid for an NHS. We already earn less than men, and now we are being forced to go private for basic healthcare.

Yes

Bot or raving loony?

Neither I don't think😁

@AutumnCrow Nice to meet you too

I have been thinking of starting a petition not to offer hrt on NHS.

Crack on. @Ninaguineapig

Can I ask what makes you so annoyed with others taking HRT?